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	<title>Comments on: Kliban, Tooth and Claw</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:01:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Kliban, Tooth and Claw</title>
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		<description>As a teenager, &lt;a href=&quot;http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/01/24/the-elder-of-the-two/&quot;&gt;Bernard &quot;Hap&quot; Kliban&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eatmousies.com/html/scrapbook1.html&quot;&gt;joked&lt;/a&gt; about wanting to join the Air Force to strafe civilians.  Instead, he became a &lt;a href=&quot;http://cybergata.com/kliban2.htm&quot;&gt;fabulously&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.movietreasures.com/Kliban/kliban.html&quot;&gt;successful&lt;/a&gt; cartoonist best known for his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.islandheritage.com/kliban/home.html&quot;&gt;Cats&lt;/a&gt;.  But his non-cat work was perhaps more influential, and certainly funnier.  Gallery &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/klibanhome.htm &quot;&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;, gallery &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag3/gallery/kliban.htm&quot;&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;, gallery &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coldbacon.com/kliban2.html&quot;&gt;3.&lt;/a&gt; (many NSFW)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:57:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>maryh</dc:creator>		<category>kliban</category>		<category>cartoons</category>		<category>cartoonist</category>		<category>cats</category>		<category>surreal</category>		<category>funnelpig</category>
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		<title>By: maryh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577201</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli4.htm&quot;&gt;My personal favorite.&lt;/a&gt;  I can&apos;t remember the first time I saw it, but I still remember many of the situations in which I burst out laughing inappropriately because this damn cartoon popped into my head.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:01:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vacapinta</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577203</link>	
		<description>I used to think of Larson as deeply original until I saw Kliban. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli18.htm&quot;&gt;Is this really Kliban?&lt;/a&gt; I&apos;d swear its a Larson cartoon right down to the eyeglasses she&apos;s wearing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:04:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sourwookie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577205</link>	
		<description>Thankyouthankyouthankyou. Those gave me a boner.

Especially the one maryh pointed out.  &quot;Oh, no. What a gracious hostess, though I possibly couldn&apos;t.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:14:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maryh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577210</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s certainly a Kliban influence on Gary Larson, but Larson&apos;s cartoons were so consistently funny over such a long stretch I don&apos;t think you can discount his talent.  
And I wonder if Kliban was influenced by another, though lesser appreciated great, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.benway.com/mkbrown/index2.html&quot;&gt;M. K. Brown.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:22:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maryh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577211</link>	
		<description>&quot;less appreciated&quot;, that is</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:23:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hattifattener</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577214</link>	
		<description>Some of these are oddly Gorey-like too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:25:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: griphus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577224</link>	
		<description>In regard to what &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577203&apos;&gt;vacapinta said&lt;/a&gt;, Something fishy is definitely going on. &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli16.htm&apos;&gt;This comic&lt;/a&gt; can be found in the artist sketches page in &lt;a href=&apos;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_PreHistory_of_The_Far_Side&apos;&gt;The Prehistory of the Far Side&lt;/a&gt;. So, either whoever runs their website has their data confused or...

Funny, making this comment is what finally got me around the hurdle of registering for mefi.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:54:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: griphus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577228</link>	
		<description>Uh oh. I might be completely wrong on that accusation. The presence of the word &apos;shit&apos; tipped me off right after I made the comment. None of his sketches contained obscenity, or if they did, they wouldn&apos;t they print it (even in a rejected comics compilation) in something as (generally) family-friendly as The Far Side. It may very well be properly attributed to Kliban in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0964505703/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;this book&lt;/a&gt;.

If anyone with a copy of either could verify, that would be great. I don&apos;t have either anymore.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:04:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maryh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577230</link>	
		<description>Welcome to the Thunderdome, griphus!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:09:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goetter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577231</link>	
		<description>The 27 Nov 2006 &lt;i&gt;New Yorker&lt;/i&gt; had a small portfolio of previously unpublished Kliban pieces, under the title &quot;Kliban&apos;s World.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:09:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577232</link>	
		<description>vacapinta and griphus: Both comics you pointed to are absolutely Kliban&apos;s work.  (And welcome, griphus!)

maryh: There&apos;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coldbacon.com/kliban-feedback.html#bkpig&quot;&gt;great attempt&lt;/a&gt; to deconstruct the pig cartoon here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:13:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: griphus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577235</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s a great link, waxpancake. Especially when you apply it to something like the New Yorker caption contest.

Then again, any guy who sticks a funnel in a pig&apos;s ass certainly &lt;a href=&apos;http://modernarthur.com/blog/christwhatanasshole.html&apos;&gt;is an asshole&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:21:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mmrtnt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577240</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577210&quot;&gt;maryh,&lt;/a&gt; M K Brown.  Thank you, I had forgotten!

I remember seeing her cartoons in National Lampoon, thirty-some-odd years ago.  I don&apos;t remember them being hysterically funny, but there was something intriguing about her pen work, primarily, &lt;i&gt;the lines left out&lt;/i&gt;

She was the first artist I&apos;d ever encountered in ink-work who satisfied some weird tic in the eye with her annoyingly attractive use of white space.

(I cannot describe it any better than that)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:27:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maryh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577243</link>	
		<description>Ha! I just called my cartoon-obsessed husband over to look at the funnel pig scenario, and he thought it would make the perfect New Yorker Caption Contest entry.  It&apos;s like the Sword in the Stone of captionless cartoons. Perhaps someday, a man or woman will come along with a caption worthy of it, and that person shall rule us all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:34:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hal9k</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577269</link>	
		<description>&quot;And you shall feet water your sow&quot;? 
Nevermind.

Nice stuff, maryh. My favorite was the cat playing guitar:
&lt;em&gt;&quot;Love them little mousies,
Mousies what I love to eat,
Chew they little heads off,
Nibble on they tiny feet&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:43:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Catfry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577298</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t get it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 05:38:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Catfry</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: schoolgirl report</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577307</link>	
		<description>There goes that rotten Halley&apos;s Comet.
It makes me sick, I want to vomit!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 06:11:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>schoolgirl report</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ErWenn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577362</link>	
		<description>I picked up copies of Tiny Footprints and Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your Head at a used bookstore years ago as a kid.  Not as consistent as some of the more well-known cartoonists, but the funny ones were really funny.  Besides, jokes with naked chicks are automatically funnier to a thirteen-year-old, and I had yet to discover Bill Plympton.  I had no idea they were out of print, and I&apos;m glad I never got rid of them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 07:23:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ErWenn</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pernoctalian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577373</link>	
		<description>Mousie dung!
Kliban is high on the list of things that made my junior high years suck less. I still have my Cat pillowcases.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 07:37:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: felix grundy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577400</link>	
		<description>I like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag3/gallery/oldage.htm&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag3/gallery/boredom.htm&quot;&gt;two&lt;/a&gt;.  Dilute Truth and Mixed Justice, indeed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 08:03:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>felix grundy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: felix grundy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577403</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag3/features/klibanwargames.htm&quot;&gt;three&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 08:06:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jessenoonan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577436</link>	
		<description>hal9k beat me to my favorite quote, so I&apos;ll just say &quot;Hey ottist! Paint dis!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 08:47:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: squalor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577469</link>	
		<description>Thank you for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli4.htm&quot;&gt;an exquisite visual depiction&lt;/a&gt; of my present situation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:26:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>squalor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pinespree</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577473</link>	
		<description>Looks like maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PF_NEW%5C08_25_2005/PF_1233146~The-Family-Guy-Group-Posters.jpg&quot;&gt;Seth McFarlane&lt;/a&gt; has seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli8.htm&quot;&gt;one&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli12.htm&quot;&gt;two&lt;/a&gt; of Kilban&apos;s comics as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:28:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fleetmouse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577513</link>	
		<description>I have always admired Kliban for his cultural literacy that comes across in sly, bizarre ways in his cartoons, and for his use of the word &quot;qat&quot; which is how I&apos;ve spelled &quot;cat&quot; ever since seeing it in print.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 10:01:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fleetmouse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: loquacious</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577543</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli30.htm&quot;&gt;Dirty Fat Person Sits On Presidents Face&lt;/a&gt;

Oh, thank you. I was worried about this post at first. &lt;small&gt;&quot;WTF? Pepsi... cat?&quot;&lt;/small&gt; Eat your heart out Far Side, Bizarro and Parking Lot is Full, all of you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 10:25:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mach5</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577570</link>	
		<description>This guy reminds me of the late great &lt;a href=&quot;http://plif.andkon.com/&quot;&gt;Parking Lot is Full&lt;/a&gt;.  Another excellent fucked up comic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 10:59:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mach5</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: interrobang</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577593</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/19384&quot;&gt;Great post!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:30:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>interrobang</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: exlotuseater</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577610</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli16.htm&quot;&gt;hilarious&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:47:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577641</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577224&quot;&gt;That&apos;s weird.&lt;/a&gt; Because I remember that sketch from one of the Kliban books I bought in jr. high &lt;i&gt;(actually, I shoplifted it from Alpha Beta in a desperate cry for attention &amp;amp; still have it -- shhhh.)&lt;/i&gt;... and that was WAY pre-Gary Larson.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:19:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>miss lynnster</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: klangklangston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577659</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s another couple Kliban posts on MeFi, which was what always kept me from posting again. That and the ColdBacon and Blackjelly sites have been down intermittently.

Still, if there&apos;s any cartoonist I could be like, Kliban would be it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:45:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jtron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58337/Kliban-Tooth-and-Claw#1577791</link>	
		<description>HARDW</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:30:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Snyder</title>
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		<description>My cat is fat
And now I&apos;ll dine
And eat all up
this cat of mine!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:43:10 -0800</pubDate>
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