(1) SUPPORT FOR YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS- No Federal law (including any rule, regulation, directive, instruction, or order) shall be construed to limit any Federal agency from providing any form of support for a youth organization (including the Boy Scouts of America or any group officially affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America) that would result in that Federal agency providing less support to that youth organization (or any similar organization chartered under the chapter of title 36, United States Code, relating to that youth organization) than was provided during each of the preceding 4 fiscal years.posted by little miss manners at 8:00 AM on July 26, 2006
To my untrained eyes this does indicate that there are certain restrictions being placed on the interpretation of existing federal law, namely that any existing federal law applicable in the relevant context cannot be interpreted in such a way as would result in a reduction in the amount of financial support given the group in comparison to the previous four years.
Is this interpretation accurate?
You have to admit, a gay troop leader is sort of creepy.WTF ... XQ pointed it out the difference to you, but you still insist on judging a perfectly benign action by irrelevant sexual preference.
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No, a troop leader who molests children is creepy.
No, both are equally creepy. Well... okay... the child molester's more creepy, but the point remains: they're both creepy.
To be a person of strong character, your relationships with others should be honest and open. You should respect and defend the rights of all people. Be clean in your speech and actions, and remain faithful in your religious beliefs. The values you practice as a Scout will help you shape a life of virtue and self-reliance.My beliefs, and the belief systems in which I was raised, hold that prejudice, bigotry and discrimination are bad things to practice. The whole Scout Oath does not say that one must be faithful to a specific morality, but the morality of their religious community. (Which is another problem with the BSA's policy is that it has started to refuse to recognize denominations tolerant of homosexuality.)
Respect of privacyI'm done with Scouts, as well. Even after getting Eagle and the Vigil Honor, I can't support the organization any more. Reverence is supposed to be tolerance and respect, not discrimination.
Adult leaders must respect the privacy of youth members in situations such as changing clothes and taking showers at camp, and intrude only to the extent that health and safety require. Adults must protect their own privacy in similar situations.
"The Los Angeles City Council voted 11 to 0 to cut the city's ties with the Boy Scouts of America.posted by ericb at 11:42 AM on July 26, 2006
Most California public high schools have withdrawn sponsorship of local scout troops.
Chicago, San Francisco and San Jose, Calif., have told local Scout troops that they can no longer use parks, schools and other municipal sites.
San Francisco's judges cut all ties with the Boy Scouts
The Minneapolis school board voted unanimously to end its sponsorship of Boy Scout troops and to prohibit the Scouts from recruiting new members in the public schools.
Steven Spielberg stepped down...from an advisory board of the Boy Scouts of America, saying that he could no longer associate with a group that engages in 'discrimination.'
Chase Manhattan Bank, Levi-Strauss & Co. and Textron Inc. Wells Fargo severed ties in the early 1990s and recently asked the United Way to steer its $400,000 donation away from the Boy Scouts.
Novell Inc. will no longer match employee contributions to the Boy Scouts of America.
CVS Pharmacy chain stopped funding the Boy Scouts in September, 2001.
Carrier Corporation has stopped funding the Boy Scouts.
HSBC bank stops supporting Boy Scouts.
Scripps Networks has asked the United Way to exclude the Boy Scouts of America from their corporate gift.
Reform Jewish leaders are recommending that parents withdraw their children from membership in the Boy Scouts of America and that synagogues end their sponsorship of Scout troops."
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I don’t feel there is anything inherently wrong with a homosexual (or “homophile” – again, what’s good for the goose…) being in a position to care for children any more than anyone with any other sexual predilection. The problem is with the person who openly embraces, endorses, displays, advocates or otherwise models that sexual predilection being in a position to care for children.If there's nothing wrong with being a homosexual or thinking that homosexuality is a normal subset of human sexuality, then why is it wrong for a role model to be openly homosexual (or to state that homosexuality is a normal subset of human sexuality)? If there's nothing wrong with it, then there's nothing wrong with expressing it (given the universal restrictions on Public Displays of Affection that apply across the board).
In big, capital letters floating in mid-air are “GOOD” near the top of the slide, and “BAD” near the bottom of the slide.Can you give me any reason, other than the fact that you personally find the behavior "icky", that acceptance of homosexuality as a normal subset of human sexuality belongs at the "BAD" end of the slide?
And somehow, amazingly, folks interpret that as “equating” homosexuals to NAMBLA or NORML members.People got that impression, not at all amazingly, because you brought up here the idea that accepting homosexuality is inevitably linked to the acceptance of NAMBLA. And, in fact, you are the only one who brought up the spectre of NAMBLA as even relevant to the issue at hand. The idea that you hold the two morally equivalent (even if not in scale) is not an unreasonable idea to take away from that post.
"According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word homophobia was originally used to mean "fear of men, or aversion towards the male sex". However, from 1969 the term has been more frequently used with its present meaning.posted by ericb at 8:33 AM on July 27, 2006
The first time it appeared in print was in the American Time magazine, where it was coined by clinical psychologist George Weinberg, who claims to have first thought of it while speaking at a homophile group in 1965, and popularized by his book Society and the Healthy Homosexual in 1971. It combines the Greek term phobos, meaning "fear" or "panic", and the root homo from the word "homosexual", which originates in the Greek word homos, meaning "the same". A possible etymological precursor was homoerotophobia, coined by Dr. Wainwright Churchill in Homosexual Behavior Among Males in 1967."
"An iconoclastic heterosexual, clinical psychologist and gay activist, George Weinberg has tirelessly championed gay rights for many decades, with his own priceless fusion of passion and clear-thinking analysis....George challenged the conventional notion of homosexuality as a disease and gave gay men and lesbians everywhere a solid theoretical basis for dignity and pride. The Oxford English Dictionary credits George Weinberg with coining the term 'homophobia' which is now a recognized term in the vocabulary of social theory and gay activism alike."posted by ericb at 8:41 AM on July 27, 2006
"St. Paul police cited the 81-year-old father of Sen. Norm Coleman (R. - Minn.) and a female companion after officers reported seeing them engaged in a sex act in the parking lot of a popular pizzeria.posted by ericb at 10:41 AM on July 27, 2006
A person passing Red Savoy's Pizza at 421 E. Seventh St. called police about 6:30 p.m. Tuesday and said two people were 'having sex in a vehicle,' a police report said.
Officers issued citations to Norman B. Coleman Sr. and Patrizia M. Schrag, 38, for lewd and disorderly conduct."
bigotWhat's that about making your morning? I'm sure your wife is impressed.
n : a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own
"There are few issues as hotly contested — and as poorly understood — as the question of what makes a person gay or straight. It's not only a political, social, and religious question but also a scientific question, one that might someday have an actual, provable answer.New Scientist: Male sexuality may be decided in the womb.
The handful of scientists who work in this under-funded and politically charged field will tell you: That answer is a long way off. But as Lesley Stahl reports, their efforts are already yielding tantalizing clues. One focus of their research is twins." [more]
To me, someone who is openly gay (oddly, until this very second*) is an open advocate of homosexuality. And with that thought, an image of a protest sign reading "We're here. We're queer. Get used to it" pops in my head.Is "We're here. We're queer. Get used to it." advocating homosexuality? I thought it was advocating the right of homosexuals to exist.
"America's divorce rate is close to a staggering 50 percent. Massachusetts...has one of the lowest divorce rates in the United States. At last count, Massachusetts' divorce rate is 2.4 per 1,000 people, while data complied by the U.S. Census Bureau shows that divorce rates among the Bible Belt states (Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas) are roughly 50 percent above the national average of 4.2 per 1,000 people.So much for traditional family values!
Perhaps even more surprising are the divorce rates among professed evangelicals. A study released by the Barna Group in 2004 shows that the incidence of divorce among 'born-again Christians' is identical to 'those who are not born again.' According to this survey, 35 percent of born-again Christians who have married eventually divorce. That figure is identical to the married adults who do not identify themselves as 'born-again Christians.' This same survey also indicates that relatively few divorced Christians got divorced before their religious conversion and that among divorced Christians, nearly one-quarter get divorced two or more times.
News-Press | June 28, 2006]
Newt Gingrich (R-GA; adultery/divorced)So much for the "sanctity of marriage!"
George Allen (R-VA; divorced)
Christiopher S. Bond (R-MO; divorced)
Kay Bailey Hutchison(R-TX; divorced)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY; divorced)
-- and that's just a beginning.
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Did you read it? Because that isn't what the Bill says.
posted by dios at 7:38 AM on July 26, 2006