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	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:56:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The Cave Castle</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumpinjack/283738266/"&gt;The Castle in Front of the Cave&lt;/a&gt; is, unsurprisingly, a castle in Slovenia fully integrated with a cave system; built in several stages beginning in the 13th century, the castle &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbase.com/photog88/image/71909853&quot;&gt;serves as the front &lt;/a&gt;to a large network of caves in the side of a mountain.  This &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumpinjack/sets/72157594376590507/&quot;&gt;excellent flickr photoset&lt;/a&gt; has plenty more detail about the castle&apos;s history, defense systems &amp;amp; more.  For those who want more detail, a series of QTVR panoramic images of the insides of the castle &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burger.si/Predjama/2005/seznam.html&quot;&gt;available on this Slovenian site&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://neatorama.com&quot;&gt;Via&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:49:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonson</dc:creator>		<category>castles</category>		<category>slovenia</category>		<category>cave</category>		<category>spelunking</category>		<category>medieval</category>		<category>european</category>
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		<title>By: gottabefunky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596514</link>	
		<description>Holy frigging coolness.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:56:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596518</link>	
		<description>Castle: Cool
Cave: Really cool
Torture chamer: Awesome
3 foot wide &quot;tourmanent grounds&quot; right on the edge of a cliff: Priceless</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:59:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: owhydididoit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596520</link>	
		<description>That is just marvellous. I wanna go!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:00:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mister_A</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596532</link>	
		<description>This is the kind of house I always thought I&apos;d have, back when I was 8 and liked to think about what sort of house I&apos;d have when I was 37.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:07:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596533</link>	
		<description>Excellent!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:07:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Straightener</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596552</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s like totally black metal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:20:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pokermonk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596554</link>	
		<description>holy geez.

is this kind of construction (ie building that is ludicrous, breathtaking, monumental and largely inefficient in the same awed instant) to this degree done anymore?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:23:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: katillathehun</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596559</link>	
		<description>When I read the title, I thought this might have something to do with Nick Cave. Now that I know it isn&apos;t - the castle is amazing. Really beautiful. Except I&apos;ve got &quot;Stagger Lee&quot; in my head while looking at the photos, now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:29:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596578</link>	
		<description>Whatever. Drop me a line when they put in the underground sub base.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:39:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: taliaferro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596581</link>	
		<description>great find - amazing. Legos, anyone?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:41:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ljubljana</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596595</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s a fantastic castle and I would encourage anyone to visit if they can. (It&apos;s not too far from Venice.)

Also worth mentioning is that the caves of that region are host to some really odd creatures like &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olm&quot;&gt;Olms&lt;/a&gt;, alias Proteus, alias the &quot;Human Fish,&quot; which were in medieval times thought to be Baby Dragons. If you take a tour of the caves you&apos;ll see them. And if you&apos;re lucky you might also find &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anophthalmus_hitleri&quot;&gt;anophthalmus hitleri&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (The Hitler Beetle) which can fetch upwards of &#163;1000 a pop on the black market.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:51:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ljubljana</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Cranberry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596598</link>	
		<description>It looked like a great idea - virtually endless room to store all those things that just can&apos;t be discarded. But the existence of an outhouse is a deal breaker. Even if no one fires a cannon at it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:53:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rob511</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596630</link>	
		<description>Now, &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;&apos;s a panic room! Rumor has it, if you whisper &quot;Frau Blucher&quot; on a moonless night into the mouth of the cave ...

And ljubljana, love the added local color! From the wiki link on the &quot;human fish&quot;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In one reported case, an olm* was placed in a jar in a refrigerator for more than a decade. It was reportedly still alive when finally removed, though with severe damage to its internal organs, including the reabsorption of its own digestive tract for sustenance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;small&gt;*&quot;Stargate&quot; fans will know the olm by its other name, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa&apos;uld&quot;&gt;Goa&apos;uld&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:18:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dataphage</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596648</link>	
		<description>The best trip I&apos;ve ver had was to Croatia and Slovenia. Our guide was my sister&apos;s Serbian boyfriend, who spoke a bunch of languages. That made a big difference, prices in restaurants in tourist areas magically changed when he ordered. Anyway, &quot;pivo Zlatorog, veliko&quot; is all you need to know.

These caves RULE. There is an artificial stone pool where you can see, and touch if you are sneaky, the Olms. 

As Ljubljana says, anyone doing the traditional European tours should take a small detour here.

I wonder how many new McDonalds and Starbucks have set up shop since.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:36:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: octothorpe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596683</link>	
		<description>Wow, pretty much a real life Helms Deep.  Very cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:58:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596719</link>	
		<description>I stayed in a cave hotel in Cappadocia, Turkey. Ever since, I&apos;ve REALLY wanted me one of them there cave houses. Amazingly comfortable! They totally rock. &lt;small&gt;Bad pun aside.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:21:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ljubljana</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596734</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;prices in restaurants in tourist areas magically changed when he ordered&lt;/em&gt;

It&apos;s funny cause &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carniola.org/2004/10/a-fair-price-to-pay.htm&quot;&gt;it&apos;s true&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;(self-link, careful)&lt;/small&gt;

&quot;&lt;em&gt;pivo Zlatorog, veliko&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

I think you just won a place in my heart. But you&apos;ll be happy to hear that Starbucks hasn&apos;t made it over yet, and I don&apos;t think you can find a McDonald&apos;s anywhere near this particular castle. There are plenty of them around, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:37:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ljubljana</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jumpin Jack Flash</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596891</link>	
		<description>&quot;Whatever. Drop me a line when they put in the underground sub base.&quot;

Brundlefly, check the second link and hit next. The sub base is there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:58:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zoinks</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596930</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;...Erazem allegedly catapulted a roasted ox from the castle...&quot;  &lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:33:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dejah420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596989</link>	
		<description>I am officially in real estate lust.  I want one!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:32:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1597176</link>	
		<description>oooh, What a cool castle! Neat post, as usual jonson. Something fiercely elegant about the place.

Loved the bizarre and interesting detail about the olms. Thanks Ljubljana. More about this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.istrianet.org/istria/fauna/amphibians/proteus-hodalic.htm&quot;&gt;mysterious&lt;/a&gt; dragon baby &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.istrianet.org/istria/fauna/amphibians/proteus-anguinus1.htm&quot;&gt;creature&lt;/a&gt;.

Pic of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elkepevi.com/galeripopup/GP-070.html&quot;&gt;pretty cave hotel &lt;/a&gt;in Turkey.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:25:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1597274</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Jumpin Jack Flash&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1596891&apos;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;Brundlefly, check the second link and hit next. The sub base is there.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Indeed.

*scratches goatee*

Indeeeed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:53:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ereshkigal45</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1597411</link>	
		<description>Reminds me a little bit of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Felsenkirche_Idar_Oberstein.jpg&quot;&gt;church&lt;/a&gt; in Idar-Oberstein.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:56:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/58806/The-Cave-Castle#1597433</link>	
		<description>Wow, Nicky - that place is gorgeous - thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:26:42 -0800</pubDate>
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