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February 15, 2007 6:34 PM Subscribe
Feel like caging your retarded adopted kids in wire mesh and wood but don't want to spend more than 2 years in prison? Move to Ohio!
This post was deleted for the following reason: I know it's hard to believe, but icky child abuse stories really aren't the best of the web.
Finally! I've been lookin' fer a place like this...
It sucks always being persecuted for your beliefs.
posted by Balisong at 6:47 PM on February 15, 2007
It sucks always being persecuted for your beliefs.
posted by Balisong at 6:47 PM on February 15, 2007
So, weird story. We recently bought a house, and in the crawl space we found a little chicken-wire cage. There was carpet on the floor, and the door could be closed with a little slide bolt. There was also a little desk. The chicken-wire went all the way up to the ceiling of the crawl space.
After much speculation, we figured out that the family before us had kept a pet weasel down there.
But yeah, we're probably going to take it down.
posted by tfinniga at 7:06 PM on February 15, 2007
After much speculation, we figured out that the family before us had kept a pet weasel down there.
But yeah, we're probably going to take it down.
posted by tfinniga at 7:06 PM on February 15, 2007
Thin writeup and a lot of complications here.
Also, though they don't actually name it in the linked article, Pica sighting.
posted by cortex at 7:12 PM on February 15, 2007
Also, though they don't actually name it in the linked article, Pica sighting.
posted by cortex at 7:12 PM on February 15, 2007
God dropped the ball. Told 'em to adopt special needs kids, but didn't answer the follow-up questions.
It's called chicken-wire, not children-wire, for a reason, people.
posted by CKmtl at 7:37 PM on February 15, 2007
It's called chicken-wire, not children-wire, for a reason, people.
posted by CKmtl at 7:37 PM on February 15, 2007
It's all the social workers for the defense saying the caging and the locking in bathrooms was helpful that gets me.
It's horrible.
My aunt and uncle had foster kids for a while who had been badly abused. They had serious, violent behavior problems and the stress they caused took its toll on my aunt's health, and eventually my aunt and uncle had to throw up their hands and return the kids to the state. It was sad; there was so much they wanted to do but couldn't, and it broke their hearts. That's what you do with foster children you really can't handle: you give them up. You don't lock them in boxes.
You just don't.
posted by breezeway at 7:39 PM on February 15, 2007
It's horrible.
My aunt and uncle had foster kids for a while who had been badly abused. They had serious, violent behavior problems and the stress they caused took its toll on my aunt's health, and eventually my aunt and uncle had to throw up their hands and return the kids to the state. It was sad; there was so much they wanted to do but couldn't, and it broke their hearts. That's what you do with foster children you really can't handle: you give them up. You don't lock them in boxes.
You just don't.
posted by breezeway at 7:39 PM on February 15, 2007
HEALY
My real passion is
my hobby.
MARY
What's that?
HEALY
I work with retards.
MARY
(taken aback)
I beg your pardon?
HEALY
You know...
(flaps lips with fingers)
...the guys who ride the short bus.
MARY
(put off)
Isn't that a little politically incorrect?
HEALY
The hell with that. No one's gonna tell me
who I can and can't work with.
MARY
No, I mean
HEALY
--There's this one kid, we call him Mongo
on account of he's a mongoloid. He got out
of his cage once and--
MARY
--He's in a cage?!
HEALY
Well it's more of an enclosure really.
posted by sourwookie at 7:40 PM on February 15, 2007
My real passion is
my hobby.
MARY
What's that?
HEALY
I work with retards.
MARY
(taken aback)
I beg your pardon?
HEALY
You know...
(flaps lips with fingers)
...the guys who ride the short bus.
MARY
(put off)
Isn't that a little politically incorrect?
HEALY
The hell with that. No one's gonna tell me
who I can and can't work with.
MARY
No, I mean
HEALY
--There's this one kid, we call him Mongo
on account of he's a mongoloid. He got out
of his cage once and--
MARY
--He's in a cage?!
HEALY
Well it's more of an enclosure really.
posted by sourwookie at 7:40 PM on February 15, 2007
There was also a little desk. ...
After much speculation, we figured out that the family before us had kept a pet weasel down there.
OK, I have to ask. Why does a weasel need a desk? Is it self-employed? Did it do freelance marketing work? OMG ... Was there a phone on the desk?
I'm trying to figure out why it seems worse that they believe God asked them to do it.
Because it's more irresponsible, less thoughtful, and evades the process of reason. If I did something stupid or immoral, and I told you it was because I, having thought about it (obviously not too deeply), had come to the conclusion that that was what I ought to do, then I am acknowledging my own responsibility for the action, and I am still left capable, in your mind, of being convinced that I was wrong. But if I say "God told me to", I am evading responsibility (because the orders of God presumably ought to be obeyed without question), not acknowledging my own capacity for reasoned action, and it's going to be a lot harder, if it's possible at all, to convince me that I was wrong.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 7:40 PM on February 15, 2007
After much speculation, we figured out that the family before us had kept a pet weasel down there.
OK, I have to ask. Why does a weasel need a desk? Is it self-employed? Did it do freelance marketing work? OMG ... Was there a phone on the desk?
I'm trying to figure out why it seems worse that they believe God asked them to do it.
Because it's more irresponsible, less thoughtful, and evades the process of reason. If I did something stupid or immoral, and I told you it was because I, having thought about it (obviously not too deeply), had come to the conclusion that that was what I ought to do, then I am acknowledging my own responsibility for the action, and I am still left capable, in your mind, of being convinced that I was wrong. But if I say "God told me to", I am evading responsibility (because the orders of God presumably ought to be obeyed without question), not acknowledging my own capacity for reasoned action, and it's going to be a lot harder, if it's possible at all, to convince me that I was wrong.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 7:40 PM on February 15, 2007
Why did the state put 11 special-needs kids in one home with only two adults? Surely someone should have figured out that would be a bad situation.
posted by dilettante at 7:41 PM on February 15, 2007
posted by dilettante at 7:41 PM on February 15, 2007
Why did the state put 11 special-needs kids in one home with only two adults?
Bureaucracy. They likely got "lost in the shuffle."
posted by ericb at 8:25 PM on February 15, 2007
Bureaucracy. They likely got "lost in the shuffle."
posted by ericb at 8:25 PM on February 15, 2007
This was totally the plot from a Law and Order SVU episode from a couple of months ago.
posted by Rhomboid at 8:42 PM on February 15, 2007
posted by Rhomboid at 8:42 PM on February 15, 2007
Y'all who're thinking this set of events is somehow unique to Ohio haven't been around much, apparently .....
posted by blucevalo at 8:46 PM on February 15, 2007
posted by blucevalo at 8:46 PM on February 15, 2007
I love this comment: "I prayed constantly for the answer."
Maybe if she had THOUGHT instead, she would have come to the conclusion that she'd bitten off more than she could chew. But then again if she had send the kids back she would have lost out on all that lovely foster money.
Doesn't cost much to keep a kid half-starving on a bare, urine-soaked mattress - a lot less than the state paid them, I'll bet.
posted by watsondog at 10:02 PM on February 15, 2007
Maybe if she had THOUGHT instead, she would have come to the conclusion that she'd bitten off more than she could chew. But then again if she had send the kids back she would have lost out on all that lovely foster money.
Doesn't cost much to keep a kid half-starving on a bare, urine-soaked mattress - a lot less than the state paid them, I'll bet.
posted by watsondog at 10:02 PM on February 15, 2007
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