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	<title>Comments on: Artist trading cards</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:36:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Artist trading cards</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecritures.nl/atc/gallery.html&quot;&gt;Artist &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://atc.hingeonline.com/gallery.php?startrow=2&quot;&gt;trading &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.b-muse.com/artist-trading-cards-g.HTM#color&quot;&gt;cards &lt;/a&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.empressdragon.com/Hand_Anim.html&quot;&gt;ATC&apos;s&lt;/a&gt;) have three rules they &lt;a href=&quot;http://art.search.ebay.com/ATC_Self-Representing-Artists_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfposZQ5AIPQ2fPostalQQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsqZTWOQ204Q20xQ204Q20artQ20squaredQ20FRAMEQ20withQ20standQ20WOODQ20aceoQ20sizesQQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZ20158QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs&quot;&gt;shouldn&apos;t be sold&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cedarseed.com/air/atc.html&quot;&gt;they are to measure exactly 2.5&quot; by 3.5&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, and on the back they must have the artist&apos;s name, contact information, title of the ATC and it&apos;s number in the series. Since &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artist-trading-cards.ch/galleryStirnemann.html&quot;&gt;M. Vanci Stirnemann&lt;/a&gt; started this &lt;a href=&quot;http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0QVA/is_1_5/ai_n16029308/print&quot;&gt;hobby in 1997&lt;/a&gt; it has &lt;a href=&quot;http://artisttradingcards.meetup.com/photos/&quot;&gt;spread the world over&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/12837&quot;&gt;previously on metafilter&lt;/a&gt;] &lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:12:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bigmusic</dc:creator>		<category>ATC</category>		<category>ACEO</category>		<category>art</category>		<category>cards</category>		<category>trade</category>		<category>hobby</category>
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		<title>By: homodigitalis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1403751</link>	
		<description>Very cool - never heared of them before. I better start my own collection and set of ATCs. Thanks!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:36:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhammond</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1403757</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;they shouldn&apos;t be sold&lt;/i&gt;

So, I guess they&apos;re giving them away.  Where do I send to get my free cards?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:40:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1403765</link>	
		<description>dhammond, the T stands for &lt;i&gt;trading&lt;/i&gt;. You trade your card for theirs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:49:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Orb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1403797</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atcards.com&quot;&gt;ATCards.com&lt;/a&gt; is another great source on ATC&apos;s with forums, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atcards.com/gallery/index.php&quot;&gt;galleries&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atcards.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14&quot;&gt;how-to articles&lt;/a&gt;.

The general rule is that the cards are to be swapped, either between creators or collectors, and I am sure some people just give them away with no swapping involved. I&apos;ve been involved with ATC&apos;s for a while now, and so far haven&apos;t sold any of mine, but I&apos;m a starving artist, and every time someone offers to buy one of my cards, I have to decide whether to give it to them or insist on a swap (which doesn&apos;t work if the other person isn&apos;t a card creator or doesn&apos;t have any to swap). It&apos;d be nice to at least get a few bucks to buy more supplies and pay myself a few pennies an hour for the work, but a few of the swap groups I belong to have a blanket ban on selling and will kick anyone selling cards to the curb, so thus far, I&apos;ve haven&apos;t sold any ... yet.

They are fun to make, and it&apos;s very challenging working on such a small &quot;canvas&quot;. I&apos;m working on some this week for a swap that are becoming quite complex (more like tiny unfolding books), and it&apos;s been an engineering challenge to get them to work the way I want them to work. I&apos;d say they are a fun hobby for anyone, artist or not, to get into, but you do have to watch for people who I call &quot;artsy snobs&quot; ... they only want to trade with you if they deem your work on par or better then theirs. Me? I&apos;ll trade with anyone who can put something on a 2.5&quot;x3.5&quot; card. It&apos;s fun getting something in the mail that isn&apos;t a bill or junk mail, and it&apos;s been interesting seeing what people come up with.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:12:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Orb</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: parhamr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1403816</link>	
		<description>see related: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artomat.org/home.html&quot;&gt;artomat&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:37:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nlindstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1403875</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://art.search.ebay.com/ATC_Paintings_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR40QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsacatZ20125&quot;&gt;Shouldn&apos;t be sold, eh?&lt;/a&gt;  For those of you starting your collections, eBay has you covered.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:35:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jefbla</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1403889</link>	
		<description>First rule of Artist Trading Card club is there is no Artist Trading Card selling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:47:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: klangklangston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1403893</link>	
		<description>While I love these... This post is pretty much a flat-out double, right? (Because I considered making it about a month ago and got the flag).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:50:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: efalk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1404052</link>	
		<description>My friend started making something extremely similar about 18 months ago, though he hadn&apos;t heard about this group/phenomenon. It can be pretty cool, but seems an easy way for some to cop out and sell later on,</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:09:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1404148</link>	
		<description>I have seen this before, but this is a very nice collection.  Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:17:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1404212</link>	
		<description>seems there&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.picturetrail.com/alteredartswap&quot;&gt;lots&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thegreatartswap.com/&quot;&gt;interesting ways&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allinfoaboutartswaps.com/&quot;&gt;swap art&lt;/a&gt;!  thanks for turning me on to this idea!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:01:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ancientgower</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1404723</link>	
		<description>Oh, no--one of the links is to an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.b-muse.com/ATC-ARt-supplies.htm&quot;&gt;art supply place&lt;/a&gt;.  Curse you, MetaFilter!  

::slowly, strugglingly, reaches for credit card::</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:21:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/53945/Artist-trading-cards#1405535</link>	
		<description>Awesome post bigmusic! Didn&apos;t know about this and am really interested in the art and the phenomenon.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:51:48 -0800</pubDate>
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