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	<title>Comments on: Fans are slans</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:21:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Fans are slans</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.fanac.org/Fannish_Reference_Works/Fancyclopedia/Fancyclopedia_I/c.html#Cosmic_Circle"&gt;&quot;Claude Degler attended the Chicon in 1940, and at Denver in 1941 delivered a speech purporting to have been written by Martians.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; So begins the Fancyclopedia I entry on Degler&apos;s Cosmic Circle. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sff.net/people/diccon/DELTA.HTM&quot;&gt;Claude Degler&lt;/a&gt; believed that science fiction fans were destined to evolve into a new species superior to homo sapiens, &quot;cosmen.&quot; In 2001 (the year) David B. Williams went &lt;a href=&quot;http://jophan.org/mimosa/m30/williams.htm&quot;&gt;in search of Degler&lt;/a&gt;, who had disappeard from fandom in 1951. Teresa Nielsen Hayden wrote in 1986 a story/essay about the inner Degler called &lt;a href=&quot;http://nielsenhayden.com/hell12.html&quot;&gt;Hell, 12 Feet&lt;/a&gt;. He was as infamous as fans got, though some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jophan.org/mimosa/m28/coger.htm&quot;&gt;remember him sort of fondly&lt;/a&gt;. Degler crops up regularly in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.efanzines.com/AOY/index.htm&quot;&gt;&quot;All Our Yesterdays&quot; columns&lt;/a&gt; written by fandom historian, Harry Warner Jr. The ones with most information are the columns &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.efanzines.com/AOY/AOY-02.htm&quot;&gt;H.C. Koenig. Claude Degler&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.efanzines.com/AOY/AOY-14.htm&quot;&gt;O Pioneers&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.efanzines.com/AOY/AOY-27.htm&quot;&gt;The Cosmic Circle&lt;/a&gt;. Here&apos;s a Degler quote from the last link: &lt;i&gt;We have created a fannationalism, a United World Fandom. Someday soon we will have our own apartment building, then our own land, our own city of Cosmen, schools, teachers, radio programme &#8212; later; our own laws, country perhaps! Our children shall inherit not only this earth &#8212; but this universe! Today we carry 22 states, tomorrow, nine planets!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:22:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kattullus</dc:creator>		<category>fandom</category>		<category>sciencefiction</category>		<category>claudedegler</category>		<category>oddballs</category>		<category>DavidBWilliams</category>		<category>TeresaNielsenHayden</category>		<category>HarryWarnerjr</category>		<category>HCKoenig</category>		<category>fancyclopedia</category>		<category>geekhistory</category>		<category>history</category>
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		<title>By: Divine_Wino</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/56844/Fans-are-slans#1517454</link>	
		<description>Good golly, wow. I&apos;m going to have to spend a while on this one. Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:21:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jokeefe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/56844/Fans-are-slans#1517473</link>	
		<description>I just did spend a while on this-- something on the order of a good hour and a half reading through the links (and various tangents). Fascinating and something not really known by me previously. Thank you for a well constructed and very interesting post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:20:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kattullus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/56844/Fans-are-slans#1517661</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m glad people liked it. I almost didn&apos;t post it because I thought this might even be too obscure for MetaFilter :)

I&apos;m fascinated by these little nooks and crannies of history which one suspects were written by Borges or Ballard.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 09:38:42 -0800</pubDate>
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