Comments on: DIY Diamond Mining

DIY Diamond Mining

Burhanistan — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:12:14 -0800

Interested in obtaining diamonds but feeling troubled by the diamond business? Head over to Arkansas and dig your own damned diamonds.

By: Pastabagel

Pastabagel — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:24:00 -0800

Digging is for suckers. When I want a diamond, I make one.

By: Faint of Butt

Faint of Butt — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:37:37 -0800

Sounds like fun.

By: jefgodesky

jefgodesky — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:45:12 -0800

Just by wearing diamonds, you're supporting the myth of the "valuable diamond" that DeBeers' marketing has so meticulously created. It's that mythology that makes diamonds valuable—and makes them such a great currency for warlords and terrorists. So it doesn't matter how "ethically" your diamond was obtained, just by wearing it you create the demand that keeps the whole thing going.

By: Mayor West

Mayor West — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:51:08 -0800

So, I've always wondered: can you actually seek out and buy diamonds that were found in places like this? It seems like a good way to KNOW that you're avoiding the evils associated with diamond mining, if you're hellbent on diamonds. On preview: jefgodesky is right, of course, in that you're still indirectly helping out the industry, but since you can't buy synthetics that are indistinguishable from naturally-occurring ones (or at least that's my understanding... I think De Beers is throwing lawsuits left and right to mandate that synthetic manufacturers 'dope' theirs so that gemologists can tell the difference, though I haven't heard about the status of said lawsuits in some time), this seems like it's at least marginally less evil.

By: CynicalKnight

CynicalKnight — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:05:04 -0800

Time for DeBeers to move outta Dodge.

By: maurice

maurice — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:16:14 -0800

In upstate New York, you can dig for Herkimer diamonds (actually "double-terminated quartz crystals".

By: Burhanistan

Burhanistan — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:18:27 -0800

(make sure you paste over the http in the pop-up link window, maurice)

By: spaceman_spiff

spaceman_spiff — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:19:45 -0800

Mayor West: the answer to that used to be to buy a Canadian diamond, and make sure it was certified as "conflict-free", or something like that. The company had a name like ... Polar Bear? Anyway, I believe DeBeers now has a controlling stake in them, so whether that's a morally superior choice is debatable (I could be wrong about that, though).

By: weretable and the undead chairs

weretable and the undead chairs — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:51:13 -0800

I want a diamond big enough that I can make a small knife out of it and hide it in my forearm in a sheathe made with my skin. _{/somewhat obscure sf reference}

By: elpapacito

elpapacito — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:54:22 -0800

t's that mythology that makes diamonds valuable—and makes them such a great currency for warlords and terrorists. So it doesn't matter how "ethically" your diamond was obtained, just by wearing it you create the demand that keeps the whole thing going. Horray for jefgodesky, it is worth repeating.

By: gurple

gurple — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:56:29 -0800

Just by wearing diamonds, you're supporting the myth of the "valuable diamond" that DeBeers' marketing has so meticulously created. So true, jefgodesky. This is a company that paid movie producers to place diamonds in movies in the first half of the 20th century, to create the now-accepted association between diamonds and love. Not to mention manufacturing from whole cloth the idea about how rare diamonds supposedly are. Screw 'em. It looks like public opinion is starting to turn the other way.I mean, Leo DiCaprio, for hell's sake!

By: anotherpanacea

anotherpanacea — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:00:52 -0800

Chatham, Apollo, and Gemesis all make diamonds from scratch, and I strongly recommend them. (I gave my fiance a blue diamond from Chatham. She -loves- it and proudly proclaims the victory of science over slavery to everyone who asks her about it.) For one thing, these companies avoid problems both at the mining and at the sorting/cutting/polishing level; most Indian diamond polishers are still bonded child laborers. The same goes for the miners in non-conflict zones; just because the diamonds aren't being used to buy weapons to arm a conscripted child-soldier doesn't mean they're mined by well-paid adult professionals. That is, most diamonds on the market have been either mined or polished by children who have been enslaved or indentured to work off an unpayable debt for their parents. If you're willing to pay a peace of mind tax of three to four times market value, you can get a diamond that's probably not been worked by children. That requires a Canadian diamond cut and polished in Israel. Since the Israelis don't polish anything under a carat, you're talking about a minium investment of $8,000 US. Even then, you'll still be feeding the demand for diamonds. You can't avoid the economics of the diamond industry by temporarily enslaving yourself to do the job, either, as jefgodesky points out. You can't sidestep this problem with sapphires or other precious gemstones, either. They have the same slave-labor production model, only there's a smaller profit margin, and no major motion picture or Kimberley process devoted to them.

By: dreamsign

dreamsign — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:07:59 -0800

it doesn't matter how "ethically" your diamond was obtained, just by wearing it you create the demand that keeps the whole thing going. Yep. Has always been the same issue with fake fur, too.

By: hortense

hortense — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:17:18 -0800

Wyoming ^ has some big ones

By: Saellys

Saellys — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:37:26 -0800

I went to that park with my grandparents years ago. It rained the night before and we spent a couple hours knee deep in mud with fifty or sixty middle-aged people. I didn't dig up anything, though my grandfather bought me a teeny jewel from the gift shop as a reward for suffering through the mire with them. If I went back now it would probably be more fun.

By: Foosnark

Foosnark — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:50:40 -0800

I went there with my family as a kid. Picture hundreds of people with spades and shovels digging in the dirt, in baking hot sun. Pointless and boring and frustrating.

By: chef_boyardee

chef_boyardee — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:54:20 -0800

We went to the park in July 1978. I found a tiny diamond-like rock about the size of 2 or 3 matchstick heads. My parents said not to do the "free identification" service for some reason... I guess either they were suspicious of the people or they rigged my dirt with a fake stone. Either way it was fun, and yeah, a real people show too.

By: pandaharma

pandaharma — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:57:35 -0800

Also went to this dirt farm turned park when I was a kid. Its kinda weird to have a pile of dirt magically sprout diamonds but only in this relatively limited area. If you're ever tempted to go, go after a rainstorm (as thats the best time to find anything), and, for God's sake, don't go during the summer. Commercial mining interests have explored the area but there are apparently not enough diamonds to make it profitable.

By: hortense

hortense — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:00:06 -0800

Diamond Mining.

By: Faint of Butt

Faint of Butt — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:19:12 -0800

Can I regain some of my liberal cred by pointing out that I'd be much more interested in the "lamproite, amethyst, banded agate, jasper, peridot, garnet, quartz, calcite, barite and hematite" than the diamonds? It's mainly the digging-about-looking-for-stones part that appeals to the dwarf in me.

By: weretable and the undead chairs

weretable and the undead chairs — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:36:10 -0800

There be mithril in these Arkansas hills!

By: hockeyman

hockeyman — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:13:14 -0800

It's easier find and dig worthless (except to the woo-woo crowd) quartz crystals in Arkansas, near Hot Springs. We did the diamond dig a couple of times. My 7 yr old loved it.

By: zardoz

zardoz — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:36:25 -0800

Native Arkansan here. I grew up in Hot Springs, a couple hours away from Murfreesboro, and the Crater of Diamonds was/is a popular place for elementary school field trips. I went when I was in 4th grade. The place is just acres and acres of slightly hilly, muddy earth. Not beautiful, but just the possibility of finding a diamond is damn exciting. The rangers are quick to point out that your chances of finding an actual diamond are extremely slim, and a lot of finds that people make are actually quartz crystals that look like diamonds. Then again, there are different types of diamonds that look like quartz--yellowish, opaque, etc. I remember finding one of these quartz crystals while digging and stuck it in my back pocket, only later finding out it could very well be a diamond. I checked my pocket later and the damn thing fell out somewhere. I just tell myself now that it was worthless quartz.

By: jefgodesky

jefgodesky — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:23:29 -0800

I'd have much more use for the quartz....