Comments on: Welcome to the music metaverse

Welcome to the music metaverse

bigmusic — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:41:06 -0800

Imagine a massively multiplayer music studio, connected worldwide over the Internet. Log in, and everyone sees a set of synths, effects, sequencers, or other custom patches. Everyone's looking at essentially the same screen, and can add beats, trip out effects, slide the bpm up and down, and reprogram synths — all at once. That's the basic idea of netpd.

By: bigmusic

bigmusic — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:41:21 -0800

Coralized: Imagine a massively multiplayer music studio, connected worldwide over the Internet. Log in, and everyone sees a set of synths, effects, sequencers, or other custom patches. Everyone's looking at essentially the same screen, and can add beats, trip out effects, slide the bpm up and down, and reprogram synths — all at once. That's the basic idea of netpd.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:49:13 -0800

That is an insanely awesome idea.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:58:02 -0800

Awesome, but it's been done - at least in concept - a few times already. (Future Sound of London's ISDN, for starters.) But I welcome the new tech. I'm tired of simply sending files/tracks back and forth between my now far-flung friends and editing them offline. People that make music together don't go to war against each other. However, there better be a vote and/or kickban option on servers. :)

By: loquacious

loquacious — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:59:33 -0800

People that make music together don't go to war against each other. Sorry, I should explicate this: Anything that enables people around the world to make music together is awesome. People that make music together don't go to war against each other.

By: InfidelZombie

InfidelZombie — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:12:00 -0800

People that make music together don't go to war against each other. You've never been in a band, have you? :)

By: lekvar

lekvar — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:23:01 -0800

Great, like my productivity could afford to take another hit. I'm so checking this out, I have a bunch of musician friends scattered hither and yon, this would make a great space for collaboration. The potential for live performance is interesting too...

By: lekvar

lekvar — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:24:23 -0800

And it's platform agnostic! *squeals*

By: BeerFilter

BeerFilter — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:54:54 -0800

Awesome post.

By: lekvar

lekvar — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:56:00 -0800

And eponysterical to boot.

By: quonsar

quonsar — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:48:49 -0800

an insanely awesome idea or you could just pull up some spikes, loosen some rail and listen to your very own train wreck.

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:53:01 -0800

Imagine a massive monkey, connected worldwide over the Internet. Log in, and everyone sees a simian: monkeys, or other customized primates. Everyone's looking at essentially the same face, and can add bananas, trip out effects, slide the beast up and down, and reprogram them — all at once. That's the basic idea of netpd. Sorry, I have nothing worthwhile to add.

By: zsazsa

zsazsa — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:23:55 -0800

loquacious, FSOL's ISDN was just broadcasting the audio from a live "concert" across digital phone lines to radio stations and a club. It was literally phoning in a performance. Netpd is actual online collaboration, based on Pure Data, which also is the basis of the rather popular Max/MSP. In the late 90s, Impulse Tracker had network collaboration, but I remember it never really working.

By: dozo

dozo — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:32:05 -0800

I thought the same thing, quonsar. Though it is a great idea. Anyone play Music Generator multiplayer? On the psx you could only get 4 people jamming together, but the PC version you could do this exact thing as well.

By: kid ichorous

kid ichorous — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:50:06 -0800

Nice post! CDM is a good blog. This definitely beats using MIDI to time-synch everything. Does anyone else dislike the flowchart style of PD / MAXMSP / Reaktor? Flows that could be neatly scripted with a FOR loop come out looking somewhere between Atari and the Minoan labyrinth. Patches quickly grow too dense and hairy to read. On the text front, CSound dates back to the 70s and clunks along with all the grace of assembler. It's also designed for off-line rendering, with real-time performance being more of an afterthought. Supercollider is more modern, but I've found very little documentation for it.

By: lupus_yonderboy

lupus_yonderboy — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:04:37 -0800

There's a heavy supercollider mailing list and you can get answers to a lot of your questions there.

By: kid ichorous

kid ichorous — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:13:49 -0800

Thanks Lupus

By: blastrid

blastrid — Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:48:17 -0800

Great concept, awful software. It's too bad, I woulda totally gotten into something like this, if it hadn't been so damn complicated. That and I'm angry I just stared at my computer screen moving at crawl speed due to pd. Thanks PD!

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:55:25 -0800

kid ichorous - you might want to look at chuck. It's an 'audio programming language for real-time synthesis, composition and performance'. I've only tinkered with it, and it's a bit flakey, but it's simple, and the way you can write new bits of code and throw them into the mix on the fly is fun, and it can be used for live collaboration too.

By: kid ichorous

kid ichorous — Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:02:43 -0800

Jack, I think I'd heard of ChucK before but never really looked into it. This looks perfect.