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"Police in Mexico are investigating claims that rival drug gangs are using the internet as a new battle ground."
posted by jason's_planet (30 comments total)

 
Are these videos still on YouTube? Not that I really want to see them, but... you know, morbid curiosity.
posted by OverlappingElvis at 1:07 PM on February 14, 2007


I for one welcome our new mexican drug overlords!
posted by smackwich at 1:09 PM on February 14, 2007


Gangs have been doing this for years... Hell, MeFi is like the biggest Crips hangout EVAR!
posted by Bugg at 1:11 PM on February 14, 2007


Maybe. I don't know.

The upper right hand side of that page has a video/audio link -- blocked by my workplace filter -- which might have excerpts of the videos.
posted by jason's_planet at 1:12 PM on February 14, 2007


It's this text:

VIDEO AND AUDIO NEWS

How the internet is being used in Mexican gang wars
posted by jason's_planet at 1:14 PM on February 14, 2007


A spokesman for YouTube said that video showing people getting hurt, attacked or humiliated was not allowed on the site.

Ha ha. <clap, clap, clap> Most humorous.
posted by gurple at 1:23 PM on February 14, 2007


¡ Oh, Dios mio !
posted by Benny Andajetz at 1:25 PM on February 14, 2007


now we're gonna have white flight on the internet, too? maaaan.....
posted by keswick at 1:26 PM on February 14, 2007


Great. Now one of you MeFi potheads is gonna start spouting off about how the US is to blame for all of the drug cartel violence.

It's not like our rabid prohibitionist stance fosters an unregulated black market where market share and profit margins are determined by sheer brutality and bloodthirstiness.
posted by i_am_a_Jedi at 1:28 PM on February 14, 2007


ustedTubo?
posted by mullingitover at 1:29 PM on February 14, 2007


IM IN UR WEB CAPPIN UR HOLMES
sorry
posted by exogenous at 1:42 PM on February 14, 2007


Yeah, the .mx police really do hate rival gangs...
posted by starscream at 1:46 PM on February 14, 2007


It seems strange that, as the article points out, some of the clips "show people praising the heads of rival cartels." Is this a BBC mistake, or a sign that gangs are initiating dialog (or merging with one another), or is praise prologue to a hit attempt, or what?

This kind of YouTube use isn't surprising. It surprises me that ransom videos or terrorist screeds and demonstrations haven't shown up there yet. (Though I guess in the case of ransom videos, kidnapers often have an interest in keeping things quiet. Still, the internet is a pretty anonymous place and it must be easy to post to YouTube and be lost in the server shuffle).
posted by breezeway at 1:58 PM on February 14, 2007


You can predict the carnage by the number of body tags.

Bring me the /head of algarcia151
posted by hal9k at 2:06 PM on February 14, 2007 [1 favorite]


You haven't seen a Columbian necktie until you've seen it on MyYouTubeRealMediaPlayerSpace. It really is a brave new world.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:15 PM on February 14, 2007


Damn. How did they get past the firewall. Guess we need to build a bigger one.
posted by toddbass10 at 2:17 PM on February 14, 2007


Jedi,

From the pamphlets I've been reading at the bake sales, most Mexican drug lords are demand-side oriented and sensitive to the social demands of their core customer. However, they also love shooting guns so gosh darn much and are therefore in a bit of a pickle as far as their supply chain integrity goes.
posted by jimmythefish at 2:24 PM on February 14, 2007


I eagerly await the day when 'net slang meets street slang - "Yo man, someone needs to 404 that snitch."
posted by Banky_Edwards at 3:00 PM on February 14, 2007


... oh my.

Perhaps the BBC should have picked a shot of the Mexican Policia Federal that didn't have four of them in the back of a pickup.
posted by kafziel at 3:41 PM on February 14, 2007


I wonder if they can't trace some of these IPs to get leads for investigations?
posted by Mitrovarr at 3:46 PM on February 14, 2007


Perhaps the BBC should have picked a shot of the Mexican Policia Federal that didn't have four of them in the back of a pickup.

When I drove up and down the west and east coasts of Mexico, that was a common site.
posted by YoBananaBoy at 3:51 PM on February 14, 2007


The Register had this story yesterday, with a pretty horrific still, plus YouTube links (which I didn't look it). You probably don't want to look at either.
posted by motty at 4:02 PM on February 14, 2007 [1 favorite]


Look at. Bah.
posted by motty at 4:02 PM on February 14, 2007


How fortunate it is, then, that google has shown no compunction about releasing user information. I'm sure that details about the posters will be forthcoming.
posted by boo_radley at 4:33 PM on February 14, 2007


@motty: I watched those youtube vids, and they aren't that specatcularly horrific. I've seen worse.
posted by kolophon at 4:53 PM on February 14, 2007


Well, if they're posting incriminating stuff--good. Myspace is already a great tool for cops because people are idiots and love to brag about breaking the law.
posted by Citizen Premier at 5:40 PM on February 14, 2007


I'm gonna pop a snark in your ass!
posted by Cyrano at 5:52 PM on February 14, 2007 [1 favorite]


It seems strange that, as the article points out, some of the clips "show people praising the heads of rival cartels." Is this a BBC mistake [?]

Yeah. That seems right. A journalistic brain fart. Or somethin'
posted by jason's_planet at 5:52 PM on February 14, 2007


The Register had this story yesterday, with a pretty horrific still, plus YouTube links (which I didn't look it). You probably don't want to look at either.


Thank you very much for posting that one.

The YouTube videos weren't so bad. The first one was a slide show of crime scenes, military cops and dealers, done over a rap background. The second one just displayed several gang emblems over a country-ish sounding tune (with English translation) about being in the Zetas, a group of renegade Special Forces soldiers who work for the cartels.

Not the stuff of which nightmares are made.
posted by jason's_planet at 6:09 PM on February 14, 2007


Some of this stuff has been taken down already.

But here's something that appears to be a bunch of homophobic taunts thrown at one gang (Not PC, Spanish lyrics probably Not Safe For Work)
posted by jason's_planet at 6:30 PM on February 14, 2007


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