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	<title>Comments on: Disney&apos;s Private Government</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:12:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Disney&apos;s Private Government</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.rcid.org"&gt;The Reedy Creek Improvement District&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; goal &quot;is to provide effective and efficient services to the public and our taxpayers.&quot; The taxpayer is Disney, and the taxes are used to provide services for Disney by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rcid.org/PDF/RCESBrochure.pdf&quot;&gt;contracting the services to Disney&lt;/a&gt;. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reedy Creek Improvement District&quot;&gt;RCID&lt;/a&gt; is a county-like entity in Florida, composed of the cities of Lake Buena Vista and Bay Lake, which are also controlled by Disney. The government of the RCID is elected by the landowners - Disney executives who own five-acre plots, the only non-corporate and non-government landowners. The governments of the cities are elected by the residents - about 40 Disney employees split between &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;q=bay+court,+bay+lake,+florida&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;z=19&amp;ll=28.426642,-81.569101&amp;spn=0.001684,0.003589&amp;t=h&amp;om=1&amp;iwloc=addr&quot;&gt;Bay Lake&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;q=royal+oak+ct,+lake+buena+vista,+florida&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;z=19&amp;ll=28.386886,-81.523651&amp;spn=0.001685,0.003589&amp;t=h&amp;om=1&amp;iwloc=addr&quot;&gt;Lake Buena Vista&lt;/a&gt;. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rotten.com/library/travel/walt-disney-world/&quot;&gt;Rotten Library&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;(SFW article on a NSFW site)&lt;/small&gt; discusses the district, which is administered from a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rcid.org/Images/RCID_Map.gif&quot;&gt;SimCity 2000 construction site&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 03:37:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TheOnlyCoolTim</dc:creator>		<category>disney</category>		<category>disneyworld</category>		<category>corporations</category>		<category>government</category>		<category>reedycreek</category>		<category>lakebuenavista</category>		<category>buenavista</category>		<category>baylake</category>		<category>florida</category>		<category>creepy</category>		<category>reedycreekimprovementdistrict</category>
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		<title>By: oxford blue</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583408</link>	
		<description>The mind, she boggles.

I&apos;m pretty sure it&apos;s how you-know-who intended Germany to be like.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:12:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>oxford blue</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pax digita</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583431</link>	
		<description>Here&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bookreporter.com/reviews/0345422805.asp&quot;&gt;a review&lt;/a&gt; of Carl Hiaasen&apos;s book of yore on this very subject, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345422805/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Team Rodent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.

on preview:  oxford blue, I&apos;m imagining Mickey saying &lt;i&gt;&quot;Nur so gewinnen wir den Lebensraum, den wir brauchen&quot;&lt;/i&gt; in that high-pitched squeaky voice of his.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:03:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pax digita</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: maryh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583437</link>	
		<description>Thanks, TheOnlyCoolTim.  I look forward to reading these links.  I first heard about this whacked out situation when a friend of mine briefly moved to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebration,_Florida&quot;&gt;Celebration,&lt;/a&gt; Disney&apos;s corporate governed planned community.  And thanks for the link to Team Rodent, pax digita, it sounds like a must-read.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:18:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>maryh</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mkb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583438</link>	
		<description>Related: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.celebrationfl.com/&quot;&gt;Celebration, Florida&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebration,_Florida&quot;&gt;built from the ground up by Disney&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:22:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mkb</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pax digita</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583441</link>	
		<description>maryh, anytime.

Hoping misslynnster sees the FPP and drops by -- she was a cast member (what Disney calls employees).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:23:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pax digita</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nofundy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583461</link>	
		<description>The mouse that ate Florida.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:48:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nofundy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rikschell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583516</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m in UR metafilter, Godwining UR posts.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:51:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SirOmega</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583534</link>	
		<description>Disney: the only corporation with its own legal police dept.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:06:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ROU_Xenophobe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583580</link>	
		<description>I think you&apos;ll find that many private universities are both legal corporations and have their own real, no-shit police departments.  Their officers are AFAIK usually a different sort of county deputy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:44:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TheOnlyCoolTim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583643</link>	
		<description>An interesting thing about Celebration is that it was removed from the RCID and the two cities, ensuring that the people there don&apos;t get voting rights as landowners/residents.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:40:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ThatSomething</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583713</link>	
		<description>Richard Foglesong&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0300098286/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Married to the Mouse&lt;/a&gt; is another great book on the relationship between Disney, Orlando, and the rest of the state.

Disney doesn&apos;t control Celebration anymore, but they do still have a lot of offices over there; mostly sales and the cruise line.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 09:17:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ThatSomething</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: [expletive deleted]</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583723</link>	
		<description>This struck me from the Wikipedia article: &lt;blockquote&gt;The District, as with any municipal corporation, can issue tax-free bonds for internal improvements. This became a point of contention when a 1985 law limited the amount of tax-free bonds in Florida. The eligible bonds were chosen randomly, causing the District to beat out Orange County, which had planned to build low-income housing, in 1989.&lt;/blockquote&gt;   If this is true, it makes me want to vomit. So bonds were chosen randomly, and an entity created and entirely controlled by a for profit corporation won out over bonds needed to build subsidized housing for the poor? Where the fuck is the state government in this? I guess the Florida legislature decided that corporations that don&apos;t want to pay taxes have as much right to this fundraising power as actual municipal governments using the money to help the poor. 

Give Disney whatever it wants, it&apos;s good for the economy. What have the poor ever done for Florida&apos;s economy? Fuck the poor. Fuck them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 09:21:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: box</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583778</link>	
		<description>If you like &lt;i&gt;Team Rodent&lt;/i&gt;, you&apos;ll also likely enjoy Richard Schickel&apos;s &lt;i&gt;The Disney Version&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 09:44:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>box</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nofundy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1583866</link>	
		<description>You forgot to delete your expletive.  (but I agree with the sentiment)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:34:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nofundy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Elsbet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1584169</link>	
		<description>Also, no one owns land in Celebration.  You lease the land and own your house/condo/whatever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:35:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Elsbet</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: grouse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1584307</link>	
		<description>RCID has long fascinated/weirded me out. Thanks for this post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:27:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grouse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: serazin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58468/Disneys-Private-Government#1584593</link>	
		<description>Facinating. This is all news (although not terribly surprising news) to me!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:47:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>serazin</dc:creator>
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