Comments on: Witness: holocausts and genocides as told in art

Witness: holocausts and genocides as told in art

madamjujujive — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:03:54 -0800

The Ghetto Diary of Eli Lesky, The Fifth Horseman, the Buchewald Series, artwork by Joseph Bau; Paintings of the Hmong Migration; Visualizing Otherness - Nazi and other racist propaganda - all this and much, much more from the University of Minnesota's The Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies.

By: growabrain

growabrain — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:35:31 -0800

wow! incredible find, madam

By: languagehat

languagehat — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:47:21 -0800

Great post. Lesky's irony is so grimly jolly it cracks my skull: Honeymoon Cottage.

By: pwedza

pwedza — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:24:11 -0800

Great post. Here is an article about the Hmong in French Guyana comparing their adjustment to life in the US vs. S.America.

By: safetyfork

safetyfork — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:33:03 -0800

Wow. Thanks for the link(s), madamjujujive!

By: nickyskye

nickyskye — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:14:11 -0800

Great find, Madamjujujive. Had to see the face of this mischievously funny, brave man, Fritz Hirschberger, who survived what he did and created such interesting paintings. The Lego concentration camp art was darkly poignant. The topic of seeing other people as alien from oneself, as "The Other", rather simply others, wasn't really discussed in the museum's site. It's a complex topic and worth some decent articles about how people or groups get scapegoated, the scapegoating process. There have been so many mass scapegoatings, massacres and genocides throughout history. On that site there were links to articles and info I din't know about, like "Asian Holocaust :Opium, Sex Slaves, Nanjing Massacre". Some genocides have gone unmentioned, like the slaughter of approximately 600,000 (between 200,000 and 1,000,000) people under Suharto in Indonesia. Still, an excellent site and Fritz Hirschberger's art is particularly communicative: the person who has been perceived as The Other, seeing the sadism of that perceiver.

By: kjc

kjc — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:42:14 -0800

Wow. Does this Holocaust Museum have the ball point pen Anne Frank wrote her diary with? How about the hospital bed from which Elie Weasel's father decided they should evacuate with the Nazis when Auschwitz was about to fall to the Russians? How about some of those bars of soap made from the rendered fat of Jews? Oh yeah, even Yad Vashom admits that's a lie. Any mention of the tens of millions of Russians who were holocausted by Jewish Bolsheviks? Didn't think so.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:25:37 -0800

Whoa. Who is this kjc? ...OK, here are his last couple of comments: Ding dong. The wicked child-murdering scum [Ariel Sharon] is gone. posted by kjc at 1:00 AM EST on January 6 Like the rest of "the tribe," [Elie Wiesel]'s also completely indifferent to the tens of millions of Russian Christians raped, robbed and murdered by what even Noam Chomsky calls Jewish Boshevism. posted by kjc at 9:59 PM EST on December 8 I'm not going to call for bannination or anything, because I'm a firm believer in free speech, but I sure don't want to ever find myself in the same room with this... person.

By: kjc

kjc — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:05:24 -0800

Note: Help maintain a healthy, respectful discussion by focussing comments on the issues, topics, and facts at hand -- not at other members of the site.

By: madamjujujive

madamjujujive — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:06:41 -0800

What languagehat said. Wow. Just wow. I've heard about people who think this way, but our paths have never intersected before - at least to my knowledge. Very sad. I guess here in this thread, we see the seeds for why such a museum exists.

By: kjc

kjc — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:43:56 -0800

That is correct madamjujujive. The seeds of "The Holocaust" were sown in the Russian Empire by mass-murdering (the number of their victims has not evened been rounded off to the nearest ten of million) Jewish Bolsheviks in the pay of Jewish Bankers, specifically the Rothschilds International Crime Syndicate. Can you tell me why Yad Vashem no longer displays bars of soap "made from Jews." Hint: Can you say "DNA testing?"

By: nickyskye

nickyskye — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:29:51 -0800

The worst genocides of the 20th Century.

By: matteo

matteo — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:39:53 -0800

Jewish bankers paid me to open a MeTa thread on their behalf

By: CunningLinguist

CunningLinguist — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:51:10 -0800

Where is Protocols of the Elders of Awesome when you need him?

By: riotgrrl69

riotgrrl69 — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:01:30 -0800

I think deep down, kjc is really upset that the Holocaust didn't happen. Someone should have shown those Bolshevik Jews a lesson!

By: found missing

found missing — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:21:16 -0800

Hey, kjc: I appreciate skepticism, but I'm afraid yours is intensely misguided. You like to read, right? Well, perhaps your reading list has become a bit narrow. Here is my recommendation for summer reading for a committed skeptic, such as yourself. Chapter 13 is bound to give you some insight into the insular movement that you find yourself in. Chapter 14 might help to explain to you why people here respond to you incredulously.

By: edgeways

edgeways — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:50:37 -0800

notwithstanding the threadjack of a quiet delusionist, this is a good post/good find. Thanks for calling my attention to it, madamjujujive, next year I start my Master's paper and this is a good resource for it. ...or obliquely, thanks to the idiot who spurred the callout, because I missed the FPP in the blue but the topic was called to my attention via the gray, so you see even anti-semetic numbskulls can have a positive effect.

By: caddis

caddis — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:27:36 -0800

Very nice madam.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:29:49 -0800

Can you tell me why Yad Vashem no longer displays bars of soap "made from Jews." Hint: Can you say "DNA testing?" I doubt DNA would survive the process used to create soap.