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	<title>Comments on: mmm, parabolic.</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:29:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>mmm, parabolic.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.e-tutor.com/et2/graphing"&gt;AJAX graphing calculator with a google-earth style interface.&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:22:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>delmoi</dc:creator>		<category>calculator</category>
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		<title>By: lupus_yonderboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1348921</link>	
		<description>um, perhaps it&apos;s just me.

but a *server side* graphing calculator seems the height of stupidity!  You, the user, have a general purpose computer that can perform hundreds of millions of calculations a second -- why not use that rather than forcing hundreds, thousands or millions of users to share the same central computer.

(Specifically, the site is monster slow for me...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:29:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lupus_yonderboy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1348936</link>	
		<description>I put in x^15 and I think I broke it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:47:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>smackfu</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1348954</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;but a *server side* graphing calculator seems the height of stupidity! You, the user, have a general purpose computer that can perform hundreds of millions of calculations a second&lt;/i&gt;

It doesn&apos;t seem to slow for me. I just thought it was interesting. Although yes, quite redundant. Most of this &quot;Web 2.0&quot; ajax stuff is horribly redundant and foolish, and amounts to basically hacking HTML to do basic interactive interfaces that computers have been able to do for decades.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:15:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>delmoi</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1348955</link>	
		<description>Also dosn&apos;t have a list of operators.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:16:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>delmoi</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: iconjack</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1348956</link>	
		<description>Conjecture: The smallest positive integer  &lt;i&gt;n&lt;/i&gt; for which &lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;i&gt;n&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; breaks the grapher is 9.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:17:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iconjack</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cerebus19</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1348961</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also dosn&apos;t have a list of operators.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.e-tutor.com/et2/graphing/instructions&quot;&gt;it does&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:23:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cerebus19</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: casconed</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349000</link>	
		<description>i just put in x^3434 and it was fine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:25:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>casconed</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Tryptophan-5ht</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349011</link>	
		<description>really cool, but a transparent gif with just the axii (?) would be really tiny and wouldn&apos;t have to be re downloaded... also, rendering a 800x800 chunk of the graph would also be rediculously small with gif compression and wouldn&apos;t necessitate downloading 12 new images every time you move the graph.  There&apos;s lots of ways this could be improved.

i mean, hell, why not just absolutely position 1px elements to draw the graph client side?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:45:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tryptophan-5ht</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sourwookie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349024</link>	
		<description>Whew! Just in time! The battery on my TI-85 just died.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:17:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sourwookie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349028</link>	
		<description>Maybe new browsers can have a javascript bitmapping engine :P</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:20:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>delmoi</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349045</link>	
		<description>Indeed, why not just use SVG, since as I understand it every browser worth mentioning supports it.  People looking for &quot;Web 2.0 Graphing Calculators&quot; aren&apos;t going to be using Netscape 3.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:27:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jimbob</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349046</link>	
		<description>(&lt;a href=&quot;http://isthis4real.com/orbit.xml&quot;&gt;For instance&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:32:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jimbob</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: aubilenon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349055</link>	
		<description>jimbob: that shows me a bunch of XML in ie 6.  I assume it&apos;s suppoed to actually render something?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:57:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aubilenon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349058</link>	
		<description>Sorry, I didn&apos;t include IE 6 in my list of &quot;any browser worth mentioning&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:04:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jimbob</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cardoso</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349062</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sorry, I didn&apos;t include IE 6 in my list of &quot;any browser worth mentioning&quot;.&lt;/em&gt;

Anyone does?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cardoso</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: russm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349064</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#1349046&quot;&gt;jimbob&lt;/a&gt; - wow, I really wasn&apos;t expecting to get preached at by an AJAX demo...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:24:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>russm</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: elpapacito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349066</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s also pretty useless for calculus</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:38:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>elpapacito</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: RussHy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349069</link>	
		<description>Wow. A single link to a pedestrian application. Must be n00b. Sure hope delmoi doesn&apos;t see this, he&apos;ll tear them a new one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:54:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RussHy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Brian B.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349123</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.graphcalc.com&quot;&gt;www.graphcalc.com&lt;/a&gt; has a pretty nice free download, and fits on a floppy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:31:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian B.</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: influx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349132</link>	
		<description>This isn&apos;t AJAX - it&apos;s not asynchronous, and there&apos;s no XML or XML-like client-to-server communication going on. It&apos;s just Javascript&apos;s &lt;code&gt;Math&lt;/code&gt; object (so the calculations are performed on the client, not the server), a bit of DHTML, and GD (or similar) rendering the graph as a gif.

I wish people would stop calling any old bit of Javascript AJAX.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:54:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>influx</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: influx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349135</link>	
		<description>Oh, I missed the gmaps tileserver type stuff. I am an idiot.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:55:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>influx</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: neuron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349356</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pacifict.com/Story/&quot;&gt;The Apple Graphing Calculator Story&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:22:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>neuron</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spazzm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349458</link>	
		<description>Isn&apos;t this exactly the sort of thing a Java Applet or Flash would be perfect for?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:18:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>spazzm</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spazzm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349459</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://gcalc.net/&quot;&gt;For example.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:22:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>spazzm</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spazzm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52515/mmm-parabolic#1349536</link>	
		<description>Conjecture: The grapher breaks for x&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;n&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; for all n &amp;gt;= 9 and mod(n,2)=1.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:39:37 -0800</pubDate>
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