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	<title>Comments on: Steampunk Star Wars</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:26:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Steampunk Star Wars</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://ericpoulton.blogspot.com/search/label/steampunk%20star%20wars"&gt;Steampunk Star Wars.&lt;/a&gt; An ongoing series of drawings by Eric Poulton of Star Wars characters redone in the style of Jules Verne era sci-fi.  Sadly only three have been done, so far, but hopefully more to come.  &lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2007/03/steampunk_meets.html&quot;&gt;Via&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:24:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonson</dc:creator>		<category>steampunk</category>		<category>scifi</category>		<category>starwars</category>		<category>art</category>
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		<title>By: grobstein</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606793</link>	
		<description>This rules. I especially liked &lt;a href=&quot;http://ericpoulton.blogspot.com/2007/02/steampunk-star-wars-han-solo-mr.html&quot;&gt;Han and Mr. Chewbacca&lt;/a&gt;, and the little &quot;Han shot first&quot; nudge was cute.</description>
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		<title>By: Faint of Butt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606795</link>	
		<description>These are awesome. I hope he does more.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:28:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grubi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606796</link>	
		<description>OH MY GOD yes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:28:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: damn dirty ape</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606801</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;the little &quot;Han shot first&quot; nudge was cute.&lt;/i&gt;

What do you mean? Maybe I&apos;m missing the obvious but Im not see a reference to that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:34:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: splice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606811</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Solo is also known for his quick draw with a pistol. He boasts that of all the men he&apos;s shot, not a single one was able to shoot first.&lt;/i&gt;

It&apos;s in the blog entry along with the pic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:37:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lekvar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606812</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Han Solo &amp;amp; Mr. Chewbacca&lt;/b&gt;
Han Solo is a notorious gambler, con artist and smuggler. Mr. Chewbacca is his Wookiee partner in crime. The duo is wanted by both the Empire and a number of underworld crime lords, but they manage to stay one step ahead of their pursuers thanks to their ship, the Millennium Falcon, said to be the fastest ship in the galaxy. Solo is also known for his quick draw with a pistol. &lt;i&gt;He boasts that of all the men he&apos;s shot, not a single one was able to shoot first.&lt;/i&gt;

Emphasis mine.

Yeah, that&apos;s some fine illustratin&apos;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:37:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lekvar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606829</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Lord Vader... is a master with the traditional weapon of Force champions, the Phlogisticated Aether Torch, more commonly referred to as the phlogisabre.&lt;/i&gt;

Man, that&apos;s great.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:55:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pardonyou?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606845</link>	
		<description>The Vader picture is amazing.  I wish post larger pictures to fully appreciate some of the detail -- the compass over the eye, the exposed breathing tube, the heart box, the gauge above the elbow.  Fantastic!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:05:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brownpau</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606848</link>	
		<description>&quot;Steampunk?&quot; What kind of lame, asshattish, wannabemo, 2.0 kind of genre label for &quot;Victorian&quot; is that? Next thing you know they&apos;ll be calling Passion of the Christ and Life of Brian &quot;Jewpunk&quot; or something.

Oh, and yes, very cool drawings.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:10:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GuyZero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606853</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk&quot;&gt;Steampunk &lt;/a&gt;is hardly new. As a matter of fact, Firefox 2.0 doesn&apos;t even flag the word as a spelling error.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:14:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JeremyT</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606857</link>	
		<description>Steampunk  was coined in the science fiction print world in the 1980s.  It stems from cyberpunk.  It predates &quot;web 2.0&quot; by at least a decade, if not two.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:17:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XQUZYPHYR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606859</link>	
		<description>Really cool.  Like most steampunk stuff the little details are what make it awesome.  The lightsaber description sold the Vader drawing for me.  Steampunk is one of those styles where you have to be able to draw so many awesome perfect details like that.

Strangely, I kind of think the current version of &lt;em&gt;Doctor Who&lt;/em&gt; is almost a Steampunk-eque Star Wars.  It&apos;s space travel and aliens with a ship and pilot that has a somewhat Victorian clockwork feel to it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:23:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: designbot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606867</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newvoices.org/cgi-bin/articlepage.cgi?id=479&quot;&gt;Jew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/ae/books/articles/2006/12/04/author_thoroughly_examines_the_jewish_roots_of_punk_rock/&quot;&gt;punk&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:29:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sangermaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606871</link>	
		<description>While &lt;strong&gt;brownpau&lt;/strong&gt; seems to be a bit out of the sci-fi loop, I think he has a point.  If you take &quot;steampunk&quot; to mean anything set in Victorian-Edwardian times and features fantastic &quot;modern yet antique&quot; technology, then this fits.  But I always that as a genre steampunk was more about the attitude of the stories, ala cyberpunk.  Cyberpunk isn&apos;t unique because it features implants and corporations and such, it&apos;s the infusion of &quot;punk&quot; outlook on society into traditional sci-fi.  Steampunk, I think, is more about transporting the cyberpunk attitude (mostly bleak, anti-authority, dystopian) to the Victorian-Edwardian era.  So not everything in such a setting would be steampunk, and certainly not Star Wars if you&apos;re judging by the feel of the story.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:40:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: squidfartz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606874</link>	
		<description>Not was I was expecting.
Wonderful stuff.
Nice post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:41:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brownpau</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606878</link>	
		<description>I was kidding. I&apos;ve heard of steampunk. I just hate the word. So much. MUST. SMASH.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:44:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sotonohito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606885</link>	
		<description>I can see your point Sangermaine, but I think you&apos;re facing an uphill battle if you want people to start labeling their non-punk Victorian stuff &quot;Victorian&quot;.  Its appropriate, but like getting people to stop using the word &quot;hacker&quot; as a synonym for &quot;computer criminal&quot; [1] I just don&apos;t see it happening.

As for this in particular, for some reason it just doesn&apos;t get me going.  Most Steam Age stuff utterly thrills me, but for some reason this one left me a bit flat.  Vader, especially, bugged me.  He&apos;s supposed to be a dark lord of the Sith, he should be able to stand upright damnit.



[1] One of my own pet peeves.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:52:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sotonohito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606887</link>	
		<description>Also, where did Han Solo&apos;s space captain pants go?  You know, the pants with the vertial stripe of darker and shiney fabric running down each leg?  I&apos;m convinced that Malcom Reynolds wears that style of pants as an homage; Reynolds is a better roguish captain than Solo ever was, but still props to the original. 

Much as the art doesn&apos;t do much for me, I do like his descriptions.  The one for Jabba the Hut was especially nice.  &quot;Sarlaac Silk&quot;, heh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:57:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: niles</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606899</link>	
		<description>sotonohito: You mean his Corellian blood stripe?

And yes, this is great. more, please!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:11:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hincandenza</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606912</link>	
		<description>Unrelated to anything, the author links to &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/01/steampunk_light.html&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Wired blurb about the &quot;steampunk lightsaber&quot; as his inspiration for these drawings.  That Wired blurb uses the unusual word &quot;metempsychosis&quot;, and I was shocked- SHOCKED!- to find the Wiki entry on &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metempsychosis&quot;&gt;memetpsychosis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; does not list Infinite Jest as one of its cultural references.  WTF, Wiki?!?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:18:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606916</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Its appropriate, but like getting people to stop using the word &quot;hacker&quot; as a synonym for &quot;computer criminal&quot; [1] I just don&apos;t see it happening.&lt;/i&gt;

Calling hackers hackers is a completely reasonable thing to do. Also steam punk doesn&apos;t mean &quot;Victorian&quot; I mean, Victorian refers to an actual historical time period, whereas steampunk refers to a hyper-attenuated vision of Victorian mores, styles, with technological capabilities at least as advanced as modern electronics. 

I mean you wouldn&apos;t call &lt;i&gt;Sense and sensibility&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Pride and prejudice&lt;/i&gt; Steampunk novels. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_literature&quot;&gt;compare&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk&quot;&gt;contrast&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:25:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: juv3nal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606929</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m with sangermaine. It&apos;s not just the tech that makes steampunk steampunk. I don&apos;t know what common usage entails, but IMO Jules Verne, for instance, doesn&apos;t count.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:35:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: It&apos;s Raining Florence Henderson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606930</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sense and Sensibility&lt;/em&gt; was &lt;em&gt;totally &lt;/em&gt;steampunk! &quot;&lt;em&gt;Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds. Or bends with the remover to remove. Oh no! It is an ever fixed mark that looks on tempests and is never shaken. Willoughby. Willoughby. Willoughby... Bring me my absinthe, bitch!&lt;/em&gt;&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:36:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606952</link>	
		<description>delmoi : &lt;em&gt;Victorian refers to an actual historical time period, whereas steampunk refers to a hyper-attenuated vision of Victorian mores, styles, with technological capabilities at least as advanced as modern electronics.&lt;/em&gt;

Very well said. 

I didn&apos;t actually see the steampunk in the first picture of Jabba, but as soon as I saw Chewbacca&apos;s weapon, I knew it was an accurate description.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:49:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606954</link>	
		<description>I hate to say it but: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston_theory&quot;&gt;phlogiston&lt;/a&gt; is a 17th century idea best described perhaps as a &apos;theory of heat&apos; but encompasses ideas the modern reader wouldn&apos;t consider too scientific and long dsicredited by the 19th century, the high-point of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether&quot;&gt;luminiferous aether.&lt;/a&gt; So the &lt;i&gt;Phlogisticated Aether Torch&lt;/i&gt; is a bit of a malapropism both from the perspective of the history of science, and science since it was never a &quot;heat-light saber&quot;...

there I said it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:50:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sticherbeast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606980</link>	
		<description>I love Mr. Chewbacca. He looks like a Dog Playing Poker.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:17:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wendell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606984</link>	
		<description>Also from this blogger: &lt;a href=&quot;http://ericpoulton.blogspot.com/2006/12/help-im-stuck-in-giant-hot-dog.html&quot;&gt;Help! I&apos;m stuck in a giant hot dog!&lt;/a&gt;

And wouldn&apos;t the original &quot;Wild Wild West&quot; TV show (Robert Conrad &amp;amp; Ross Martin) be considered early-Steampunk or proto-Steampunk ?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:19:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bardic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1606986</link>	
		<description>I like.  But he needs to draw a robot or a space ship, since those are just as much &quot;characters&quot; in the Star Wars universe.

What would a 19th century Millenium Falcon look like?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:22:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smedleyman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607008</link>	
		<description>My lad/lady R3b3cca and I twould enjoy coal fired steamed punk late afternoons &apos;pon the m00rs, what?

Darth&apos;s still the sire then?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:39:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smedleyman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607012</link>	
		<description>(Billy Dee Williams&apos; be a tough translation to steampunk. He&apos;s just too damned smooth)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:40:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: winna</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607023</link>	
		<description>You think Billy Dee would be tough?

Give Edward VII some brass and wood and leather gear. There you go.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:46:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aladfar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607040</link>	
		<description>Splendid! Vader&apos;s WWI era spiked helmet is &lt;em&gt;perfect&lt;/em&gt;. I can&apos;t wait to see how this develops.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:01:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bardic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607050</link>	
		<description>Vader kind of looks like the mechanical bad-guy from Hell Boy.  Forget his name.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:18:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bardic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tickingclock</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607062</link>	
		<description>Damn, that&apos;s great stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:32:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sponge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607090</link>	
		<description>OH MY GOD no</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:14:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sponge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Balisong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607094</link>	
		<description>No way Chewie would wear a bow tie.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:19:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Balisong</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SPrintF</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607095</link>	
		<description>This is, in a word, awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:19:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sotonohito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607100</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;delmoi&lt;/b&gt; As far as &quot;Victorian&quot; goes, I supposed I should have said &quot;Victorian styled&quot;, though as I also said I&apos;m sure that there&apos;s no point in fighting the trend.  Steampunk is the generally accepted term for modern Victorian styled stuff.

As far as &lt;i&gt;&quot;Calling hackers hackers is a completely reasonable thing to do&quot;&lt;/i&gt; goes, I suspect that you&apos;re being snarky, but I&apos;ll bite.  I mentioned that I have largely given up, but the origin of the word had squat to do with crime, and it remains used in a non-criminal sense among many computer geeks.  

The term, in its modern usage, originated at the tech model railroad club at MIT back in the late 1950&apos;s and had absolutely no meaning of &quot;criminal&quot;.  It remains in use in its original sense among many computer geeks today, and it is only among non-geeks that the word has mutated to mean &quot;computer criminal&quot;.  A hacker can be a computer criminal, but not all hackers are; neither are all computer criminals are hackers.

Like I said, I&apos;ve mostly given up trying to fight it though, common usage almost always wins over correct usage.

On topic, I&apos;ll agree with the people saying that they&apos;d like to see how he sees the ships and robots.  Mostly the ships since I didn&apos;t like how he drew Vadar.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:21:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sotonohito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607104</link>	
		<description>Gaah.  Forgot to cut a sentence, so I got repetative there, sorry.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:25:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: psmith</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607127</link>	
		<description>derail, sorry.

&lt;i&gt;Like I said, I&apos;ve mostly given up trying to fight it though, common usage almost always wins over correct usage.&lt;/i&gt;

I am absolutely with you on the history of the word and its current bifurcated meanings, but when &quot;common usage&quot; is so massively predominant as it is for &quot;hacker&quot; now, doesn&apos;t it de facto become a correct usage?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:23:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: breezeway</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607162</link>	
		<description>And here I thought a hacker was a rotten duffer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:15:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smedleyman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607209</link>	
		<description>Billy Dee....&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes5/jedi140.jpeg&quot;&gt;hmmm&lt;/a&gt;....
Nah. Lobot maybe. Although I&apos;d like to see a steampunk explaination of &lt;a href=&quot;http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/00/250px-Billydeesign.jpg&quot;&gt;National Bohemian malt liquours in the preferred 1.3 litres.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:43:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sotonohito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607327</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;psmith&lt;/b&gt; I&apos;d argue that it becomes an acceptable alternate usage, but it still bugs me.  I mean, why not just say &quot;criminal&quot;?  But yeah, much as I dislike it the term as a synonym for criminal is used often enough to be acceptable in that sense. Which is why I gave up fighting it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:41:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607380</link>	
		<description>The key to Steampunk is anachronism, IMO.  If you tell a science fiction story in the victorian era, using only victorian era technology and ideas, then you are doing victorian science fiction.

It becomes steampunk when you retrofit modern ideas into the victorian time period, using victorian (or victorian-esque) technology.

For example, if you tell a story about travelling to the moon on a shell fired from an artillery cannon, that&apos;s not steampunk.  If you tell a story about a space-elevator, or satellites, or biological warfare, and especially anything involving computers, then it becomes steampunk.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:37:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dr_dank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607448</link>	
		<description>I love it, even if Chewbacca looks like Scooby Doo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:41:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kwine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1607566</link>	
		<description>Nice post, thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:11:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kwine</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: quite unimportant</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59075/Steampunk-Star-Wars#1608477</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;What would a 19th century Millenium Falcon look like?&lt;/i&gt;

I&apos;d imagine something like what&apos;s flying around in &lt;a href=http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2007/01/the_mysterious_.html#more&gt;this short.&lt;/a&gt; 

Another fine jonson steampunk [NOT VICTORIAN, GO BUY &apos;THE DIFFERENCE ENGINE&apos; FOR GOD&apos;S SAKE] post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:35:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quite unimportant</dc:creator>
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