Comments on: Begone Dull Care

Begone Dull Care

ob — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:10:11 -0800

with music by Oscar Peterson. Each frame of this short was scratched directly onto the film in order to be in perfect synch with the pre-recorded soundtrack. This has been discussed before here and more generally here but I haven't seen this online until now. More on Norman McLaren.

By: popcassady

popcassady — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:23:22 -0800

Reminds me of something else, though I can't remember what it was called. It was a film by two guys (brothers, twins maybe?) entirely made out of dots painted directly onto the celluloid. Does anyone know the title? (1960's) It's worth seeing -- the mind boggles at the concentration/dedication it would have taken to create.

By: johnny novak

johnny novak — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:26:57 -0800

it is gone

By: Grangousier

Grangousier — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:45:51 -0800

Not when I clicked on it. In fact I also watched McClaren's Neighbours at the same time. Amazing stuff.

By: ob

ob — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:52:52 -0800

I just checked the link and it works for me... Actually it's a shame that it's not better quality but that's you tube for you!

By: languagehat

languagehat — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:57:11 -0800

Terrific (and needless to say, I approve of the multilingual credits)—thanks for the post!

By: digaman

digaman — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:01:25 -0800

What a synchronicity! My husband Keith watched most of McLaren's marvelous shorts yesterday to prep for teaching an animation class. Even after decades of digital animation, McLaren's techniques and visual poetry still look fresh and innovative. FYI, McLaren was a natural-born synaesthete who saw colors when he heard music -- an obvious influence on his films. He was also gay and out of the closet at a time when that was highly unusual. Few people know this, but McLaren's shorts were also a huge influence on the young George Lucas, which I talked about in depth in my profile of Lucas for Wired in 2005.

By: ob

ob — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:24:22 -0800

Great article digaman I didn't know that about George Lucas. I did know that McLaren had synaesthesia, and to me Begone Dull Care is almost a homage to the condition. As a composer I come at this film from another perspective. When I hear music I 'see' musical notation in various forms and it's quite amazing to me how close his visualizations come to mine.

By: digaman

digaman — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:24:27 -0800

By the way, I wouldn't say that Begone Dull Care is McLaren's one masterpiece. Neighbours and Pas De Deux are masterpieces too.

By: digaman

digaman — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:24:52 -0800

Fascinating, ob.

By: ob

ob — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:35:42 -0800

Oh yeah, I didn't mean to say that it was his only masterpiece, it's just that for me everything is perfect in Begone Dull Care, albeit from my extremely subjective perspective...

By: Fuzzy Monster

Fuzzy Monster — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:37:34 -0800

I didn't know McLaren had synaesthesia. That does explain a lot. McLaren is one of my favorite animators of all time. A stone-cold Genius. Norman McLaren: The Collector's Edition

By: digaman

digaman — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:42:55 -0800

Another brilliant Canadian filmmaker who has been nearly forgotten was Arthur Lipsett. (There are encrypted Lipsett references scattered throughout George Lucas' films, as I talk about in the Wired piece.) A marvelous documentary on Lipsett called "Remembering Arthur" is coming out soon [YouTube link] from Canadian documentarian Dennis Mohr. Lipsett's profoundly moving "21-87," which I successfully convinced the National Film Board of Canada to put back in circulation on DVD, is one of my very favorite pieces of cinema.

By: digaman

digaman — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:46:19 -0800

"21-87" may be available for purchase here. Its availability for individual purchase has been unreliable, but see it if you can.

By: ob

ob — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:57:49 -0800

Wow I really want to see "21-87" now. The documentary looks great too.

By: johnny novak

johnny novak — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:01:54 -0800

I was referring to dull care

By: digaman

digaman — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:09:20 -0800

(Sorry to get so deep into the Lipsett drift, but as I mention in the article, Lucas lifted the phrase "the Force" from "21-87," from a scrap of documentary audio that Lipsett found in a trash bin at the National Film Board and used in his own film. I had the extreme pleasure of tracking down Roman Kroiter, whose voice was the original source of the phrase, and telling him -- he had no idea. He's in his 90s now and living in a cabin in rural Canada. He said, "I can't wait to tell my grandchildren!")

By: johnny novak

johnny novak — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:15:56 -0800

dull care

By: ob

ob — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:56:46 -0800

No, I'm now fascinated by the whole Lucas/Lipsett thing. It's always interesting to see how the avant garde and the commercial (for want of a better term) intersect. It's something that I think about in my own work a lot.

By: ob

ob — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:06:25 -0800

Uh, Johnny Novak what on earth was that link?

By: CynicalKnight

CynicalKnight — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:28:01 -0800

a film ... entirely made out of dots Is this it?

By: hard rain

hard rain — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:39:01 -0800

its' terrible to see this posted on YouTube - royalties anyone? copyright? a brilliant innovator...

By: popcassady

popcassady — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:37:02 -0800

a film ... entirely made out of dots Is this it? Alas, not.

By: johnny novak

johnny novak — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:38:32 -0800

ob ask George Bush ;)

By: languagehat

languagehat — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:54:03 -0800

johnny novak: You know, every fucking thing doesn't have to be turned into a political diatribe. Just in case you were wondering.

By: Wolof

Wolof — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:59:15 -0800

Brilliant, thank you!

By: MetaMonkey

MetaMonkey — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:33:26 -0800

Glorious combination of flicker and synaesthesia, I adore this stuff. Tempts me to make a Brakhage post. Some more Norman and pals in this post I made a while ago, from the Canadian Animation Board.

By: MetaMonkey

MetaMonkey — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:47:38 -0800

Ah, I appear to have missed the link to my post. Here's an interesting short essay on Begone Dull Care, instead. popcassady: Len Lye maybe?

By: johnny novak

johnny novak — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:20:31 -0800

and since when have I been doing that languagehat?

By: popcassady

popcassady — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 03:33:39 -0800

No, not Len Lye. More like, Linear Dreams.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 05:25:33 -0800

and since when have I been doing that languagehat? You've been doing that in this post, which has nothing to do with George Bush or Bohemian Grove. I hate Bush too, but somehow I manage to keep from mentioning the fact in threads about art. But do what you have to do.

By: ob

ob — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:05:41 -0800

MetaMonkey: thanks for the Brakhage links!

By: Laotic

Laotic — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:33:02 -0800

Masterpiece. Right. What do I need to appreciate this stuff? More free time and nothing to fill it with?

By: digaman

digaman — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:59:03 -0800

Well, we're certainly glad you made time for that post, Laotic. Perhaps you can schedule a meeting with some local toddlers to inform them that, in fact, Santa is a convenient fiction.

By: ob

ob — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:33:15 -0800

Laotic you've confused ignorant sneering for actually having something to say. An easy mistake to make for which the normal remedy is shutting the fuck up.