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	<title>Comments on: Vintage androids</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:52:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Vintage androids</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3698181664223784657&amp;q=automata&amp;hl=en&quot;&gt;Karakuri automata&lt;/a&gt; are representative of the highest technology in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.us-japan.org/edomatsu/&quot;&gt;Edo&lt;/a&gt; period (1603 to 1867). Automata were also crafted hundreds of years ago in Europe: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu9OYQOUu5w&amp;mode=related&amp;search=&quot;&gt;The Dulcimer Player &lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.automates-anciens.com/english_version/main_pages/kintzing_dulcimer_player.php&quot;&gt;Pierre Kintzing &lt;/a&gt;, made in 1772; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_qX6N1wSpY&amp;mode=related&amp;search=&quot;&gt;The Singing Lesson&lt;/a&gt;, created by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.automates-anciens.com/english_version/main_pages/robert_houdin_rigged_automatons.php&quot;&gt;Robert-Houdin&lt;/a&gt;; three &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.automates-anciens.com/english_version/main_pages/androids_jaquet_droz.php&quot;&gt;androids&lt;/a&gt; by Jaquet-Droz; the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.automates-anciens.com/english_version/frames/english_frames.htm&quot;&gt;Pooping Duck&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaucanson&quot;&gt;Vaucanson&lt;/a&gt; (the first link at the top). &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shef.ac.uk/marcoms/eview/articles58/robot.html&quot;&gt;Ancient robots&lt;/a&gt;. The first automaton was created by Al-Jazari: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muslimheritage.com/day_life/default.cfm?ArticleID=188&amp;Oldpage=1&quot;&gt;video&lt;/a&gt; of his clock. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://antville.medien.uni-weimar.de/static/antville/karakuri/files/automata.pdf&quot;&gt;history of automata &lt;/a&gt;[pdf]. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.automates-anciens.com/english_version/main_pages/shop.php&quot;&gt;Contemporary&lt;/a&gt; toy automata. [more inside]</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:51:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nickyskye</dc:creator>		<category>automata</category>		<category>automaton</category>		<category>clockwork</category>		<category>robot</category>		<category>technology</category>		<category>mechanical</category>		<category>Japanese</category>		<category>French</category>		<category>Turkish</category>		<category>invention</category>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554271</link>	
		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.automatashop.co.uk/search.asp?types=yes&amp;type=Card+Cutouts&quot;&gt;Cabaret Mechanical Theatre&lt;/a&gt; offers nicely designed card cutout automata.

 On the &lt;a href=&quot;http://karakuriya.com/english/doll/work.htm&quot;&gt;Karakuriya.com &lt;/a&gt;site there are also amazing&lt;a href=&quot;http://karakuriya.com/english/chest/index.htm&quot;&gt; Karakuri chests&lt;/a&gt;. (The video  on that page is worth watching).</description>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
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		<description>Delightful! Nice post, nickyskye. The little fellow doing backflips down the stairs (at 2:33 on the Karakuri ningyo clip) brought a smile, and reminded me of my old childhood &lt;a href=&quot;http://inventors.about.com/od/sstartinventions/ss/Physics_Illustr.htm&quot;&gt;Slinky&lt;/a&gt; going down the staircase.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:11:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554333</link>	
		<description>This is very cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:10:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554364</link>	
		<description>Great post, nickyskye, thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:35:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: squasha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554478</link>	
		<description>Well, there goes my afternoon.

I thank you, nickyskye, but the students for whom I was supposed to be preparing English lessons are going to have a vastly different topic to discuss this evening!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:04:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spiderskull</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554517</link>	
		<description>Great post! This is fascinating...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:20:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StrangerInAStrainedLand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554527</link>	
		<description>I had just assumed that the contemporary Japanese fascination with robots was mostly a sign of the times, a quirky side effect of their electronic industry&apos;s strength. Not so, it appears.

Also, plus some extra gratitude for this not being an obit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:16:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zapatosunidos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554551</link>	
		<description>During my tenure at Toshiba a few years ago, we were shown an internal promotional/insprirational video with dolls of this type and a master craftsman manipulating them.  It was amazing then as now.

The implication was that Toshiba founders were somehow involved in the creation of these dolls before bringing whatever passed as &quot;high technology&quot; to the masses.  Does anybody know whether that link is real or concocted for rah-rah effect?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 04:16:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zapatosunidos</title>
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		<description>Apparently, it was an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.toshiba.co.jp/spirit/en/hisashige/index.html&quot;&gt;external &lt;/a&gt; campaign as well.  Can&apos;t find any links to the video, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 04:23:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554669</link>	
		<description>zapatosunidos, In 1882 Tanaka Engineering Works was founded by Daikichi Tanaka. He was the leading apprentice to Hisashige (1799-1880), who was one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.karakuri.info/master/index.html&quot;&gt;the three great Karakuri automata masters&lt;/a&gt;. Tanaka Engineering Works was the forerunner of Toshiba.

In describing the first Karakuri tea carrying automaton I found this fun snippet from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teamdroid.com/archives/2005/10/30/karakuri-the-tea-robot/&quot;&gt;TeamDroid&lt;/a&gt;:

The driving force of the original tea-carrying doll came from a spring made of &lt;strong&gt;whale whiskers &lt;/strong&gt;(actually whale teeth). All the other components, such as its gears, body and escapement for speed adjustments, were made of wood. How does it work? When a tea cup is placed on the tray, the stopper is released by the whale spring attached to the doll&apos;s arms; the spring forces the stopper to engage again when the cup is lifted from the tray. 

(Apparently whale whiskers were used for bowstrings, Samurai &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.samurai-archives.com/viewtopic.php?t=140&amp;start=0&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;highlight=&amp;sid=c3e741a013c724c5d97665d466b8ba1e&quot;&gt;sword handles&lt;/a&gt;, bunraku puppets, portable pillows, horse whips, furniture and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sizes.com/units/shaku.htm&quot;&gt;rulers for measuring cloth&lt;/a&gt;. I didn&apos;t know whales had whiskers.)

Also just found an online store, Karakuri Corner, which sells &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.karakuricorner.com/servlet/the-Karakuri-Ningyo/Categories&quot;&gt;a variety of Karakuri automata&lt;/a&gt; with little videos of them in action and more detailed information about each one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:25:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554725</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tanaka Engineering Works was the forerunner of Toshiba.&lt;/i&gt;

Ha! That&apos;s perfect.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:19:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
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		<description>The Kanakuri automata masters were incredible inventors.

The etymology of the name Toshiba is this:
 
The Kanakuri automata master, Hisashige&apos;s successor, &quot;Hisashige Tanaka II, established Tanaka Seisakujo and produced measuring devices, home appliances, machine tools, cables and iron bridges. Tanaka Seisakujo became Shibaura Seisakujo and then &lt;strong&gt;To&lt;/strong&gt;kyo &lt;strong&gt;Shiba&lt;/strong&gt;ura Seisakujo, which led to the current name Toshiba.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:01:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1554780</link>	
		<description>*Karakuri, not Kanakuri.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:28:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: azuresunday</title>
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		<description>I think the &quot;whale whiskers&quot; are actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baleen&quot;&gt;baleen&lt;/a&gt;. Also, a great place to see katakuri in action is Takayama, which has a museum with regular demonstrations and a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hidanet.ne.jp/e02/ematsuri/eaki.htm&quot;&gt; cool-looking festival&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:04:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1555908</link>	
		<description>Thanks for the great additional link azuresunday. Yes, you&apos;re right about the baleen but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.midwinter.com/~lch/yimgallery/whale.with.moustache.png&quot;&gt;whale &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clipartguide.com/clipart_animal_pics/seal_whiskers_thumb.jpg&quot;&gt;whiskers&lt;/a&gt; was a delightful thought for a minute.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:23:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: squidlarkin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1556324</link>	
		<description>Hey cool, I was wondering what the karakuroids in &lt;a href=&quot;http://agtp.romhack.net/fns.html &quot;&gt;Shiren&lt;/a&gt; were supposed to be.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:09:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: madamjujujive</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1557668</link>	
		<description>What a fabulous post, nickyskye, thanks! A marvelous collection of fascinating links  - this will keep me occupied for hours!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:46:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57763/Vintage-androids#1560007</link>	
		<description>A Sisyphusian but pleasantly Sisyphusian task indeed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:10:16 -0800</pubDate>
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