Comments on: O'Reilly Interviews Marilyn Manson

O'Reilly Interviews Marilyn Manson

five fresh fish — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:50:48 -0800

Whu? Bill O'Reilly does a respectably good interview with... Marilyn Manson! This is surprising on so many levels. And the content, superb. Well worth the viewing. [video link] via Cyberdork via Reddit

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:59:03 -0800

I've heard Manson talk before. To my surprise, he was remarkably well-spoken and reasonable. I expected he'd eat O'Reilly alive, having by far the better wit and clarity of thought. Much to my surprise he appeared in costume (but didn't play the role) and much to my surprise O'Reilly did not play his tyrant character role. The video is worth listening to. Manson speaks well and is an artist who challenges traditional values and thinking.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:02:19 -0800

(Er, I was surprised the first time I heard him. This time I expected him to be his non-role self, and looked forward to hearing what he'd say. I also expected O'Reilly to play the bully pulpit role, which is why I expected Manson to eat him alive. It'd have been an unfair fight of wits. Which I kinda figure O'Reilly figured out pretty quick, hence the half-hearted questioning. Heh. bleargh. can't write worth a damn today.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:04:53 -0800

Maybe Bill wants a crack at Dita.

By: Scoo

Scoo — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:07:19 -0800

I have to agree, he is a bright, thoughtful fellow. It would be refreshing to see more of this side of him; his whole nightmare aesthetic is totally tapped out at this point. Perhaps he'll write some essays.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:08:11 -0800

Although he should probably ask about her position on falafel first.

By: emelenjr

emelenjr — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:11:52 -0800

He's so well-spoken! (By the way, that clip is about five years old.)

By: inconsequentialist

inconsequentialist — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:15:44 -0800

He's so articulate!

By: nola

nola — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:16:17 -0800

Back when Bill was just a young pup.

By: maryh

maryh — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:16:51 -0800

And a real nice lookin' guy!

By: sourwookie

sourwookie — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:19:54 -0800

He does know a thing or two about parenting.

By: octothorpe

octothorpe — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:19:59 -0800

And clean too.

By: evil holiday magic

evil holiday magic — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:22:32 -0800

I suppose they're both intelligent, but I really think they only offer shock value rather than challenging ideas.

By: nola

nola — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:23:36 -0800

Is it just me or does it seem like the unspoken line Bill should be saying with every question he ever asks should go something like this . . ."A lot of old people think . . ." or "Don't you think old people deserve an explanation for . . ."

By: bardic

bardic — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:24:08 -0800

Alice Cooper is a scratch golfer.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:27:00 -0800

Dee Snider sung in the church choir.

By: lee

lee — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:27:09 -0800

Eh, I'll take Frank Zappa!

By: queenofthegeeks

queenofthegeeks — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:27:41 -0800

Speaking for myself, I am both attracted and repulsed by Manson. Do I listen to his music? Yes. Do I make it a lifestyle? No. Now what do I do with myself? I like Bill's show and Manson's music. I am sooo going to have to go back to therapy... I think both make pretty good points though. I don't think you can discount the impact Manson might have on a confused kid (or adult for that matter), but you can't blame him for someone's misinterpretation either. A mini-van driving soccer-mom-looking-mom listening to Marilyn Manson. I'm pretty sure he'd think that's cool. (and so f**king what if he doesn't ;o)

By: evil holiday magic

evil holiday magic — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:31:59 -0800

Eh, I'll take Frank Zappa! Yeah, Zappa doesn't mince words or need a faux-Bowie eye.

By: inoculatedcities

inoculatedcities — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:44:41 -0800

I'm sorry, even political disagreements aside I take serious issue with the assertion that Bill O'Reilly is an intelligent person. Maybe the word has a different connotation to you...

By: nola

nola — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:49:02 -0800

All i know is that clown gangs can be intimidating.

By: bardic

bardic — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:49:14 -0800

Hehe. Chaim Witz (aka Gene Simmons) was a good Jewish boy studying to be a rabbi before forming KISS. People assume a lot about rockstars. What they seem to forget is that becoming insanely wealthy through presenting a fake image to teenagers takes some work. It ain't rocket surgery, but it doesn't happen by accident either.

By: stinkycheese

stinkycheese — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:54:19 -0800

Hey jon, they is splitsville.

By: WCityMike

WCityMike — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:59:10 -0800

Eh, I'll take Frank Zappa! Yeah, one small problem with that.

By: mullingitover

mullingitover — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:07:29 -0800

The Donahue interview is far better.

By: evil holiday magic

evil holiday magic — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:17:56 -0800

I'm sorry, even political disagreements aside I take serious issue with the assertion that Bill O'Reilly is an intelligent person. Maybe the word has a different connotation to you... I think Bill's just as fake and contrived as Brian could ever hope to be. I'm not saying he's humble, informed or great at reasoning; but, like other talking heads, he knows how to keep the rubes watching.

By: pruner

pruner — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:18:35 -0800

jonmc - Maybe Bill wants a crack at Dita. if so, he doesn't need Marilyn's approval anymore.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:22:10 -0800

Well, Bill's never been the quickest cat. Maybe he just wants Marilyn to help him meet burlesque chicks.

By: drjimmy11

drjimmy11 — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:23:59 -0800

"Marilyn Manson now going door to door trying to shock people" - Onion headline

By: maryh

maryh — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:37:26 -0800

Well well well, "Brian Warner"... Or should I call you James? It's time to stop running and own your inner wuss, son.

By: dglynn

dglynn — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:58:51 -0800

I thought everyone knew Manson was a thoughtful fellow from Michael Moore's interview with him in Bowling for Columbine. And if O'Reilly seems coherent, then it shows how much carnival barker he's absorbed in the last 5 years. I heard Rush Limbaugh two days in a row after not hearing him at all for five years, and he sounded like he had gone way further around the bend even from his previous state of residence around the first bend. Apparently the past 7 years have not been kind to Brokaw and Russert's co-host for NBC's primetime election night 2000 coverage.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:19:56 -0800

Aha! BfC, that was the first time I'd seen him interviewed!

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:30:31 -0800

What struck me is that the reason it's such a good interview -- Marilyn Manson being an articulate & intelligent guy aside -- is because BILL O'REILLY DIDN'T INTERRUPT. Seems to me he has such a tendency to do that. Maybe he was scared to interrupt the guy staring at him with a white eyeball, I don't know. But Marilyn Manson was able to complete his answers & thoughts and he was listened to, and that was interesting. He wasn't being corrected or disputed & talked over the whole time, which is something I've seen in an awful lot of Bill O'Reilly interviews.

By: jefbla

jefbla — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:29:00 -0800

Eh, I'll take Frank Zappa! posted by lee There's an old Zappa clip where he was on the Steve Allen Show in the early 60's. Zappa plays a bicycle and it is entertaining to watch. It has nothing to do with anything in this thread, but it's fun. Watch it here.

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:57:30 -0800

bardic: "Hehe. Chaim Witz (aka Gene Simmons) was a good Jewish boy studying to be a rabbi before forming KISS." Gene Simmons and Krusty the Klown: brothers beneath the greasepaint.

By: Drexen

Drexen — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:15:51 -0800

This is completely unsubstantiated, but I'm going to go ahead and assert that Bill O'Reilly wishes he could just drop the whole stiff-suited fighting-Irish persona and run away with Manson to a squat in downtown Berlin, get into some studded leather overalls with a silk peacock ruff, and rest his New Rocks on the back of some silent mime-masked submissive while hot-knifing a coin of Thai opium between two fake-blood-stained Nazi daggers.

By: Meatbomb

Meatbomb — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:37:28 -0800

Where can I sign up, Drexen?

By: VirtualWolf

VirtualWolf — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:55:54 -0800

miss lynnster: I've only seen the barest handful of O'Reilly, and that immediately jumped out at me too.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:43:49 -0800

bill o'reilly's thing is to make his interviewees seem like half-baked liberal fiends how does one do that with a guy who's wearing white makeup, lipstick, a captain's hat and has two different colored eyeballs? ... to his average viewer, marilyn's going to look like the freakiest thing in the world ... all bill has to do is act polite and let him talk for himself ... his audience does the rest ... you don't have to play the theater of outrage with the outrageous and bill knows that

By: XQUZYPHYR

XQUZYPHYR — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:08:19 -0800

I guess not a lot of people here saw Bowling for Columbine, which also featured a (albiet shorter) interview with Manson that many people considered the most intelligent and articulate part of the entire movie- in fact, he says a lot of the same answers in the movie that he said here. To be honest the bigger surprise here for me isn't that Manson is an intelligent person but that he's still around and relevant enough to be interviewed on a major news channel. (Unless this was a clip from, like, four years ago or something; I'm not entirely sure)

By: rmmcclay

rmmcclay — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:09:06 -0800

I didn't know anything about Marilyn Manson until I watched this and I was pleasantly surprised to listen to an articulate, intelligent artist who easily handled and even appreciated Loofa's typical attack-the-guest style of interview. I have a new respect for Marilyn Manson and actually feel like I know something about him now. As a parent I know it would be convenient to blame an artist like Manson any problems my children have. =)

By: cilantro

cilantro — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:12:01 -0800

Last year, after my friend Annmarie was killed in an alligator attack, another friend, Robert, was interviewed about it on Bill O'Reilly. It was awesome to see weird little gay-boy art-fag Robert in his thrift store glasses and self-hacked mullet, wearing a shirt he screen-printed himself, up on the screen talking to Bill O'Reilly. It was completely surreal. He had a minute to talk to Bill on the sattelite hook-up before he went live, he tried to show him some of Annmarie's art and tell him a little bit about her, Bill completely blew him off, and when they went live, asked stupid questions like 'was she a risk-taker?', as if trying to place some blame on her for the attack, when he knew full well that she had been swimming in a place where all kinds of other people swam all the time. It looks like he was a little more respectful to Marilyn Manson. I like Marilyn, I hate his music but he seems pretty together and friendly and low-key. I wouldn't have been able to be so cool and polite to O'Reilly, no way.

By: leftcoastbob

leftcoastbob — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:24:19 -0800

I can't agree more, XQUZYPHYR. My first exposure to Marilyn Manson's eloquent speaking was on Bowling for Columbine and I came away highly impressed. He came across as lucid and insightful--especially juxtaposed to Charlton Heston who came across as either a raving looney or a dottering old man.

By: parmanparman

parmanparman — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:04:26 -0800

This must be really old, notice there is no scroll at the bottom the Fox screen.

By: Jody Tresidder

Jody Tresidder — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:00:59 -0800

Loved it, thanks. Though odd to be muttering to myself "quit being so smarmy, Marilyn!".

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:22:37 -0800

"Charlton Heston who came across as either a raving looney or a dottering old man." It's called alzheimers disease. Fun to laugh at isn't it?

By: WinnipegDragon

WinnipegDragon — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:23:42 -0800

Manson's finest work: The ancient Pharaohs weren't to bright they say, But they made one contribution that I live by to this day, It's the food pyramid and it's approved by the USDA! Oh, grains are the foundation, So please take my advice, Have 5 to 11 servings, Of bread, cereal or rice, 3 to 5 of vegetables, And 4 of fruits fruits is best, Their anti-oxidants and fibers, Help you to digest, 3 servings of yogurt, milk and cheese! Will help your bones, And subsidize the cattle industries, A body needs to grow, And growing takes proteins, That's why meat can be a tasty treat, Like fish or human beings, And when you eat your sweets, Be sure you try, To limit your servings, Or you'll DIE! Everybody! My body is a pyramid, That's made of healthy food, So do what we say, (yeah!) Eat right everyday, (boo!) I... love... you! Buy American!

By: WinnipegDragon

WinnipegDragon — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:30:56 -0800

And the video to go with the lyrics... No idea if the site (grouper.com) is NSFW or what...

By: MapGuy

MapGuy — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:50:40 -0800

Manson muses. I like his music it has a good beat and it is easy to dance to. "The beautiful people, the beautiful people, Ahhhh."

By: Ruki

Ruki — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:57:32 -0800

But is it as good as Marilyn Manson and Mrs. Brady teaming up on Politically Incorrect?

By: Rashomon

Rashomon — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:54:35 -0800

This interview is five years old - before O'Reilly became really popular and got on his high moralistic horse.

By: fandango_matt

fandango_matt — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:44:59 -0800

"Charlton Heston who came across as either a raving looney or a dottering old man." posted by vronsky It's called Alzheimers disease. Fun to laugh at isn't it? Oh, we're not laughing at Alzheimer's. We're laughing at Charlton Heston, who is a mildly-retarded racist asshole who richly deserves every bit of mockery and scorn he receives.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:33:20 -0800

That would it explain it all. Now it feels like I've made a fraudulent front page post.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:40:56 -0800

really matt? The star of the greatest sci fi movie ever made deserves to have his alzheimers disease mocked and ridiculed by some grotesquely fat third rate propagandist. Have you ever had a family member suffer from alzheimers? You seemed smarter than this. Guess I was wrong.

By: coust

coust — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:27:12 -0800

Charlton Heston was in Empire Strikes Back?!?!

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:29:22 -0800

No, but your mom was.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:55:19 -0800

charlton heston was in plan 9 from outer space?

By: vronsky

vronsky — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:09:48 -0800

If you must know PT, I was referring to "The Ten Commandments."

By: vronsky

vronsky — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:42:57 -0800

but seriously: Touch of Evil Ben-Hur Planet of the Apes Beneath the Planet of the Apes The Omega Man Soylent Green Airport 1975 Earthquake Wayne's World 2 and 2 SNL's matt's got some netflixing to do

By: fandango_matt

fandango_matt — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:07:15 -0800

I'm familiar with Heston's movies and his NRA speeches, thanks. Perhaps if you saw Bowling For Columbine and listened carefully to what Charlton Heston says you'd wouldn't be so willing to defend him. And I'm more familiar with Alzheimer's than you'll ever know, you sanctimonius little asshole.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:35:43 -0800

O I'm a big asshole matt, but what part of - he was in the early/mid stages of alzheimers disease when that was filmed - do you not comprehend? Not mildly retarded. If you truly did understand this or have a family member suffering from it you wouldn't make such blithely idiotic comments.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:01:24 -0800

vronsky, did you see the interview? Heston was a bigoted, intolerant jerk loooong before he was struck with Alzheimer's. The disease didn't cause him to be so, it let it leak out without filtering.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:02:33 -0800

And speaking of Marilyn Manson, I stumbled across this today: lots of videos et al.

By: leftcoastbob

leftcoastbob — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:33:24 -0800

Who crapped in your corn flakes, vronsky? He was the spokesperson for the NRA, giving speeches for them and said some horribly racist things in Bowling. Sorry about your family member, but the discussion was not about him/her. You might do a lot better if you adjusted your filter a bit.