Why is he in the news?
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He's a fricking United States Senator. Who the hell are you?
posted by mzurer at 6:42 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by mzurer at 6:42 PM on October 31, 2006
or 2000 even!
posted by Yer-Ol-Pal at 6:42 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by Yer-Ol-Pal at 6:42 PM on October 31, 2006
yeah I don't know why Tony Snow is always in the news either. He is a total annoying cockmiester.
posted by bluevelvetelvis at 6:43 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by bluevelvetelvis at 6:43 PM on October 31, 2006
Who the hell is this guy?
A distraction, it looks like.
Ah, Kerry, you magnificent fool.
posted by fishbulb at 6:47 PM on October 31, 2006
A distraction, it looks like.
Ah, Kerry, you magnificent fool.
posted by fishbulb at 6:47 PM on October 31, 2006
Just wondering at the timing of his comments, and the GOP response. I was wondering why we should give this guys' comments any consideration since he's been pretty silent lately. Heck, I've heard more about Gore in the past 6 months than Kerry. Why is he dominating newswaves all of a sudden?
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 6:49 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 6:49 PM on October 31, 2006
Indeed. Kerry has allowed himself to be the October Surprise. Bad enough he ruined his own election campaign with his hamfisted attempts at playing the media. Now he has to go and try to ruin the 2006 Democractic Congressional Campaigns to.
Child Abusing Republicans? Who cares, the Democrats still hate the troops!
posted by Joey Michaels at 6:49 PM on October 31, 2006
Child Abusing Republicans? Who cares, the Democrats still hate the troops!
posted by Joey Michaels at 6:49 PM on October 31, 2006
I'm sure the White House would rather talk about their wildly successful air safety initiatives.
posted by clevershark at 6:50 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by clevershark at 6:50 PM on October 31, 2006
Why is he dominating newswaves all of a sudden?
It's that damn liberal media.
posted by clevershark at 6:51 PM on October 31, 2006
It's that damn liberal media.
posted by clevershark at 6:51 PM on October 31, 2006
"I'm sick and tired of a bunch of despicable Republicans who will not debate real policy, who won't take responsibility for their own mistakes, standing up and trying to make other people the butt of those mistakes," he said. "It disgusts me that a bunch of these Republican hacks who've never worn the uniform of our country are willing to lie about those who did."Nice 2-year-old rebuttal, there, Kerry.
posted by verb at 6:52 PM on October 31, 2006
he's an idiot ... that's why i didn't vote for him ... (or the OTHER idiot in chief)
the only reason he figures in the equation is because people are awfully damn desperate ...
posted by pyramid termite at 6:53 PM on October 31, 2006
the only reason he figures in the equation is because people are awfully damn desperate ...
posted by pyramid termite at 6:53 PM on October 31, 2006
But Kerry refused to relent, calling the criticism part of the "classic GOP playbook."
"I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed-suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq."
He further expressed disgust with "Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country."
Kerry added that President Bush and Vice President Cheney "owe our troops an apology" because they "misled America into war."
Bush and Cheney "have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it," the senator said.
posted by caddis at 6:55 PM on October 31, 2006
"I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed-suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq."
He further expressed disgust with "Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country."
Kerry added that President Bush and Vice President Cheney "owe our troops an apology" because they "misled America into war."
Bush and Cheney "have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it," the senator said.
posted by caddis at 6:55 PM on October 31, 2006
The Democrats should lose next week. They don't seem to have a real strategy other than "we're not Bush!"
More importantly, it keeps the Republicians in FULL power as things dwindle outta control. They'll have no one to blame, but themselves come 2008.
If the Democrats get the House and/or Senate, they'll become the new whipping boys for everything that's gone wrong with this country and frankly, the Democrats don't seem smart to combat that.
I'd love to proven wrong about this, to see the Democrats get the House and/or Senate and make some meaningful changes.
And Kerry? Man up and be a statesman, if you can. We've got a enough senators and wanna be presidents. Shut and apologize and turn this potential negative into a positive.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:02 PM on October 31, 2006
More importantly, it keeps the Republicians in FULL power as things dwindle outta control. They'll have no one to blame, but themselves come 2008.
If the Democrats get the House and/or Senate, they'll become the new whipping boys for everything that's gone wrong with this country and frankly, the Democrats don't seem smart to combat that.
I'd love to proven wrong about this, to see the Democrats get the House and/or Senate and make some meaningful changes.
And Kerry? Man up and be a statesman, if you can. We've got a enough senators and wanna be presidents. Shut and apologize and turn this potential negative into a positive.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:02 PM on October 31, 2006
A bad joke or misconstrued statement or an ill advised phrpasing and the GOP jumped all over it to announce that Kerry (a war hero) hated our troops...and that would sell to the American voters except for one thing: the Bushies can not babble very much about Iraq, the one huge issue they have going against them.
posted by Postroad at 7:03 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by Postroad at 7:03 PM on October 31, 2006
Just go away, Kerry. You aren't helping any. Just set down and shut up.
I'm convinced he's a tool to make the Republicans look good. After all, he was in Skull and Crossbones with W. He went to the same college, in the same club and you're telling me he's not somehow on their side?
posted by nyxxxx at 7:03 PM on October 31, 2006
I'm convinced he's a tool to make the Republicans look good. After all, he was in Skull and Crossbones with W. He went to the same college, in the same club and you're telling me he's not somehow on their side?
posted by nyxxxx at 7:03 PM on October 31, 2006
John Kerry the big man, however many months late.
posted by fire&wings at 7:05 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by fire&wings at 7:05 PM on October 31, 2006
I was wondering why we should give this guys' comments any consideration since he's been pretty silent lately.
You posted this story to MetaFilter because you think it doesn't merit attention? *scratches head*
posted by brain_drain at 7:13 PM on October 31, 2006
You posted this story to MetaFilter because you think it doesn't merit attention? *scratches head*
posted by brain_drain at 7:13 PM on October 31, 2006
There's a lot of stuff that gets front post news coverage and linked to Metafilter that I don't think merit's attention. This is just one of them. Much like sideburn guides and beedogs. But next time I'll post more on the beedogs side just for you. In the mean time, we have an election comming up that has very drastic possible outcomes for either side. I wonder why Kerry decided to enter the fray again, Especially after those Swift Boat guys finally quit following him to Blockbuster to bust on his choice of movies.
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 7:21 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 7:21 PM on October 31, 2006
More importantly, it keeps the Republicians in FULL power as things dwindle outta control. They'll have no one to blame, but themselves
They've had FULL power for the better part of a decade now, and pick your debacle, that's never stopped them from trying. Blamestorming is about the only thing they're actually good at.
Doncha know the WMD debacle was "bad intelligence" from the CIA? And golly, things would be going swimmingly in Iraq if our troops weren't so demoralized (and the enemy so emboldened) by domestic critics and the liberal media not sharing the all the swell news. Abu Ghraib, hey -- a few bad apples, nothing more. The Katrina debacle, that was Ray Nagin's fault. Blanco's too. Those record setting deficits are due to 9/11! And 9/11 (of course) was Clinton's fault.
I call it "pin the blame on the donkey". I suspect that in just about a week, the GOP will be playing a new party game -- "musical chairs", a game of who's left without a seat when the music stops.
posted by edverb at 7:21 PM on October 31, 2006
They've had FULL power for the better part of a decade now, and pick your debacle, that's never stopped them from trying. Blamestorming is about the only thing they're actually good at.
Doncha know the WMD debacle was "bad intelligence" from the CIA? And golly, things would be going swimmingly in Iraq if our troops weren't so demoralized (and the enemy so emboldened) by domestic critics and the liberal media not sharing the all the swell news. Abu Ghraib, hey -- a few bad apples, nothing more. The Katrina debacle, that was Ray Nagin's fault. Blanco's too. Those record setting deficits are due to 9/11! And 9/11 (of course) was Clinton's fault.
I call it "pin the blame on the donkey". I suspect that in just about a week, the GOP will be playing a new party game -- "musical chairs", a game of who's left without a seat when the music stops.
posted by edverb at 7:21 PM on October 31, 2006
Child Abusing Republicans? Who cares, the Democrats still hate the troops!
I'd have a hard time to believe that this alone would flip the election -- or maybe I'm not appreciating of the American electorate to its fullest.
posted by NewBornHippy at 7:27 PM on October 31, 2006
I'd have a hard time to believe that this alone would flip the election -- or maybe I'm not appreciating of the American electorate to its fullest.
posted by NewBornHippy at 7:27 PM on October 31, 2006
shnoz-gobblin writes "There's a lot of stuff that gets front post news coverage and linked to Metafilter that I don't think merit's attention. This is just one of them. Much like sideburn guides and beedogs. But next time I'll post more on the beedogs side just for you."
How about not posting anything that you believe should not be posted? Go with those instincts, man.
posted by mr_roboto at 7:35 PM on October 31, 2006
How about not posting anything that you believe should not be posted? Go with those instincts, man.
posted by mr_roboto at 7:35 PM on October 31, 2006
OK, I'll put it this way.
I AM interested in this election.
I AM interested in who will come out on top.
I AM interested in WHY John Kerry decided to stick his big fat nose back into a hornet's nest that he's already been stung from.
I Am interested in Metafilter's response to current events.
I'm not really interested in what Kerry has to say on the subject. He had his time to shine, and flopped like a grounded trouser trout.
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 7:40 PM on October 31, 2006
I AM interested in this election.
I AM interested in who will come out on top.
I AM interested in WHY John Kerry decided to stick his big fat nose back into a hornet's nest that he's already been stung from.
I Am interested in Metafilter's response to current events.
I'm not really interested in what Kerry has to say on the subject. He had his time to shine, and flopped like a grounded trouser trout.
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 7:40 PM on October 31, 2006
I'm not really interested in what Kerry has to say on the subject. He had his time to shine, and flopped like a grounded trouser trout.
posted by shnoz-gobblin
If he didn't throw the 2004 election, he's past his Peter Princple Peak. If he'd run his boat like he runs his mouth, I'd never have heard of him. He'd just be some pictures and medals on his momma's wall.
posted by taosbat at 7:45 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by shnoz-gobblin
If he didn't throw the 2004 election, he's past his Peter Princple Peak. If he'd run his boat like he runs his mouth, I'd never have heard of him. He'd just be some pictures and medals on his momma's wall.
posted by taosbat at 7:45 PM on October 31, 2006
Not a bad year overall. DeLay's out. Santorum is on the way out. Abramoff went down, and it looks like he'll be taking many others with him (I keep waiting for the Norquist perp walk). There's still a lot of gutter-cleaning to do, but we should all just be patient.
It's looking like the Republicans are going to get their 1994 handed back to them. Kerry soundbites, good ones or bad, are a 'comma.' If you don't believe me check back in about a week.
posted by mullingitover at 7:47 PM on October 31, 2006 [1 favorite]
It's looking like the Republicans are going to get their 1994 handed back to them. Kerry soundbites, good ones or bad, are a 'comma.' If you don't believe me check back in about a week.
posted by mullingitover at 7:47 PM on October 31, 2006 [1 favorite]
Two sides of the same game. Democrat. Republican. Don't make no difference. They're playing us, and this month we'll be singing, just like caged birds do.
posted by ZachsMind at 7:48 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by ZachsMind at 7:48 PM on October 31, 2006
Pooh-pooh the messenger and blithely dismiss his timing all you like, but I don't see anyone saying he isn't right about this stuff. And a Democrat showing a little backbone is better than no Democrats showing backbone, right? Which is what we've had since whassisface left office.
How many more Democrats saying this stuff do you need before you stop waving all this stuff off as a bunch of has-beens & never-wases talking out of their asses?
He apologized for garbling the punchline, but not for the sentiment behind it. And he stayed on the attack. Yes, it's two years too late for him, but if he can show some other candidate how to actually fight like a liberal, then it can only help his party get off the schneid two years from now.
This John Kerry would have gotten a lot more votes in aught-four, and I think he knows it, and is maybe trying to do what he can in the present tense. For that (and maybe only for that), yay him.
posted by chicobangs at 7:50 PM on October 31, 2006
How many more Democrats saying this stuff do you need before you stop waving all this stuff off as a bunch of has-beens & never-wases talking out of their asses?
He apologized for garbling the punchline, but not for the sentiment behind it. And he stayed on the attack. Yes, it's two years too late for him, but if he can show some other candidate how to actually fight like a liberal, then it can only help his party get off the schneid two years from now.
This John Kerry would have gotten a lot more votes in aught-four, and I think he knows it, and is maybe trying to do what he can in the present tense. For that (and maybe only for that), yay him.
posted by chicobangs at 7:50 PM on October 31, 2006
Anyone who thinks Kerry's remarks are going to make one bit of difference either way, in any precinct anywhere in the country on November 7, is a certifiable idiot. Quit whining. If this is enough to get your dander up, go find a candidate to phone-bank for.
posted by aaronetc at 7:53 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by aaronetc at 7:53 PM on October 31, 2006
If you're going to lose an election to George W. Bush without even having the decency to win the popular vote, then you're going to have to shut up afterward.
And besides, maybe if you'd have shown some balls two years ago, instead of letting the right wingers spooge you like an old sock EVERY FRIGGIN' DAY, we wouldn't be in this mess right now, John.
posted by JWright at 7:54 PM on October 31, 2006
And besides, maybe if you'd have shown some balls two years ago, instead of letting the right wingers spooge you like an old sock EVERY FRIGGIN' DAY, we wouldn't be in this mess right now, John.
posted by JWright at 7:54 PM on October 31, 2006
spooge you like an old sock EVERY FRIGGIN' DAY
Too much info.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:58 PM on October 31, 2006
Too much info.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:58 PM on October 31, 2006
They don't seem to have a real strategy other than "we're not Bush!"
Works for me.
posted by Nathanial Hörnblowér at 8:00 PM on October 31, 2006
Works for me.
posted by Nathanial Hörnblowér at 8:00 PM on October 31, 2006
Frankly now that the media IS paying attention to what he's saying Kerry might as well stay in attack mode. Just as long as he watches what he's saying and makes sure he doesn't skip any words when trying to take a jab at the GOP -- "getting us stuck in a war in Iraq" is not almost as good as "getting stuck in a war in Iraq", for instance.
posted by clevershark at 8:02 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by clevershark at 8:02 PM on October 31, 2006
John Kerry is such an inept politician. How did he ever get elected to anything?
posted by neuron at 8:02 PM on October 31, 2006
posted by neuron at 8:02 PM on October 31, 2006
Pooh-pooh the messenger and blithely dismiss his timing all you like, but I don't see anyone saying he isn't right about this stuff.
right about what? ... if you don't go to school you get "stuck in iraq"? ... it was a moronic statement ... it would have been moronic even if he'd said it right, because he went to the same damn college george did
and remember, he VOTED to authorize this mess, so he doesn't get to claim he's "right" ...
posted by pyramid termite at 8:06 PM on October 31, 2006
right about what? ... if you don't go to school you get "stuck in iraq"? ... it was a moronic statement ... it would have been moronic even if he'd said it right, because he went to the same damn college george did
and remember, he VOTED to authorize this mess, so he doesn't get to claim he's "right" ...
posted by pyramid termite at 8:06 PM on October 31, 2006
This is a perfect example of the minor political news that we don't need posted here.
posted by gsteff at 8:17 PM on October 31, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by gsteff at 8:17 PM on October 31, 2006 [1 favorite]
Bingo. If Democrats say nothing, they're weak pansy liberals. If they actually fight back, they're scary and angry. I saw if you damned either way, at least go out fighting.
The problem with giving the Republicans 2 more years of unchecked power is the possibility that they might do things so awful and wrongheaded that they can't be undone. The USA isn't immortal - poke it enough times or mismanage it badly enough and it'll die, just like innumerable major empires through history.
posted by 1adam12 at 8:19 PM on October 31, 2006
The problem with giving the Republicans 2 more years of unchecked power is the possibility that they might do things so awful and wrongheaded that they can't be undone. The USA isn't immortal - poke it enough times or mismanage it badly enough and it'll die, just like innumerable major empires through history.
posted by 1adam12 at 8:19 PM on October 31, 2006
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