Comments on: Online Rock Guitar Lessons

Online Rock Guitar Lessons

jonson — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:21:54 -0800

The Riff-O-Matic will help you learn to play rock & roll guitar, or at the very least, will help you play several of the most famous riffs in rock & roll history. Using a combination of sheet music, tablature notation & embedded (flash) audio & (windowsmedia) video, the site will get you up & playing the intro to Stairway to Heaven in the guitar store in no time. If you don't have time to learn whole songs, there's even an abridged list of the 10 Greatest Rock Riffs of All Time.

By: Heywood Mogroot

Heywood Mogroot — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:50:42 -0800

heh, I'm mining this same seam for my hobby software project. . . It's a damn shame that people spend hours playing a fake Guitar Hero when they could be actually getting into a real instrument.

By: GavinR

GavinR — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:07:24 -0800

The problem is that instead of taking you step-by-step, they throw every single thing at you at once and make it overly intimidating. This is pretty much for people who already know how to play.

By: rolypolyman

rolypolyman — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:46:18 -0800

Stairway to Heaven is a sacred American tradition... it's meant to be mangled past the 16th note. It's a gift that Jimmy Page has given to us all.

By: barnacles

barnacles — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:46:51 -0800

Heywood, in my more cynical moments I've thought the same about Guitar Hero, but after talking to a number of friends who play GH a lot more than I do I cannot dis the Guitar Hero. A good number of them have been so inspired by the game they're getting back into instruments they've put down for years or are heading to pawn shops to pick up one for the first time. Yeah, the time could be more constructively spent, but the overall effect I've seen is a net positive in terms of getting people into music.

By: bardic

bardic — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:06:23 -0800

That guy's "Back in Black" is way off in the video.

By: sharksandwich

sharksandwich — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:07:22 -0800

"riiff-o-matic" When I read anything "o-matic" I think ease. I think robots doing something I can not. This link is horrible. Flagged.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:08:00 -0800

It's a damn shame that people spend hours playing a fake Guitar Hero Do not diss the mighty Guitar Hero (or, for me, the best PC port - I haven't played the actual console game)! Sweet lord it's big fun (particularly if you can get all the songs from Guitar Hero 1 and 2, exported in a format FretsOnFire can read, from your friendly local p2p site). Woo followed by yeah!

By: bardic

bardic — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 02:58:13 -0800

"riiff-o-matic" When I read anything "o-matic" I think ease. I think robots doing something I can not. This link is horrible. Flagged. posted by sharksandwich at 4:07 AM EST on December 19 "More like Shit-Sandwich."

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:05:42 -0800

How can they have the first guitar solo from "Comfortably Numb" but not the second? What's even the point?

By: kingfisher, his musclebound cat

kingfisher, his musclebound cat — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:18:51 -0800

Cool, I never could figure out "Smoke on the Water" Seriously, combine tab with audio, well you can do that on your own. If they could highlight the tab and notes in time with the music, now that would be helpful. My favorite tab site - loads o Sleater Kinney

By: jaded

jaded — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:23:41 -0800

It's a damn shame that people spend hours playing a fake Guitar Hero when they could be actually getting into a real instrument. Riiight. That's what the world needs: more guitarists. You might as well complain about people playing Need for Speed or SimCity. Hey, why don't you become a real illegal street racer? Or, why don't you become a real city planner. It's a game. Games allow us (among other things) to that which we would otherwise be unable to do. Playing guitar is hard. Playing guitar hero is easy. Well, until you get to the hard level, anyway. Furthermore, playing GH is actually really good for you if you do play guitar. It allows you to work on your dexterity and rhythm for hours on end without tearing your fingertips apart. It also forces you to use your pinky finger.

By: Devils Rancher

Devils Rancher — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:40:22 -0800

Where's Keef? I call shenanigans.

By: psmealey

psmealey — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:46:49 -0800

Cool, I never could figure out "Smoke on the Water" Heh. This stuff is pretty fun but not really very useful. I spent the first ten years of my guitar playing life (ages 9-19) just playing shit like this and not learning how to play through a whole song. In order to start playing in a band, I pretty much had to unlearn all this guitar hero/music store showoff crap, and learn how to structure a song and play through it. Although I managed to become a pretty fine guitarist, I still will never play a solo as I have a mental/emotional block about it. Weird.

By: psmealey

psmealey — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:02:56 -0800

Btw, are tabs back up these days? I was searching through tab crawler and a few places about a month ago, and all my favorite tabs were down. Was this a short-term thing, or is it that it's impossible for any kind of legislation to keep this kind of thing off the 'net?

By: Gungho

Gungho — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:10:26 -0800

So What constitutes a 'riff'? 5 notes? Six? Is a melody a riff? Stairway is more melody than riff. What about the opening notes to Aqualung? Da da da dee dum dum...

By: Enron Hubbard

Enron Hubbard — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:14:35 -0800

psmealey, I find that interesting. You don't play solos, or just "note-for-note" solos? Most guitarists talk about the players that influenced and inspired them, and playing something "just like" your role model is a typical phase most players go through. You learn a lot of technique that way, but to develop your own style, you have to move past that point. Good artists borrow, great artists steal.

By: peewinkle

peewinkle — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:27:40 -0800

Where's Keef? I call shenanigans. My thoughts exactly.... Sweet Child O Mine? Enter Sandman?

By: bardic

bardic — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:29:19 -0800

Gungho, I actually said to myself that the "Proud Mary" tab wasn't a riff, technically, chords with some relatively tricky shenanigans thrown in. "Iron Man"? That's a definite fucking riff. Kind of an interesting divide among guitarists I think. The Beatles? Definitely worked out chord progressions before anything else, usually, probably because lots of the song-writing was done on piano. The Stones? More interested in riffage (and yeah, please point out to me the various exceptions that prove the rule). When I used to try and write songs, I would come up with lyrics and chord progressions, and then be envious of the dudes who just came up with the easiest, most basic riffs. Maybe it worked both ways on ocassion, but I think those guys got laid more after the death of folk music.

By: bardic

bardic — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:34:44 -0800

(Then the "Sweet Child of Mine" lick -- a lick being something between a riff and a chord progression -- that's a riff, but it's arpeggiated, which is a fancy word for playing single notes out of a pretty straight-forward and, dare I say it, kick-ass chord progression. It's cool though. After guitar-rock died I've been listening to nothing but Merzbow and Hillary Duff, so suck it hatas.)

By: psmealey

psmealey — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:49:23 -0800

psmealey, I find that interesting. You don't play solos, or just "note-for-note" solos? When I get to the break in a song, I mostly play a lot of arpeggiated chords and economized riffs up the neck with open string voicings, but I don't do any two-string bending, hammer-on type stuff. I can play note for note solos if I'm doing a cover of a Hendrix, Clapton or AC/DC tune, but for whatever reason, I just can't make it happen in my own songs. Feels like falling down the stairs when I try, so I don't. Similar thing happened when I took French. I took 6 years of Spanish in middle school and high school and scored very high on both the achievement test and the AP exam. But, when I went to college, I started taking French (ended up majoring in it), and went there to live for three years. I speak French fluently, and can't speak a word of Spanish anymore. I wonder if they two phenomena are related (I must have a FIFO brain when it comes to storage).

By: psmealey

psmealey — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:52:01 -0800

A riff is a stylized repetition notes, usually based off of one chord. The opener to "Whole Lotta Love" is a perfect example of that kind of thing. Also, pretty much everything Keith Richards ever did can be classified as a riff. It's just that he used some pretty funky tunings on his guitar to get to some of his more interesting ones (like the riff on "Happy").

By: sourwookie

sourwookie — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:04:32 -0800

You might as well complain about people playing Need for Speed or SimCity. Hey, why don't you become a real illegal street racer? Or, why don't you become a real city planner I don't know about that. When Super Mario Brothers came out, I wasted a lot of time in the living room, getting fat and pasty-skinned, when I could have been outside stomping on turtles for real. I won't even tell you what Dig Dug did to my skills with a bicycle pump and neighborhood pets. Right out the window, that's for sure.

By: eriko

eriko — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:25:36 -0800

That's what the world needs: more guitarists. Reminds me of a description of Austin. "Dammit, they still get of the plane with their hats and their Strats."

By: ZenMasterThis

ZenMasterThis — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:29:48 -0800

Your favorite riff ... nah, too easy.

By: ZenMasterThis

ZenMasterThis — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:43:47 -0800

Actually, as a 100% "by-ear" player who's too cheap to pay for lessons, this could be a handy learning tool.

By: straight

straight — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:37:17 -0800

Re: Guitar Hero - I'm a guitar teacher and I've had at least 3 new students who started playing Guitar Hero and decided they wanted to learn the real thing. And they've got a much broader range of songs they want to learn than most kids their age. (Downside: explaining that it's going to be a while before they're ready to tackle YYZ.) Re: useful ways to use computers to learn music - don't bother with this site. Download PowerTab which shows you tab, standard notation, and plays it for you in MIDI at whatever speed you're ready for. Just about any song you'd want to learn available if you know how to use Google.

By: Smedleyman

Smedleyman — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:00:17 -0800

I can't play Guitar Hero. I get to "My Generation" and I destroy the console.

By: dozo

dozo — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:29:49 -0800

Why is the embedded video trying to install unknown plugins just to play an mpg? It looks like I need some activex crap, which my Firefox no speaky. Looks like it could be cool after I've manually DL's the clips. And speaking of Austin...No Paul Leary??!!

By: malocchio

malocchio — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:23:46 -0800

Just wait until the guys at Guitar Center get a load of me now!

By: SBMike

SBMike — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:43:48 -0800

kingfisher, thanks for that S-K link. I think I might dust off the old axe and have a go at some of those tonight.

By: Devils Rancher

Devils Rancher — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:45:28 -0800

Just wait until the guys at Guitar Center get a load of me now! Mygod. It's all I can do to hustle in there, grab a patch cord & scramble out witout asploding. WTF is it with lously players trying to empress chain-store employees? It's relentless.

By: malocchio

malocchio — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:03:46 -0800

I think it's retaliation for the level of customer service, particularly in the guitar department. (The recording and keyboard guys are generally pretty good to me, though, maybe because that's more my element.) At least I have the courtesy to turn way down, even when I'm looking at amps. I know I suck, I don't need for you to know as well.

By: sourwookie

sourwookie — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:11:59 -0800

You guys shouldn't be at Guitar Center anyway. Friendly Local Music Store 4evah!

By: psmealey

psmealey — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:43:50 -0800

Friendly Local Music Store 4evah! Funny... as much as I agree with that sentiment, it doesn't pertain to two stores I can think of in specific: American Music in Seattle and Matt Umanov's in Greenwich Village. In both of those places I have been roundly ignored by the "sales" staff (guess you have to be a recognizable start to get service) after trying to get someone's attention for nearly 15 minutes. I mean not even a hello. At least at Sam Ash and Guitar Center they treat everyone more or less the same. /OT rant

By: arto

arto — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:03:58 -0800

"I've been a guitar owner for 20 years now. As required by law, the first ten of those years were spent learning Van Halen intros while high." Truer words were never spoken.