Comments on: "I hate America even more this week."

"I hate America even more this week."

brain_drain — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:50:37 -0800

How a Right-Winger Sees the New York Times.

By: grabbingsand

grabbingsand — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:53:58 -0800

Metafilter: Two Dudes ... What? Too soon?

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:59:41 -0800

Two CEOs in cut-offs.

By: Dr-Baa

Dr-Baa — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:00:10 -0800

The Al-Qaeda Newsletter (and Coupon Book) I lol'd.

By: Optimus Chyme

Optimus Chyme — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:01:01 -0800

Awesome.

By: piratebowling

piratebowling — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:01:13 -0800

I was hoping they'd do something with the "Has Ann Coulter GONE TO FAR?" ad in the lower left corner.

By: Armitage Shanks

Armitage Shanks — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:02:30 -0800

That Salt Lake City inset is hilarious.

By: Megafly

Megafly — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:03:11 -0800

Clintos play soccer with severed head of Vince Foster he he

By: brain_drain

brain_drain — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:04:00 -0800

It's probably too late, but I should add that this is very slightly NSFW due to some censored nudity and salty language.

By: bevets

bevets — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:05:05 -0800

Fair and Balanced

By: stenseng

stenseng — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:06:33 -0800

OH HAY, LOOK EVERYBODY, IT'S BEVETS!!! YAY

By: Armitage Shanks

Armitage Shanks — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:09:16 -0800

Fair and Balanced The FPP is funnier. This sort of joke doesn't really work as well with pages of text.

By: solid-one-love

solid-one-love — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:13:10 -0800

The Groseclose-Milyo "study" is laughable. Their methodology is beyond suspect and their definitions are misleading at best and disingenuous at worst. Try again, Bevets. better yet, don't.

By: dios

dios — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:17:42 -0800

White people drive like this. Black people drive like this.

By: sonofsamiam

sonofsamiam — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:21:03 -0800

Hey, I don't appreciate that kind of racist humor.

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:23:45 -0800

Racist? Like NASCAR?

By: prostyle

prostyle — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:24:08 -0800

I think it was a statement of fact. Lean Wit' It!

By: Zozo

Zozo — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:24:39 -0800

Amirite?

By: the bevets bot

the bevets bot — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:25:15 -0800

$ javac the_bevets_bot.java $ java the_ bevets_bot There are no transitional fossils.

By: tula

tula — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:29:22 -0800

I wish one of the altered NYT mastheads was "The Red Rag", since I know republicans who actually call it that.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:30:54 -0800

The world isn't black and white. Neither is comedy.

By: the bevets bot

the bevets bot — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:34:15 -0800

solid-one-love "Methodology" has been demonstrated. "Defintions" as a definition is not reliable. What is it if it is not murder?

By: Navelgazer

Navelgazer — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:36:44 -0800

White people drive like this. Black people drive like this. It's true! We're so lame! Also, is there much point in posting "NSFW for language" from a site chock-full of the same language?

By: languagehat

languagehat — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:38:10 -0800

[This is funny.]

By: [expletive deleted]

[expletive deleted] — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:46:02 -0800

Can someone explain to Dios in words he can understand that you aren't being persecuted if you are a member of an empowered elite?

By: M.C. Lo-Carb!

M.C. Lo-Carb! — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:46:34 -0800

whoa, that gave me the blue screen of death. These tubes, they're getting too advanced for my computer.

By: the bevets bot

the bevets bot — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:48:40 -0800

Blazecock Pileon The writer never bothers to give any evidence for an black versus white -- he merely assumes black-and-white-ism must have happened. These teleolocial benefits fit better with an straw man insertion failure than left-winger politics (racism denial agreement attribution arrogance incivility &&**&*$&(*&$98YFh8$]) So long as you are secure you will count many friends; if your life becomes clouded you will be alone. ~ Ovid

By: parmanparman

parmanparman — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:50:13 -0800

That is hilarious, my boss is annoyed because I am laughing so hard.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:50:20 -0800

Doesn't work for me in Firefox or IE-in-Firefox, even with javascript allowed.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:51:58 -0800

Oh, ok, I have to click the instructions box first.

By: turducken

turducken — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:55:58 -0800

I don't know who this "bevets" is, but if I get one more un-warned pdf link, I'm gonnna shoot this dog. (Plz. imagine my having the time to post that classic NatLamp cover of dog with gun to head. Also plz. imagine I knew the html to do it with. Thank you.)

By: sonofsamiam

sonofsamiam — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:56:45 -0800

holy cow nice html dude!

By: d723

d723 — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:58:08 -0800

How is this any better than what they are accusing the "wing nuts" of doing? Stuff like this only perpetuates the football politics mentality, that were on opposing "teams" and it's "us" agaist "them," "red" against "blue." May as well be "shirts" and "skins" (and I probably don't even need to say which would be which in that scenario). Contrary to the current political blogger mentality, there are plenty of ideas that unite us. Freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness and all that jazz. You can't accuse the opposition of demonizing the opposition without in turn committing the act you're demonizing. Duh.

By: dios

dios — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:59:38 -0800

Can someone explain to Dios in words he can understand that you aren't being persecuted if you are a member of an empowered elite? posted by [expletive deleted] at 3:46 PM CST on August 18 Wtf are you babbling about? How did you get that out the comment I made? The comment I made was referring to a Simpsons episode about lame humor that is nothing more than "look how we are different." This webpage is more of the same. "Look at them. Laugh at them. They are different." The same joke could be made with The Other being gay people, French people, Southerners, Northerners, Christians, Jews, blind people, etc. It's basically "lets laugh at this characterization of people different than us" where characterization has little relation to any real person. It's basically The Strawman as a Joke.

By: dios

dios — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:00:08 -0800

And what d723 said.

By: eustacescrubb

eustacescrubb — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:01:32 -0800

Damn you, bevets, for linking to a PDF without warning us. grrrrr. That's a thing apart from linking to a study with deeply flawed methodology.

By: grabbingsand

grabbingsand — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:03:45 -0800

Okay. It was too soon. How about ... Metafilter: Thirty-Five Dudes (So Far) Strokin' It

By: absalom

absalom — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:04:49 -0800

Lots of footnotes, but almost no sources. It's pretty impressive for that alone.

By: absalom

absalom — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:04:59 -0800

The pdf, i mean.

By: sonofsamiam

sonofsamiam — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:06:04 -0800

You can't accuse the opposition of demonizing the opposition without in turn committing the act you're demonizing. I've been thinking about it, and this sure sounds like a crock to me. Of course you can.

By: grabbingsand

grabbingsand — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:12:59 -0800

Dios, Dios, Dios ... Conservatives see the NYT as a liberal rag. Hence, the funny.

By: COBRA!

COBRA! — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:13:55 -0800

Contrary to the current political blogger mentality, there are plenty of ideas that unite us. Freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness and all that jazz. Fuck you, buddy. I hate jazz.

By: lekvar

lekvar — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:19:21 -0800

It's basically The Strawman as a Joke. Is this supposed to make it less funny somehow?

By: Hypnic jerk

Hypnic jerk — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:22:06 -0800

Stuff like this only perpetuates the football politics mentality... You can't accuse the opposition of demonizing the opposition without in turn committing the act you're demonizing. Duh. So, all it's going to take for this kind of shit to stop is for one side to give up?

By: furiousthought

furiousthought — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:23:06 -0800

Yeah, applying debate tactics to humor is pretty much gonna kill any of it on contact. The site's kinda cute.

By: dig_duggler

dig_duggler — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:24:56 -0800

I never thought I'd say this, but that was really, really funny dios. I have some old theory that you can sum up any situation with a classic simpsons quote. Well played sir, well played.

By: scrump

scrump — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:29:34 -0800

bevets AND dios? In the same thread? POPCORN NOW AMIRITE

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:29:47 -0800

Damn you, bevets, for linking to a PDF without warning us. Not to excuse the practice, but get PDF Download. It lets you view, download, or cancel any PDF link after you click on it. Simply invaluable.

By: rob511

rob511 — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:31:41 -0800

Loved the bylines (Mullah Umani Lefkowitz, Phineas Rothschild...) — can't we all just get ~~along~~ married?

By: Armitage Shanks

Armitage Shanks — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:35:42 -0800

It's basically "lets laugh at this characterization of people different than us" where characterization has little relation to any real person. Well, actually, it's "let's laugh at the characterization of the characterization of a newspaper by people different than us" where characterization has little relation to any real newspaper.

By: beatrice

beatrice — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:35:44 -0800

Metafilter: Slack jawed rubes drive around in circles.

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:38:14 -0800

turducken writes "(Plz. imagine my having the time to post that classic NatLamp cover of dog with gun to head. Also plz. imagine I knew the html to do it with. Thank you.)" Here turduken, borrow my kitten Not actually my kitten, image stolen from Fandango's Polaroid directory

By: amberglow

amberglow — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:51:49 -0800

Excellent!

By: amberglow

amberglow — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:53:37 -0800

The same joke could be made with The Other being gay people, French people, Southerners, Northerners, Christians, Jews, blind people, etc. It's basically "lets laugh at this characterization of people different than us" where characterization has little relation to any real person. It's basically The Strawman as a Joke. No. It's about those who see everything they don't like as The Other, whether it actually really is or not.

By: snofoam

snofoam — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:57:51 -0800

The world isn't black and white. Neither is comedy. and since 1997 or so, neither is the new york times.

By: nickyskye

nickyskye — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:16:49 -0800

Enjoyed that.

By: Smedleyman

Smedleyman — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:22:06 -0800

"Funny is good. Funny is good. But then do it by using comedy and humor, not police action and coffee remarks." *still missing Kirby*

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:28:02 -0800

and since 1997 or so, neither is the new york times. I rather like its grey color. My comment was actually directed at another's — no worry.

By: oncogenesis

oncogenesis — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:31:33 -0800

d723: Contrary to the current political blogger mentality, there are plenty of ideas that unite us. Freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness and all that jazz. I'd like to believe that and we're certainly conditioned to take it as a given in the US, but I've spent time on certain websites which have shaken that belief. Contrary to the common wisdom, the vast majority of the population doesn't understand freedom, and they don't want it. And the pursuit of happiness = let's go shopping. Finally, I hate to agree with COBRA!: jazz sucks.

By: oncogenesis

oncogenesis — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:32:10 -0800

s/hate/have/

By: gramschmidt

gramschmidt — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:36:00 -0800

the vast majority of the population doesn't understand ~~freedom~~ jazz

By: bob sarabia

bob sarabia — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:59:05 -0800

Wasn't bevets supposed to be banned?

By: snofoam

snofoam — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:05:19 -0800

I rather like its grey color. My comment was actually directed at another's — no worry. i was actually referring to the fact that it didn't print any color photos until 1997, which was kind of a pointless comment, although i did feel at the time that the times was somehow betraying its journalistic seriousness.

By: eustacescrubb

eustacescrubb — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:30:03 -0800

diso: It's a joke. it's funny not because the sort of people who actually beieve the New York Times is biased to the left are genuinely that delusional, but precisely because most of those people are not that deliusional. It's called hyperbole. It's the overstatement that makes the joke funny. If it tried to be accurate in degree, it would cease to be funny.

By: d723

d723 — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:01:52 -0800

oncogenesis: Contrary to the common wisdom, the vast majority of the population doesn't understand freedom, and they don't want it. They want freedom, just not the same freedoms as their opposition. Seems the point of a public discourse is to establish what freedoms can peacefully coexist. If you imagine the same kind of exchange happening, not on the anonymous web, but in a room with actual people, it ends up looking like childish name-calling, kids making fun of each other. "Oh yea, well he wets the bed." "oh yea, well your mom.." Drawing silly pictures of the "other" kids other and showing them to their friends to make their friends laugh. It's more likely that the "vast majority of the population" encompases the vast majority of the gamut of opinions on any given topic. That's how it works. Everybody has opinions. Name-calling doesn't help us find the best course of action, discourse does. I guess I just find stuff like Sam Harris' reputle to be more adult, intelligent and effective at dismissing ridiculous arguments from opposition and moving us all along. But that's just my opinion. I like intellectuals. so who's working on the satire site of that satire site?

By: Liquidwolf

Liquidwolf — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:10:48 -0800

That's one thing the right seems unable to grasp : Humor. And don't tell me Mallard Fillmore is funny, but I don't get it.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:39:07 -0800

eustacescrubb writes "Damn you, bevets, for linking to a PDF without warning us. " I guess his link just wasn't, you know, intelligently designed.

By: Hypnic jerk

Hypnic jerk — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:44:50 -0800

diso: It's a joke. September '77 Port Elizabeth weather fine It was business as usual In police room 619 Oh Diso, Diso, because Diso Oh Diso, Diso, because Diso 't'sa joke, 't'sa joke -Irony is dead When I try to sleep at night I can only dream in red The outside world is black and white With only one colour dead Oh Diso, Diso, because Diso Oh Diso, Diso, because Diso 't'sa joke, 't'sa joke -Irony is dead

By: Serial Killer Slumber Party

Serial Killer Slumber Party — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:47:18 -0800

You see the new Klimnt in its splendor. I see two dudes strokin' it. Let's call the whole thing off.

By: nlindstrom

nlindstrom — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:48:19 -0800

How a Right-Winger Sees All Women:

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:29:22 -0800

Anyone know where one could get one of those stove guards?

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:22:34 -0800

Fireplace accesory store. It looks like a spark guard.

By: wfc123

wfc123 — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:25:03 -0800

I posted it in alt.politics... "I don't get it. Is it supposed to be funny?"

By: wfc123

wfc123 — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:37:38 -0800

Sorry, but most liberal-hating right wingers are that delusional. That's why it's funny.

By: Baby_Balrog

Baby_Balrog — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:42:08 -0800

I'm kinda sick of that term - Right-Winger. It's something my mom used to say in the 80s. It implies that they reside in the right wing. The term is 'conservative'. Let's bury right-winger. Today's right-wingers fly planes into buildings.

By: eustacescrubb

eustacescrubb — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:47:18 -0800

Hypnic jerk : What are those lyrics? I laughed even not knowing where they come from. The term is 'conservative' -- Well, since being anti-gay marriage and pro-life hardly constitutes a genuine conservatism, I'd say the term is Republican. Modern Republicans are not truly conservative.

By: Hypnic jerk

Hypnic jerk — Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:30:39 -0800

Hypnic jerk : What are those lyrics? They're from Peter Gabriel's tribute song to Stephen Biko ("Biko"). When I saw dios's name misspelled as diso, for some reason, the tune just instantly popped into my head.

By: ZachsMind

ZachsMind — Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:42:11 -0800

*flaps right arm up and down several times* If the anti-gay pro-life pro-God-in-schools pro-war types were kicked out of the republican party, all you'd have left would be democrats.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:05:01 -0800

you forgot big business and military contractors, and racists, and those who live on trust funds...