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	<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:39:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Much Murch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch</link>	
		<description>The visual interplay of helicopters and fan blades in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=UemtjPU5sFc&quot;&gt;opening scene&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;em&gt;Apocalypse Now.&lt;/em&gt;  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ki1Nauo8UGo&quot;&gt;idiot-future soundscapes&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;em&gt;THX-1138.&lt;/em&gt;  The concept for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=FydNMB6fvis&quot;&gt;baptism montage&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;em&gt;The Godfather.&lt;/em&gt;  The actual cut of the &quot;Director&apos;s Cut&quot; of &lt;em&gt;Touch of Evil.&lt;/em&gt;  The man responsible for all of these is &lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/name/nm0004555/&quot;&gt;Walter Murch,&lt;/a&gt; one of the greatest film and sound editors of all time.  &lt;small&gt;More Inside.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:38:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Iridic</dc:creator>		<category>waltermurch</category>		<category>editing</category>		<category>filmediting</category>		<category>soundediting</category>		<category>montage</category>		<category>godfather</category>		<category>apocalpysenow</category>		<category>touchofevil</category>		<category>thx1138</category>		<category>film</category>
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		<title>By: Iridic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437615</link>	
		<description>He&apos;s also one of the most eloquent.  Filmsound.org maintains a treasure trove of his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filmsound.org/murch/murch.htm&quot;&gt;articles and interviews.&lt;/a&gt; Highlights include &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filmsound.org/murch/stretching.htm&quot;&gt;&quot;Stretching Sound to Help the Mind See,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ps1.org/cut/volume/murch.html&quot;&gt;&quot;Dense Clarity/Clear Density,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; and an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apple.com/pro/film/murch/&quot;&gt;interview&lt;/a&gt; about Murch&apos;s editing work on &lt;em&gt;Cold Mountain&lt;/em&gt;--done (while standing up) with Apple&apos;s Final Cut Pro.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:39:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Prospero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437621</link>	
		<description>The most recent example of Murch&apos;s editing I&apos;ve seen is &lt;em&gt;Jarhead&lt;/em&gt;: there&apos;s a bit in there in which the Marines are watching the &quot;Ride of the Valkyries&quot; sequence in &lt;em&gt;Apocalypse Now&lt;/em&gt; that allows Murch to comment on his earlier work in an interesting way.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:44:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fungible</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437634</link>	
		<description>He was working upstairs from me last year, cutting Jarhead. I&apos;ve always admired the fact that he works standing up, on a specially designed desk. I wish I had the clout to demand shit like that. (I wouldn&apos;t mind making his salary either, but that&apos;s another story.)

Also, he&apos;s pretty much &lt;a href=http://www.apple.com/pro/film/murch2/index.html&gt;Mr. Final Cut Pro.&lt;/a&gt; Again, I wish I had the clout so I could throw this Windows Avid in the fucking trash.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:53:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hovercraft</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437649</link>	
		<description>Anyone been brave enough to check out his sole directorial effort, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089908/ &quot;&gt; Return to Oz?&lt;/a&gt; I&apos;ve always meant to...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:05:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lord_Pall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437652</link>	
		<description>I quite like Return to Oz. Dark, the way Baum wrote it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:07:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tubes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437666</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve read both &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Conversations-Walter-Murch-Editing-Film/dp/0375709827/sr=8-2/qid=1158692828/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-4325418-8582327?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;The Conversations&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Blink-Eye-Revised-2nd/dp/1879505622/sr=8-1/qid=1158692828/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-4325418-8582327?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;In the Blink of an Eye&lt;/a&gt;, and can attest that there is a lot to learn from Murch even if you have no aspirations of editing. He is a very thoughtful and worldly guy; being one of the greatest film and sound editors of all time seems to be just one of many facets.

Good post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:13:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sandor Clegane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437671</link>	
		<description>He is absolutely one of my favorite artists ever.  I also recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.comcast.net/~flickhead/Walter-Murch.html&quot; /a&gt;The Conversations: Walter Murch and the Art of Editing Film&lt;/a&gt;.  It provides a good insight into his approach to editing both picture and sound.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:16:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandor Clegane</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Sandor Clegane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437673</link>	
		<description>Damn..too late!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:17:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandor Clegane</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: winston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437676</link>	
		<description>Michael Ondaatje (author of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/English-Patient-Vintage-International/dp/0679745203/sr=8-8/qid=1158693128/ref=pd_bbs_8/102-8627550-6614554?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;The English Patient&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Skin-Lion-Vintage-International/dp/0679772669/sr=8-3/qid=1158693128/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-8627550-6614554?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;In The Skin Of A Lion&lt;/a&gt;, etc.) has done a book-length interview with Walter Murch called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Conversations-Walter-Murch-Editing-Film/dp/0375413863/sr=8-10/qid=1158693128/ref=pd_bbs_10/102-8627550-6614554?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;The Conversations&lt;/a&gt; (illustrated, of course). It&apos;s one of the most fascinating things I&apos;ve ever read.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:17:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: black bile</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437687</link>	
		<description>You know, there&apos;s this book called... never mind.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:25:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>black bile</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: grumblebee</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437693</link>	
		<description>You can see Murch and other editors interviewed in &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/title/tt0428441/&quot;&gt;The Cutting Edge.&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:32:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Iridic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437695</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Dark, the way Baum wrote it.&lt;/em&gt;

Much darker than that, actually.  The film opens in the gray, rained out real world, where Dorothy is about to receive electroshock therapy to cure of her &quot;delusions.&quot;  Oz, when she finally gets to it, is no relief or escape from Kansas; her friends have been turned to stone, the land&apos;s become dark and tainted, and screaming men with wheels for hands patrol the wreckage of the yellow brick road.  

In sum, it&apos;s exactly the kind of film that you&apos;d expect to get if you handed the Wizard of Oz franchise to the editor of &lt;em&gt;Apocalypse Now.&lt;/em&gt;  As a family film, it&apos;s pretty much a failure; but as a kind of horror fantasy, it has moments of brilliance.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:35:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Iridic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sonofsamiam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437706</link>	
		<description>I remember thinking as a child that Return to Oz was the scariest thing I had ever seen, those wheel guys and the queen with the wall of... *shudder*</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:42:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A189Nut</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437767</link>	
		<description>Murch synthesised the sound of helicopter blades for the opening scenes of Apocalypse by slowing down a recording of a piece of chain (taken from the pull of an overhead lavatory cistern) hitting a paper bag.... True.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:13:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dean King</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437934</link>	
		<description>More Murch at &lt;a href=&quot;http://transom.org/guests/review/200504.review.murch.html&quot;&gt;transom.org&lt;/a&gt;, including &quot;Womb Tone,&quot; a companion essay to &quot;Dense Clarity/Clear Density&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:22:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean King</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Wolof</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1437993</link>	
		<description>Very eloquent artist.  Thanks for posting this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:24:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alvy Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1438167</link>	
		<description>What sonofsamiam and Wolof said. Cool stuff!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:52:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alvy Ampersand</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: storybored</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1438220</link>	
		<description>In the Blink of an Eye had a nice commentary about the shift from the old editing technology to the new NLE editors; what was lost and what was gained.  That book&apos;s great.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:53:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: slimepuppy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1438365</link>	
		<description>Murch is required reading/studying for anyone with even a passing interest in editing. No doubt. 

Had a major nerdgasm last year when I discovered that Jarhead was shot by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005683/&quot;&gt;Deakins&lt;/a&gt; and cut by Murch. From a technical point of view, that film is without fault.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:28:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: allaboutgeorge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/54890/Much-Murch#1443423</link>	
		<description>Sorted! I&apos;ve borrowed a copy from the Berkeley public library. It&apos;s next soon as I finish &quot;Easy Riders, Raging Bulls.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:41:14 -0800</pubDate>
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