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	<title>Comments on: Biro-art - fantastic ballpoint drawings.</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 04:57:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Biro-art - fantastic ballpoint drawings.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.biro-art.com/gallery.html"&gt;Biro-art&lt;/a&gt; - fantastic ballpoint drawings.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:54:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wolfdog</dc:creator>		<category>art</category>		<category>ballpoint</category>		<category>biro</category>		<category>dogsbollocks</category>		<category>grotesque</category>		<category>ink</category>		<category>pen</category>
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		<title>By: NinjaTadpole</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369836</link>	
		<description>He spends his days at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.b3ta.com&quot;&gt;b3ta&lt;/a&gt; and, if you happen to be in the right position at the right time of day, he takes requests.

And yes, it&apos;s just a biro and some paper.
Extraordinary.</description>
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		<title>By: Acey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369838</link>	
		<description>Haha, my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biro-art.com/dingding.html&quot;&gt;personal favourite&lt;/a&gt;. Stunning stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:01:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Acey</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: NinjaTadpole</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369839</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biro-art.com/bovinepr0n.html&quot;&gt;best&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:01:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>NinjaTadpole</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Gator</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369844</link>	
		<description>Some of these are really great.  The little details are hilarious.  &quot;Acme Otter Suit.&quot;  The Death of Penguins riding a jolly walrus.  The cloven feet of Devil Duck.  I got bored with all the &quot;ant&quot; ones, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:17:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369851</link>	
		<description>Wow, they look like old engravings.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:20:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jimbob</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: crunchland</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369859</link>	
		<description>If you can coax him into putting that cow porn up as a t-shirt, I&apos;d buy one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:27:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Faze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369860</link>	
		<description>Speaking as someone who helped pioneer this medium back in the 1960s and 70s, I acknowledge this artist&apos;s excellence, while at the same time, pointing out that he is not really challenging the medium.  The shapes and strokes and modelling he achieves are the easiest effects to do with a ball point pen, or biro.  The mode of caricature, the breakup of the page, and the range of values are all very comfortably done and correspond to the roll of the pen over the paper, swiveling at the arc of the palm.  He should recognize that these broad caricatures have been done before with biro.  What he needs to do now is to bring the medium to  bear on the realistic human face and figure.  Realistic depictions of human beings and their clothing are a struggle in ball point, but the person who does it successfully will have accomplished something new and potentially transcendent.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:33:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Faze</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Wolfdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369864</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Inhuman Pyramid faq
 ......  This drawing took seven months to complete and is my largest and most complex drawing to date.
......  Drawn as usual on sheets of A4 printer paper, Inhuman Pyramid took 41 seperate sheets to complete, and three weeks to assemble in the computer. Previously to this the most sheets I&apos;d used on a picture was eleven on From Heaven to Hell
......  The full sized assembled picture is over two meters tall and a meter and a half wide - that&apos;s six and three quarter feet high by five feet wide. &lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:40:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wolfdog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: TheDonF</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369874</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biro-art.com/otterpenguin.html&quot;&gt;Otter Penguin&lt;/a&gt; is strangely cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 06:18:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NinjaTadpole</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369891</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/53021#1369860&quot;&gt;Faze&lt;/a&gt;: if he&apos;s around on monday, I&apos;ll give him a challenge.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:11:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Faze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1369976</link>	
		<description>Here&apos;s a couple of my biro drawings from the early seventies.  Not great, but it was an effort to pull out of the caricature trap...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://photobucket.com&quot;  _blank&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/stevesz/BicDrawingOne.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://photobucket.com&quot;  _blank&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/stevesz/BicDrawingTwo.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 09:52:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Faze</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Blue Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1370039</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m sure he could make money making a poster of his Inhuman Pyramid.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:00:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JoKeR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1370043</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...bring the medium to bear on the realistic human face and figure...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is an elfin face and figure good enough?

&lt;img alt=&quot;GeorgeBarrAPennyForYourThoughts_small.bmp&quot; src=&quot;http://WWW.riviere.ws/mt/archives/GeorgeBarrAPennyForYourThoughts_small.bmp&quot; width=&quot;306&quot; height=&quot;376&quot; /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:04:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: persona non grata</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1370198</link>	
		<description>Fantastic! Makes me wish I had at least one artistic bone in my body.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:04:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gamecat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1370263</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.davearchambault.com/index.shtml&quot;&gt;Dave Archambault&lt;/a&gt; seems to have headed in a direction more to Faze&apos;s liking. I think they are both excellent.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:52:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gamecat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: JoKeR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1370287</link>	
		<description>In case there was any doubt, the image I included above was done using only colored ball point pens by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bpib.com/illustra2/barr.htm&quot;&gt;George&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.well-of-dreams.com/thingamajig/&quot;&gt;Barr&lt;/a&gt;.
A larger image of the drawing can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.riviere.ws/r/GeorgeBarr.BMP&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:54:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ynoxas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1370353</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Realistic depictions of human beings and their clothing are a struggle in ball point, but the person who does it successfully will have accomplished something new and potentially transcendent.&lt;/em&gt;

I would assume Gamecat&apos;s link to Archambault would pretty much fulfill your criteria for transcendence.  I think he easily qualifies for &quot;realistic depictions&quot; to the point of almost (monochrome) photorealism.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:11:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stagewhisper</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1370805</link>	
		<description>Ynoxas,
I dunno that Archambault would fulfill Faze&apos;s criteria for transcendence- mainly because tracing photographs and then depicting them in pen and ink is not exactly pushing any creative bounderies. My own personal definition of art is extremely broad, but with the exception of an artist like Chuck Close, who made every daub of paint, pencil, or charcoal count on its own in his photo-realistic portraits that he mapped out from  photographs, that process is closer to say, paint by numbers, than art. I prefer the originality and actual creative problem solving on Biro-Art and I hope the artist takes Faze&apos;s advice (which I think was given out of respect, rather than derision) and pushes his vision further in a direction that is completely his own.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:41:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53021/Biroart-fantastic-ballpoint-drawings#1379294</link>	
		<description>I love this biro art! How inspiring! Thanks for yet another great post &lt;strong&gt;Wolfdog&lt;/strong&gt;. (Yours are some of my favs). I love the &quot;ant&quot; series. Especially the ped&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biro-art.com/pedant.html&quot;&gt;ant&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, Faze, Wonderful drawings! I love the one on top. Can&apos;t access the photobucket site, any other site I can look at your art?

Really good additional links in the thread.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:25:17 -0800</pubDate>
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