Comments on: Aleister Crowley in drag = Barbara Bush

Aleister Crowley in drag = Barbara Bush

anticlock — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:40:20 -0800

Aleister Crowley, grandfather of George W. Bush? Well, obviously.
In late 1924, Pauline Pierce, Frank Harris, Nellie O'Hara, and Aleister Crowley get together in France and experience "Eroto-Comotose Lucidity." Afterwards Pauline Pierce returns to the states. In June 1925, Pauline Pierce gives birth to a daughter, Barbara.
Also, and again.

By: anticlock

anticlock — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:41:22 -0800

I think DNA tests are in order. While I'm at it, Candy Crowley.

By: Item

Item — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:47:56 -0800

In other news, Adolph Hitler was the grandfather of Cillian Murphy. I read about it in a blog, so it's probably true.

By: Balisong

Balisong — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:47:59 -0800

Well, Bush certianly has embraced Crowley's mantra: "To Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law."

By: snsranch

snsranch — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:49:19 -0800

The photos here are uncanny. This is another reason to love Ozzy, apparent bringer of the apocolypse. Foreteller? Whatever. Nice post!

By: caddis

caddis — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:51:53 -0800

By: Heywood Mogroot

Heywood Mogroot — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:53:54 -0800

So I guess W is in fact the antichrist.

By: bardic

bardic — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:55:12 -0800

Is Candy Crowley related to Aleister? She'd still be one of the few MSM journalists I respect, but wow. Never thought of that.

By: gubo

gubo — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:06:31 -0800

Wow, this is fun. Here's Pauline's husband Marvin Pierce for comparison.

By: Paris Hilton

Paris Hilton — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:06:44 -0800

Man, it's kind of creepy how the Bushes keep naming eachother after themselves.

By: dirtynumbangelboy

dirtynumbangelboy — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:24:51 -0800

Balisong writes "Well, Bush certianly has embraced Crowley's mantra: 'To Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law.'" I'm guessing you know what the actual text is? "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the Law, love under Will."

By: Falconetti

Falconetti — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:31:20 -0800

si non e vero, e ben trovato

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:41:35 -0800

I had no idea Dubya's favorite Coil remix was Tainted Love. Color me impressed.

By: Kickstart70

Kickstart70 — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:06:00 -0800

'To Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law.' I think he got it all mixed up: 'Thou shall be the wilt of the whole of the law'

By: absalom

absalom — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:08:49 -0800

Since we're being pedantic, bangel, that's not the quote either. Book of Law, Chapter 1, Verse 40 40. Who calls us Thelemites will do no wrong, if he look but close into the word. For there are therein Three Grades, the Hermit, and the Lover, and the man of Earth. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. (Emphasis mine) End verse. The second part of your quote comes from 1:40: 57. Invoke me under my stars! Love is the law, love under will. Nor let the fools mistake love; for there are love and love. There is the dove, and there is the serpent. Choose ye well! He, my prophet, hath chosen, knowing the law of the fortress, and the great mystery of the House of God. (Emphasis Mine) Guess your overall point is unchanged.

By: snarfodox

snarfodox — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:11:07 -0800

I desperately want this to be true... so much so that I think I'm beginning to understand how the theist brain works.

By: Melinika

Melinika — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:20:33 -0800

Too bad the article was posted April 1st.

By: dejah420

dejah420 — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:25:56 -0800

Man, this theory is even better than David Icke's theory about Bush and the Lizard People. I'm with snarfodox; I want to believe.

By: pantufla

pantufla — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:28:16 -0800

Interesting, but is there any reason (beyond entertainment) to think that "sex magick" could be a cause behind the W disaster as opposed to corruption, dysfunctional parenting, an inherited place in the halls of power, unacknowledged alcoholism, and a comatose electorate? When faced with such a vortex of incompetence and destructive power as W and his administration, it is tempting to look for supernatural causes, but I'm afraid that a quick read of the bush family history is an adequate explanation. However, I do think W can be fairly described as the "Great Beast". : )

By: moss

moss — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:30:37 -0800

As long as we're being pedantic about the "do what thou wilt" thing, can I just take a moment to wonder why it's so strongly associated with Crowley, when he just borrowed it from St. Augustine, possibly by way of Rabelais?

By: clevershark

clevershark — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:32:15 -0800

All this time I just thought that W was a silly sod with a famous dad and an unexplainably thick rolodex who was a member of an influential frat. But apparently his success is due to some weird metaphysical deal with the devil on his mom's side! It all makes so much more sense. Thanks Metafilter!

By: dirtynumbangelboy

dirtynumbangelboy — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:33:46 -0800

moss writes "As long as we're being pedantic about the 'do what thou wilt' thing, can I just take a moment to wonder why it's so strongly associated with Crowley, when he just borrowed it from St. Augustine, possibly by way of Rabelais?" "Look," said Ford, "Property is theft, right? Therefore theft is property." absalom writes "Guess your overall point is unchanged." Fair enough. Every Thelemite I know references it as I did above, however. (And yes, clearly, they shouldn't be quoting it at all, but what can you do?)

By: owhydididoit

owhydididoit — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:38:53 -0800

Too bad the article was posted April 1st. Coincidence. Look at the pictures!

By: Steven C. Den Beste

Steven C. Den Beste — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:55:35 -0800

Even if the claim was true, it wouldn't mean that Crowley was the grandfather of President Bush. It would mean that Crowley was the grandfather of President Bush's wife. Aleister Crowley, grandfather of George W. Bush? Well, no. Not even close.

By: Doohickie

Doohickie — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:03:08 -0800

Best of the net? ?

By: 2sheets

2sheets — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:06:04 -0800

"It would mean that Crowley was the grandfather of President Bush's wife." Barbara Bush is his mom, dumbass.

By: uosuaq

uosuaq — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:06:28 -0800

So, what, Bush has an excuse for being a sociopath? What about the rest of the Republican party, then?

By: justkevin

justkevin — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:08:43 -0800

Even if the claim was true, it wouldn't mean that Crowley was the grandfather of President Bush. It would mean that Crowley was the grandfather of President Bush's wife. The current President Bush is the son of Barbara bush.

By: porpoise

porpoise — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:14:13 -0800

Heywood Mogroot - "So I guess W is in fact the antichrist. What?! So Dubya's going to be the next pope?

By: clevershark

clevershark — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:20:53 -0800

porpoise opines "What?! So Dubya's going to be the next pope?" I was not aware that a replacement for Palpatine had been chosen so soon.

By: rob511

rob511 — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:29:59 -0800

In this case, the swine predated the pearls.

By: Mental Wimp

Mental Wimp — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:48:52 -0800

Bet we don't here from SCDB again on this thread.

By: keswick

keswick — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:05:34 -0800

I was not aware that a replacement for Palpatine had been chosen so soon. His overconfidence is his weakness.

By: anticlock

anticlock — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:12:42 -0800

Too bad the article was posted April 1st. I saw that. But what an idea! Would have made a great October surprise. *Just a little election-eve tongue in cheek*

By: Balisong

Balisong — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:25:52 -0800

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the Law, love under Will." Only liberal, hippie Thelemites I know combine those two statements. Damn liberal, hippie Thelemites!

By: Balisong

Balisong — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:42:27 -0800

* "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" * "Love is the law, love under will" * "There is no Law beyond Do what thou wilt" Crowley wrote that the Law is not a license to indulge in casual whim or to mindlessly accept cultural mores, but is rather a mandate to discover and manifest one's True Will, which he described as one's inner divine nature, spiritual destiny, or proper course in life. Well, OK. Bush used it as a license to indulge in casual whim. I think I have more books by and about Crowley than any other subject in my life.

By: Steven C. Den Beste

Steven C. Den Beste — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:50:49 -0800

Barbara Bush is his mom, dumbass. I stand corrected.

By: mediareport

mediareport — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:21:25 -0800

Is Aleister Crowley the father of Barbara Bush? Even she may not know for certain; indeed, I have no way of knowing whether she has ever been told that this possibility exists. What a hoot; it's a spot-on parody of itself, what with all that "one should not discount the possibility" and "I leave the matter for the reader to decide" and such. Wonderful satire. (er, it is satire, isn't it?)

By: Faint of Butt

Faint of Butt — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:14:01 -0800

I want to believe.

By: Grangousier

Grangousier — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 04:16:35 -0800

It would be almost as interesting if Mrs Bush were the daughter of Frank Harris, the infamous liar and fantasist, though I don't know whether that sort of thing is hereditary.

By: micayetoca

micayetoca — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 04:38:39 -0800

Kinda gives a whole new meaning to that "Smells like sulphur in here" phrase, doesn't it?

By: A_Dollar_Three_Eighty

A_Dollar_Three_Eighty — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:31:02 -0800

Does anybody remember, in one of Robert Anton Wilson's books from the 80's, he referred to the Antichrist more than once as GWB (Great White Beast) 666? I can't remember if that particular Antichrist was the U.S. President or not...but it seemed like a weird little connection to me when the current GWB took office. The Crowley angle seems too perfect to be true, but it does make for an even better synchronicity.

By: rough ashlar

rough ashlar — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:53:28 -0800

I was wondering when this would make the blue....seen it some 2 years ago. Unlike many claims, this one is testable, and anyone who would be emotionally harmed by being 'cheated on' is dead. So why not 'prove it wrong'? Next up on Metafilter - How Robert Kennedy Jr's magazine George is named after the killer of his father *drum roll* George HW Bush and how the present George had him killed. Should be a fun time. What with links to the statement in a court somewhere 'I've got 300 billion to bury you with', all the books on the JFK murder, et la.

By: graymouser

graymouser — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:55:09 -0800

Tommy Flannagan told me he's really Bush's granddaddy. Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket...

By: zaelic

zaelic — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 06:29:49 -0800

From the Rigorous Intuition site, which is a well written and thought out blog which focuses on the connected phenomena of conspiracy theories and politics: In The Occult, Colin Wilson writes that Crowley "had almost no capacity for natural affection. It is this that makes him a 'monster.'" The metaphysics and the sex magick were not beside the point, but they were another point. It's by his profound lack of charity that we can rightly call Crowley Satanic, and his conduct on the slopes of Kanchenjunga was a magnificent example. As was George Bush's contemptuous behaviour during Katrina, eating cake and strumming a guitar while the poor of New Orleans were purged. Or his mocking of Karla Faye Tucker, and his sniggered lynch joke before Coretta Scott King. It's in the way all of these people smile when they speak of tragedy, and use the sufferings of others for their own political alchemy. (That the tortures of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay quickly took on aspects of ritual sexual abuse are not tricks of the light.)

By: WoWgmr72

WoWgmr72 — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:27:43 -0800

This actually explains many things. Now that we know Bush is, in fact, the Antichrist prophesied in scripture, I think more people will be getting behind the idea of impeaching him. High crimes and misdemeanors? Forget about that. This guy has the blood of Satan running through his veins. Surely that's worse than screwing your intern.

By: jamjam

jamjam — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:15:23 -0800

This is making my skull creak. It's like The Da Vinci Code as re-imagined by Hieronymous Bosch. Since none of the parties involved are likely to offer up their DNA for our delectation, I wonder how hard it would be to produce an algorithm to estimate probabilities of paternity from analysis of photographs.

By: rough ashlar

rough ashlar — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:45:23 -0800

Blood of satan you say? create a "world government" dictatorship run by the central bankers dedicated to Lucifer. If the good religious right can't be rid of the bankers....why would they be rid of the granddaddy O satan?

By: rough ashlar

rough ashlar — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:48:44 -0800

Since none of the parties involved are likely to offer up their DNA for our delectation, But they do use tissues and other disposible items. Leave hair samples behind in hotels or even public venues. A DNA scavenger hunt! What fun! (to watch)

By: Smedleyman

Smedleyman — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:54 -0800

Hmmm.... Yeah, but Crowley was smart. He could play chess. N'Stuff.

By: solipse

solipse — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:50:20 -0800

It's by his profound lack of charity that we can rightly call Crowley Satanic, and his conduct on the slopes of Kanchenjunga was a magnificent example. So a bunch of guys get into an arguement with Crowley on the side of a mountain, then die in an avalanche a few hours later while he broods in his tent? That is some pretty badass sorcery. That Rigorous Intuition link is a good one, thanks.

By: lodurr

lodurr — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:34:51 -0800

justkevin: The current President Bush... ... STOP RIGHT THERE! Cut. Print. Now you get the joke.

By: lodurr

lodurr — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:38:13 -0800

...Marvin Pierce... I dunno; she has his eyebrows...

By: pleeker

pleeker — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:48:46 -0800

I wonder how Jimmy Page is going to take this?

By: mecran01

mecran01 — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:17:40 -0800

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4927/808379766mvl5.gif More stunning visual proof!

By: mecran01

mecran01 — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:18:19 -0800

More stunning visual proof?!

By: CCBC

CCBC — Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:18:02 -0800

Stop the presses! Barbara's grandson (via Neil) is Pierce Bush! And here he is interviewed by *drumroll* Candy Crowley! (At the bottom, after the confrontation between Brent Bozell and The Rock and other good things.)

By: lodurr

lodurr — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:40:56 -0800

We're all having a good laugh and all, but what I want to know is how we can spread this ~~urban legend~~ important news far and wide. America needs to know. Dammit.