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50 cent disses Oprah...says chat show host is insufficiently "street".
posted by Artw (70 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

 
Ice cube joins the fight.
posted by Artw at 9:10 PM on December 5, 2006


Date of first link: April 28, 2006.
Date of second link: May 27, 2006.

I'm pretty sure even people who don't follow hip hop knew about this one. If you're gonna do newsfilter, at least do recent newsfilter.
posted by CRM114 at 9:12 PM on December 5, 2006


Those guys are playing with fire. Oprah will have them killed before they know what's happening. Just look what she did to Dave Chappell!
posted by Pollomacho at 9:13 PM on December 5, 2006


I didn't know about it. And lemme tell you, I'm glad that I do now. Pure gold.
posted by verb at 9:13 PM on December 5, 2006


insufficiently "street"

Sounds like a compliment to me.
posted by eustacescrubb at 9:15 PM on December 5, 2006


CRM - I should have checked my dates, here's something more recent...

Saturday, December 2 2006: He's at it again
posted by Artw at 9:18 PM on December 5, 2006


From Wikipedia:

Although Winfrey's show is known for raising money through her public charity and the cars and gifts she gives away on TV are often donated by corporations in exchange for publicity, behind the scenes Winfrey personally donates more of her own money to charity than any other show business celebrity in America. In 2005 she became the first black person listed by Business Week as one of America's top 50 most generous philanthropists, having given an estimated $250 million. Despite being the 235th richest American in 2005, Winfrey was the 32nd most philanthropic. Her philanthropy includes girls' education in South Africa and a $10 million donation to Hurricane Katrina relief. Winfrey also put 100 black men through college with $7 million in scholarships.

Sounds like she's got a hate on for black folk, that's for sure.
posted by jimmythefish at 9:21 PM on December 5, 2006


Imagine that.
You write songs about how women exist solely for your sexual gratification, in which the word "bitch" effectively means "woman", in which violence against women is not only condoned but endorsed, and then you wonder why a female host of a talk-show for and about women has problems with you?
posted by nightchrome at 9:22 PM on December 5, 2006


And futhermore (I'm sorry Artw, you've got my back up for some reason), I think the tone of the headline is just a touch condescending. At no point does 50 say that Oprah's show is "insufficiently 'street'", but he does rather intelligently point out that he and Oprah are going after different demographics: "Oprah's audience is my audience's parents. So, I could care less about Oprah or her show."
posted by CRM114 at 9:22 PM on December 5, 2006


He says a little more than that. "Oprah started out with black women's views but has been catering to middle-aged white American women for so long that she's become one herself"

I beleive what he's saying there is that she's not "keeping it real" with the "homies" from the "hood".
posted by Artw at 9:26 PM on December 5, 2006


Bitch ain't keepin it real!
posted by anthill at 9:30 PM on December 5, 2006


I am apparently insufficiently street to have known about it until now.
posted by Bugbread at 9:31 PM on December 5, 2006


there are some interesting rappers that oprah could have on her show, but he is not one of them.

not that any of his whining matters. i'm guessing the fifty billion or so people that worship the ground oprah walks on will care very little what this guy has to say.
posted by weretable and the undead chairs at 9:31 PM on December 5, 2006


As if 60% of Fiddy's record sales don't come for white kids in the suburbs.
posted by PenDevil at 9:31 PM on December 5, 2006


ugh... "come from"
posted by PenDevil at 9:32 PM on December 5, 2006


Didn't know about it, and it was worth it for this sentence alone:

But, as 50 Cent said, Winfrey's purported disapproval might enhance a rap star's street cred.

That is a marvelous line. It even rhymes.
posted by gompa at 9:32 PM on December 5, 2006


Hmm - remember Jonathan Franzen?

1) Diss Oprah's Book Club
2) ?????
3) one of the best-selling works of literary fiction of the 21st century
posted by forallmankind at 9:41 PM on December 5, 2006


Wait... 50 Cent is black?
posted by trip and a half at 9:49 PM on December 5, 2006


This is like that Disney vs. the Baptists beef from a few years back; I don't know who the hell to root for.
posted by The Card Cheat at 9:49 PM on December 5, 2006


How about I toss this one out -- it's all manufactured PR, and both 50 cent and Oprah win. Whatever gets some names out on the street, you know, regardless of what street we're talking about.
posted by calhound at 9:50 PM on December 5, 2006


Plus, Oprah's only been shot, like, 4 times.
posted by jimmythefish at 9:50 PM on December 5, 2006


50 Cent: "I think that the violence that happened to Proof and the violence that's happening across America right now has nothing to do with hip-hop," he said. "It has something to do with the people — the state of them — and the music doesn't alter that."

Rap music might not be a cause of violence in America, but it certainly has some influence on misogyny and gun ownership.
posted by tehloki at 9:52 PM on December 5, 2006


Wait... 50 Cent is black?

Black, white... it doesn't matter. 50 Cent is marketable. 50 Cent is a parody.
posted by namespan at 9:59 PM on December 5, 2006


tehloki,

I wonder what you think the influence rap has on misogny and gun ownership is. I am not saying you are wrong, but curius to know how you mean it?
posted by Mentallo The Brain God at 10:31 PM on December 5, 2006


Oprah is still alive? I though that Cruise character killed her ....
posted by IronLizard at 10:47 PM on December 5, 2006


Nah, she aint street no mo.

I was there when she had to pull tha train. Now I aint the fattest dog they be but when I bent here over she was too loos. Bros were bichin about hotdogs down hallways and there bein no point. We had better time humpin air.

So we ran her out and the bich starts gettin all smart like and doin media shit and we just bangin without her and she starttalkin us down on tv and gettin all uppity like we be bad guys and she forget when we had her over that deuce.

She just pissd we didnt bang her in proper.
posted by sourwookie at 11:55 PM on December 5, 2006


Despite being the 235th richest American in 2005, Winfrey was the 32nd most philanthropic.

That is actually very impressive. Given the way income distribution graphs go, even for the very rich, the 32nd richest American probably has 5-10x more money than the 235th. Unless they are ranking based on a rate..
posted by Chuckles at 12:11 AM on December 6, 2006


Black, white... it doesn't matter. 50 Cent is marketable. 50 Cent is a parody.

I saw "50 Cent" spray painted on a wall in a tiny, remote village in Syria.
posted by Pollomacho at 12:23 AM on December 6, 2006


Why the heck would anyone want to be "street" instead of the 235th richest, 32nd most philanthropic, a true original and valued by millions of people?

And I don't watch the show. Or any tv for that matter. So, some trash-man thinks she's not cool? Yeah. Okay.

(I did watch it sometimes, centuries ago when it was first on the air.)
posted by Listener at 12:29 AM on December 6, 2006


Shoot.
Okay, in the first linked item, he says: "Oprah's audience is my audience's parents," the 29-year-old rapper said. "So, I could care less about Oprah or her show."

Yeah, so what was that about the community again? Sheesh. Loo-hooser. (50 cent, not any poster here.)
posted by Listener at 12:30 AM on December 6, 2006


I saw "50 cent" scribbled on a tattered card, resting atop some pawpaws at a fruit stall in Colombo. Weirdest thing was, though, that's how much a pawpaw cost!
posted by bunglin jones at 12:40 AM on December 6, 2006 [1 favorite]


I've seen a possum eating an unripe paw-paw before. He looked like it was killing him, yet he just couldn't stop eating it.
posted by Pollomacho at 12:50 AM on December 6, 2006 [3 favorites]


Didn't some idiot here on MeFi list Oprah as "one of the worst things America had given to the world" in a thread about the worst things America has given to th world? Oh Lordy. When was that?

Yes. I remember. I was her sole defender in that thread.

So. Where the hell were all of you Oprah lovers then?

Oh. And that $250 million dollars she gave away? I think the popular MeFi response was:

"It's, like, all hype, man... like, don't believe the hype..."
posted by tkchrist at 12:54 AM on December 6, 2006 [2 favorites]


50 Cent will loosen up after he goes on a date or two with Roger Ebert.

If I could post images, I'd totally do a bad photoshop of this picture.

That would be Fiddy's Emmy.
posted by sparkletone at 1:25 AM on December 6, 2006


The man be keepin' it real, yo.
posted by ReiToei at 2:11 AM on December 6, 2006


Mmmmmmmmmm, oreos.
posted by fixedgear at 2:40 AM on December 6, 2006


In related news, so called "celebrities" like any kind of advertisement..this just in : what did any celebrity recently do for you directly ?
posted by elpapacito at 2:48 AM on December 6, 2006


The best review I heard of him was "50 Cents, about half as good as Dollar".

He's very popular with 8 - 12 year old boys in the posher parts of Brussels, I'm reliably informed. not so much street as avenue de bois
posted by quarsan at 3:04 AM on December 6, 2006


I've seen a possum eating an unripe paw-paw before.

i've seen a possum that was run over by a car ... he was street all over
posted by pyramid termite at 4:29 AM on December 6, 2006 [1 favorite]


Let me sum this up...


"who the fuck cares?"
posted by HuronBob at 5:40 AM on December 6, 2006


"I think she caters to older white women." ... "Oprah's audience is my audience's parents," the 29-year-old rapper said. "So, I could care less about Oprah or her show."

later, at the batcave...

... young people who listen to rap music are more prone to alcohol and drug use and aggressive behavior. But 50's not buying it. He points a finger at parents, who he thinks should explain to their children that his music is a form of entertainment, not a license to break the law.

I know which finger he's pointing.
posted by carsonb at 6:04 AM on December 6, 2006


"I think she caters to older white women."

"Oprah's audience is my audience's parents," the 29-year-old rapper said. "So, I could care less about Oprah or her show."


^
|
(tacit admission that his audience is rich white adolescent boys...)
posted by koeselitz at 6:20 AM on December 6, 2006 [2 favorites]


she's a talk-show host. she's not supposed to be 'street.' she's supposed to be 'couch.' or if she's especially good, 'coffee table.'
posted by jonmc at 6:27 AM on December 6, 2006


I recently had to call out the Dauphin for being insufficiently boulevard. No one likes to take on the son of Le Roi, but here in the glittery shit streaked halls of Versailles one must simply stay rich or die tryin'.
posted by Divine_Wino at 7:07 AM on December 6, 2006 [7 favorites]


I'm also offended that Oprah is insufficiently sidewalk.
posted by Astro Zombie at 7:12 AM on December 6, 2006


None of y'all are footpath enough to hang with me.
posted by jonmc at 7:25 AM on December 6, 2006


And he's got so much street cred, as in the high street in Monte Carlo, right?
posted by pleeker at 8:36 AM on December 6, 2006


I'm also offended that Oprah is insufficiently sidewalk.

That ain't nuthin dude. She ain't even stoop. I heard she was foyer, but only if it's one a them big "lawyer foyers" like in a exurban McMansion an' shizzit. And uppity bee-yatch be pronouncin' it foy-yaaaayyy. Like she European or some shit.
posted by gompa at 8:53 AM on December 6, 2006


I recently had to call out the Dauphin for being insufficiently boulevard.

Magnificent.
posted by rifflesby at 8:55 AM on December 6, 2006


I heard she was foyer

It's worse than all that, cuz. That skeeze ain't even foy-ay. She cul-de-sac, yo.
posted by jonmc at 8:57 AM on December 6, 2006


Myself, I'm Indian Hunting Trail, man. I'm beyond Old, into Prehistoric School, homeslice.
posted by jonmc at 9:02 AM on December 6, 2006


50 cents can take his two cents and go fuck a parking meter.
posted by Skygazer at 9:37 AM on December 6, 2006


Cent....cent...I mean to write CENT.

*Hangs head in shame. All street cred shot to shit*
posted by Skygazer at 9:41 AM on December 6, 2006


Getting shot to shit can only help your cred, dude.
posted by jonmc at 9:53 AM on December 6, 2006


It's okay, Skygazer. I can shoot you a few times if you want, you know, to bring it back?
posted by tehloki at 9:53 AM on December 6, 2006


I have been beaten to the punch. There goes all my cred as well. I guess it's back to raising puppies and selling them to rich people.
posted by tehloki at 9:54 AM on December 6, 2006


Who the fuck cares what crack dealing scum thinks?
I liked Steve Harvey's comment about fiddy on a talk show awhile back, it was just something to the effect of "He calls himself 50 cent" - that's all you need to know.
posted by 2sheets at 9:57 AM on December 6, 2006


If I had a dollar every time some two-bit artist like 50 cent chimed in with their 2¢ I could buy NEW CARS FOR THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE!

Word.
posted by mazola at 10:43 AM on December 6, 2006


"two-bit artist"? No way! 50 cents is four bits!
posted by nickmark at 10:59 AM on December 6, 2006


"two-bit artist"? No way! 50 cents is four bits!

So this 50 cent, he's a panhandler?
posted by IronLizard at 11:18 AM on December 6, 2006


Exactly what was Oprah planning to make "fiddy" speak eloquently about on her program?

Wouldn't it be a bit like Pat Robertson inviting Iggy Pop for a chat on the 700 Club?
posted by clevershark at 12:54 PM on December 6, 2006


Shooting my own street cred (hey did you know, The Massacre of Street Cred was going to be the title of 50c's debut, but he thought it was too long to be street enough, so he killed the last three words), I have to ask, why do you call him 'fiddy'?

It's making me confuse him with P. Diddy..Or the artist formerly known as P Diddy and whatever he calls himself now.

(The Massacre of Cred Street, on the other hand, is a little known horror movie from the 60's... ok, ok, I'll show myself out...)
posted by pleeker at 1:25 PM on December 6, 2006


Those guys are playing with fire. Oprah will have them killed before they know what's happening.

Oprah is rich, crazy rich. The kind of rich rappers don't even understand.

Rich people are dangerous. They can do things, terrible things, and not even be suspected, much less accused.

Oprah is rich enough to have him killed, live on her television show, sitting on her couch, and not be indicted.

Playing with fire indeed.

Put another way, he better damn sure hope she ISN'T street, or else he's signed his own death warrant.
posted by Ynoxas at 1:25 PM on December 6, 2006 [1 favorite]


Rich people are dangerous. They can do things, terrible things, and not even be suspected, much less accused.

Tell that to OJ Simpson, Robert Blake and Michael Jackson. Ok, they weren't convicted, but they were acuused.
posted by jonmc at 1:28 PM on December 6, 2006


"two-bit artist"? No way! 50 cents is four bits!

he's a shave and a haircut and a half.
posted by Sparx at 2:55 PM on December 6, 2006


jonmc: none of them, MJ included, were even in the same order of magnitude of wealth as Oprah.

And, as you noticed, even at their wealth level, you still don't go to jail.
posted by Ynoxas at 5:28 PM on December 6, 2006


Yeah, but MJ and OJ were at least as famous as her, and fame is a cuurency of it's own. BUt you're right, the rich and powerful and famous get a different justice system from the rest of us.

*note to self: get rich and famous somehow*
posted by jonmc at 6:52 PM on December 6, 2006


In 2005 she became...one of America's top 50 most generous philanthropists, having given an estimated $250 million.

Dammit, I'm gonna have to start respecting Oprah now, even while loathing the television show.

I hope she kicks ass on the 234 more-wealthy people and gets them doing the same.
posted by five fresh fish at 7:40 PM on December 6, 2006


jonmc: agreed. And you're already famous, just depends on what your desired scope is.
posted by Ynoxas at 8:00 PM on December 6, 2006


Oprah Winfrey doesn't care about black people.
posted by illiad at 9:24 PM on December 6, 2006


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