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	<title>Comments on: Are Carbon Offsets Real?</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:58:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Are Carbon Offsets Real?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real</link>	
		<description>It may feel hip to go &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_offset&quot;&gt;carbon neutral&lt;/a&gt;, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/005497.html&quot;&gt;are carbon offsets real&lt;/a&gt;?  Now you can find out by reading Clean Air Cool Planet&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cleanair-coolplanet.org/ConsumersGuidetoCarbonOffsets.pdf&quot;&gt;Consumer&apos;s Guide to Carbon Offsets&lt;/a&gt; which asseses 30 providers of carbon neutrality and sets out criteria for understanding which are doing the best to help you save the planet.  The consumer&apos;s guide reads more like an enviro geeks master&apos;s thesis, but it quickly becomes clear that the core of the matter is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.co2e.com/common/faq.asp?intPageElementID=30136&amp;intCategoryID=93&quot;&gt;additionality&lt;/a&gt;, i.e. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climatetrust.org/solicitations_2005_Additionality.php&quot;&gt;to what extent will this investment create emission reductions &lt;i&gt;in addition&lt;/i&gt; to those that would have occured in its absence&lt;/a&gt;.

If this is all too much for you and just want to cut to chase and save the world, you should just take the pledge at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.treasureourplanet.org/pledge_now.htm&quot;&gt;Treasure Our Planet&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s pretty simple stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:50:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alms</dc:creator>		<category>globalwarming</category>		<category>additionality</category>		<category>climatechange</category>		<category>carbonneutral</category>		<category>carbonoffset</category>		<category>carbonoffsets</category>		<category>offsets</category>		<category>Environment</category>
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		<title>By: alms</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527223</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Apologies for not labeling the second link as a PDF.  Jessamyn?&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:58:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bighappyfunhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527246</link>	
		<description>Look, I&apos;m going to crap on your face.
But I&apos;m going to pay someone else to &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt;
crap on your face.
See, that offsets my crapping on your face.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:25:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bighappyfunhouse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bumpkin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527259</link>	
		<description>Thanks for the information, I&apos;m always collecting these resources since I am trying to move my organization in this direction.

Previously:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/30188&quot;&gt;Green&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/48233&quot;&gt;Blue&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:41:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bumpkin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ericbop</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527271</link>	
		<description>im in ur suv, killing ur f00mz</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:54:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: porpoise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527291</link>	
		<description>How much carbon is released to make a bunch of stickers to tell everyone that you&apos;ve released less carbon into the atmosphere?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:17:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anthill</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527312</link>	
		<description>The embodied energy of a sticker will have to do as an estimate for you, porpoise:  (from &lt;a href=&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)

Paper: 36.4  MJ/kg
PVC:    70.0  MJ/kg

Assuming a sticker weighs about 5g, 4 of which is vinyl and 1 paper, the embodied energy of the sticker is about 315 kJ... or about the energy value of the gasoline consumed in 1/5th of a second worth of full power from the 325-horsepower Hummer H2.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:45:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anthill</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527314</link>	
		<description>Oops, forgot to fill in the anchor links for references:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vuw.ac.nz/cbpr/documents/pdfs/ee-coefficients.pdf&quot;&gt;one&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.ca/search?q=sticker+weight&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;safe=off&amp;start=20&amp;sa=N&quot;&gt;two&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suv/112_0408_2005_hummer_h2&quot;&gt;three&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:47:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrnutty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527319</link>	
		<description>My company (powells.com) just started (two weeks ago) looking into offering carbon offsets for all the books we ship to customers. CarbonFund.org is the only company that has a specific shipping offset program (CarbonFree Shipping), so we&apos;re looking hard at them. But Climate Trust is a local Portland organization AND is in the top ten providers, according to this report.
On the whole, though, I feel that getting this information more out in front of consumers (even if the offset is not as good as it could be) is better than not...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:57:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nofundy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527549</link>	
		<description>In this order:

reduce

reuse

recycle

reimburse? [carbon offsets]</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:44:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nofundy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pezdacanuck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527705</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;OR&lt;/strong&gt; you can do like I did and buy a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smartusa.com/&quot;&gt;Smart Car&lt;/a&gt;. Canucks get the diesel standard which is even more fuel effiecient than the gas engine. 5L/100km. That&apos;s 50 miles/gallon. I would say that helps in offsetting some carbon. 
Oh and if you&apos;re thinking that the diesel is more poluting, you&apos;d be wrong. Low sulphur diesel being burned using common rail and an O2 infuser has reduced NO2 emissions to almost neglegible. Far less than the tail emissions for a similar gasoline version.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:39:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pezdacanuck</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: davejay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1527932</link>	
		<description>Boy, that really sums up my thoughts on the subject, Bighappyfunhouse.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:32:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davejay</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rfbjames</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57118/Are-Carbon-Offsets-Real#1529571</link>	
		<description>I wish I had the extra money to be carbon neutral.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:33:27 -0800</pubDate>
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