Comments on: It's not just Democrats and Republicans, you know.

It's not just Democrats and Republicans, you know.

deusdiabolus — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:08:24 -0800

The Libertarian candidate for the 24th District of the Kansas House was canvassing the local Mission, KS Arts and Eats festival, speaking with attendees and distributing campaign literature. Suddenly, a councilwoman approached him with a police officer and informed him he had to leave and would be charged with trespassing if he returned, an action which the Mayor has publicly denounced and has launched an investigation into.

By: rxrfrx

rxrfrx — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:11:13 -0800

orly

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:32:34 -0800

Thank god Councilwoman Suzie Gibbs is vigilantly protecting the people from democracy.

By: keswick

keswick — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:38:24 -0800

more like lolbertarians

By: Brian B.

Brian B. — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:01:16 -0800

My guess is that she confused "libertarian" for "liberal-vegetarian" and didn't even compute the overtly political nature of the eviction.

By: Jimbob

Jimbob — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:10:33 -0800

Okay, fair call. Stupid idea to think you can do this to a candidate, or anyone. But I can't get over the "Statue Of Liberty Holding An Automatic Weapon" logo on that blog. Libertarians are so damn cute!

By: delmoi

delmoi — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:19:58 -0800

Oh my god how terrible! It's like the one day we're over turning habeas corpus and the next uppity city councilwomen are kicking minor party candidates out of the local "Arts and Eats" festival, which he received a prompt apology for! Those things are totally equivalently and merit equal play in the media!

By: delmoi

delmoi — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:23:27 -0800

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:24:04 -0800

delmoi writes "Those things are totally equivalently and merit equal play in the media!" delmoi, I love you man, I generally love your comments, but stop with the "this outrage isn't outrageous enough" complaints. If there's something out there more deserving of our censure, FPP it. But, please, stop complaining about others' FPPs.

By: gyc

gyc — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:35:14 -0800

Those things are totally equivalently and merit equal play in the media! Well, in a sense, the councilwoman was obstructing the Democratic process. Yes, it's a fairly minor incident, but it seems to me we should take seriously all such acts, no matter how minor.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:47:06 -0800

delmoi, I love you man, I generally love your comments, but stop with the "this outrage isn't outrageous enough" complaints. Okay, okay. I still don't think this outrage is all so outrageous though. And the guy got an apology, and probably a lot more press then he otherwise would have. I'm sure he was annoyed at the time, but it was a mistake that the government owned up to which is far better then what we usually see.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:48:04 -0800

delmoi writes "a mistake that the government owned up to which is far better then what we usually see." Oh, agreed.

By: kaemaril

kaemaril — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:13:40 -0800

delmoi : Owned up to? Ah, so it's OK to squash people's rights as long as you say sorry afterwards. Good to know. I look forward to the results of the investigation. My prediction? "Oops, sorry, our bad ... no, there will be no repercussions against the councilwoman or the police-officer involved. Genuine mistake, they weren't to know, blah blah."

By: delmoi

delmoi — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:03:26 -0800

delmoi : Owned up to? Ah, so it's OK to squash people's rights as long as you say sorry afterwards. Good to know. No, it's not OK, but it does reduce the level of outrageousness from "OMG!" to "meh", at least in my book. Hopefully he'll get a settlement as well.

By: kaemaril

kaemaril — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:22:45 -0800

"Moving on to local news, today a young black student was kicked to death by police." OMG! "The police department immediately issued an apology. The spokesperson told reporters the officers in question were bad apples who didn't represent the true views of the police department, and would probably get a severe ticking off from their watch commander." Oh, they apologised? Meh.

By: shnoz-gobblin

shnoz-gobblin — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:48:42 -0800

While being thrown out of a festival is not on the same OMG/Meh scale as kicking someone to death (yet), I would like to see measures in place that protect upstart third party politicians from a two-party police state.

By: Brian B.

Brian B. — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:56:49 -0800

kaemaril, your guy obeyed the police.

By: Didaskalos

Didaskalos — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:57:11 -0800

He ought to sue to remind the Republicrats (or Demicans) that they don't own the system even if they control it for now. The only thing politicians like her understand is taking a financial and PR loss over his stupid act.

By: mcsweetie

mcsweetie — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:06:16 -0800

omg taxes too high, must form third party asap!

By: amberglow

amberglow — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:16:22 -0800

How could anyone have imagined that would have been legal? (or is it nowadays?)

By: StrasbourgSecaucus

StrasbourgSecaucus — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:20:18 -0800

why the hell did he obey them and leave? what a pussy.

By: Jimbob

Jimbob — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:51:13 -0800

why the hell did he obey them and leave? Because libertarians have a habit of preferring to let their lawyers speak for them? I'm just assuming he didn't have his lawyer with him, so didn't feel confidant in fighting back.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:09:30 -0800

Why would libertarians want to get the law and justice system and everything involved? Isn't that against what they want?

By: fleacircus

fleacircus — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:35:42 -0800

One time some cops showed up at this party and made us be quiet -- but like we totally weren't even being that loud.

By: kid ichorous

kid ichorous — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:40:10 -0800

Why would libertarians want to get the law and justice system and everything involved? Isn't that against what they want? There's nothing wrong with using the legal system for what it was designed. Better to see it used correctly in defense of free expression than used to regulate what substances you inhale or ingest.

By: kid ichorous

kid ichorous — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:42:56 -0800

Er, that is, substances you *choose* to inhale or ingest. I'm pretty sure that an anti-pollution stance is still consistent with Libertarianism.

By: bshort

bshort — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:33:34 -0800

delmoi - cut it out.

By: spaltavian

spaltavian — Sun, 01 Oct 2006 07:49:26 -0800

delmoi: You smack them around hard enough on the small stuff so they're too afraid to try the big stuff. The ubiquitous "meh" at the little outrages encourages the powers that be to aim higher.

By: wfc123

wfc123 — Sun, 01 Oct 2006 08:15:50 -0800

"'Libertarian'? What's that? Sounds like some new-fangled evil America-hating liberal. Let's git him."

By: wfc123

wfc123 — Sun, 01 Oct 2006 08:17:22 -0800

What are Libertarians, now that the Democrats are the new Republicans?

By: Football Bat

Football Bat — Sun, 01 Oct 2006 08:55:34 -0800

I'd just like to point out that the cover, apparently, for the International Libertarian is the Statue of Liberty screaming and holding an M-16 aloft. There, now I've done that.

By: davy

davy — Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:06:49 -0800

But look at this Libertarian guy's picture: he's got a shaved head and a big bushy beard -- he looks just like a TERRORIST! Unlike real American politicians! Compare: VS.