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	<title>Comments on: Wolf no longer beats Nuke? WTF!</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:06:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Wolf no longer beats Nuke? WTF!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF</link>	
		<description>He added to Rock, Paper, Scissors and came up with RPS-15 (with 15 signs) and then RPS-25 (yep, 25 signs).  Then he added on to &lt;em&gt;those&lt;/em&gt; games and made something &quot;so complex, I highly doubt anyone will actually even want to attempt to play it.&quot;

Dear lord, it&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.umop.com/rps101.htm&quot;&gt;RPS-101&lt;/a&gt;. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/45413&quot;&gt;Previously&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:40:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>23skidoo</dc:creator>		<category>rockpaperscissors</category>		<category>roshambo</category>		<category>OCD</category>
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		<title>By: aubilenon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476080</link>	
		<description>In some ways this is less awesome than RPS-25.  Two hand symboles?  Animated gestures?  &lt;i&gt;RIDICULOUS&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:06:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nebulawindphone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476086</link>	
		<description>Yeah, but the two-handed sign for &quot;toilet&quot; is priceless...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:15:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vacapinta</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476093</link>	
		<description>Yeah, this is an extension of what had been worked on before.

Has anyone done anything with N-player RPS? 

For example, 3-player RPS would require having a clear winner (and story) for any arbitary triad (rather than every combo). In RPS-5 for example there are 9 triads but as designed now (e.g. Spock-Scissors-Lizard) its a 3-way tie. Same with the original RPS-3.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:21:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: First Post</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476094</link>	
		<description>ANY tampering with the Holy Trinity of Rock, Paper, and Scissors falls well outside the canon and should be considered blasphemous.

Spock ears, dynamite, these multi-throw monstrosities mentioned here...they are all man&apos;s futile effort to avoid the TRVTH inherent in the power of the Three Sacred Throws.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:21:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>First Post</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: InnocentBystander</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476101</link>	
		<description>Can I just be the first to say:

SWEET MONKEY JESUS ON A POGO STICK!

This may be the single geekiest thing I have seen in MY ENTIRE LIFE.

And I say that as a measure of highest praise.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:23:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: loquacious</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476103</link>	
		<description>*performs full double-Rimmer salute and passes out*</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:25:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fenriq</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476114</link>	
		<description>Oh yeah, this was so needed because RPS wasn&apos;t working anymore. Next up? Tic-Tac-Toe in six dimensions with 8 different kinds of beans and a self destruct mechanism.

Or was it HopskotchCubed with poison puddles, deathchalk and hip checking?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:32:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kafziel</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476124</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Or was it HopskotchCubed with poison puddles, deathchalk and hip checking?&lt;/i&gt;

... wait, since when is hip checking not part of Hopscotch?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:40:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tumbleweedjack</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476135</link>	
		<description>My friends and I came up with a great RPS variant, &quot;Hunter, Hooker, Bear.&quot; You figure it out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:47:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: InfidelZombie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476139</link>	
		<description>Hooker eats Hunter, Hunter shoots (on) Hooker, Bear watches?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:53:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476179</link>	
		<description>RPS-101 is topical, too, as it has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.umop.com/rps101/25.htm&quot;&gt;Snake(s) on a Plane&lt;/a&gt; as a possible outcome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:23:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alvy Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476246</link>	
		<description>My mom and her sisters used to play &quot;Dog, Bone, Gun&quot; when they were kids.

Wierd, morbid kids.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:52:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PercussivePaul</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476283</link>	
		<description>I love how if you go all the way back to RPS 7 you can watch the madness evolve.

&quot;...and in case this isn&apos;t weird enough, try RPS-9 next...&quot;

&quot;.....Check out RPS-11 next...&quot;

&quot;...skip on ahead to the mental ward now, for RPS-15 still awaits...&quot;

&quot;...AND FINALLY, THE REAL MADNESS&quot;

which takes you to RPS 25, wherein he says: 
&quot;And just for the record, armed with accurate math for a change, I calculated over 4 SEPTQUARDRAGINTILLION possible layouts for a 5,050 outcome RPS-101 game! That&apos;s a 4 with 144 zeros, and it should be noted that a googol only has 100. Still think I wanna figure that game out, knowing it&apos;s 9.58e+125 (quardragintillion) more complex than a Rubik&apos;s cube? Or maybe you&apos;d just like to know where I&apos;m finding the actual names of all these big numbers? :o)

UPDATE 10/6/2006: I rose to the challenge, broke my promise of being done variating Rock-Paper-Scissors, and decided to totally GO FOR BROKE... &quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:27:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anything</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476330</link>	
		<description>I greatly miss the rock-paper-scissors &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~darse/rsbpc.html&quot;&gt;programming contest&lt;/a&gt;. Here&apos;s a highlight of the report from 2001 when it was last held:
&lt;blockquote&gt; Naturally, many of the entries in the second contest were modeled on &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ofb.net/~egnor/iocaine.html&quot;&gt;Iocaine Powder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Somewhat surprisingly, Dan Egnor&apos;s original program &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; finished third overall, despite the fact that everyone had access to documented source code, plus a nice description of the underlying ideas.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Sigh... I wonder how&apos;d good ol&apos; Iocaine Powder fare today.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:10:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anything</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Toecutter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476331</link>	
		<description>My kids totally do this on their own.  Pac-man.  Machinge gun.  The best is Black Hole -- but since it beats everything, that pretty much ends the game.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:11:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anything</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476364</link>	
		<description>Toecutter, I hope they won&apos;t discover the game of &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=23892&amp;cid=2584133&quot;&gt;tree-fluid&lt;/a&gt;. Now there&apos;s a time-waster.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:47:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anything</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: lalochezia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476390</link>	
		<description>What can I do-diddily-doodily-diddly-hobbily-hibbily-gobbily-gobbily-gobble-gabba-gabba-hey</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:27:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anything</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476395</link>	
		<description>Some kind of variant with reasonably different strengths between the various gestures would indeed be intriguing. The tendency to overlook the underdog could then be used against itself.

&lt;small&gt;&quot;Surely my nemesis &lt;em&gt;thinks&lt;/em&gt; I won&apos;t choose Pocket Lint...&quot;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:35:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anything</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Eideteker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476473</link>	
		<description>You&apos;ve got Devil and Satan. Duck and Bird. *throws the sign for redundancy he just made up and beats the entire RPS-101 system*

Seriously, if you&apos;re going to roll something this nerdy out to the nerdiverse, you&apos;d better check it for errors in continuity and cheap padding. The same nerds who are your audience are furious nitpickers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:36:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: b1tr0t</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476535</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m unimpressed.

I just invented RPS-1024, and it requires 10 fingers to play.

have fun!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:13:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: b1tr0t</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476536</link>	
		<description>[per person]</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:13:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stuporJIX</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476594</link>	
		<description>Eideteker, although Satan can be referred to as the Devil, devil can also mean a subordinate demon, so Satan and devil can indeed be different things. As for duck and bird, when I hear &quot;bird&quot;, I tend to think of ornithoids other than waterfowl, so let&apos;s give the kid a break!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:55:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: josher71</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476652</link>	
		<description>I must agree with First Post.  &lt;a href=&quot;null&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldrps.com/&quot;&gt;Please take a look at the real deal.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:42:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gorgor_balabala</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1476680</link>	
		<description>Am i missing something or could he have saved a lot of time making this chart blindfolded. I tend to think he just felt the need to pretend to vanquish septiquillion or whatever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:56:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RufusW</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55866/Wolf-no-longer-beats-Nuke-WTF#1477717</link>	
		<description>RPS has a huge student following.  Bath University RPS Society had 120 members one year...honestly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 23:46:27 -0800</pubDate>
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