Mac VS PC
March 3, 2007 4:33 PM Subscribe
Mac VS PC And this time PC is the cool guy and Mac is the stooge! Gems like "Mac works for PC", "PC gets the girl." and "Mac may be cool but PC has the money." (Quicktime links)
I agree although "Mac works for PC had a few moments". I think it's funny that this guy is trying to turn around these ads to make the Mac ads look stupid and well, doesn't really do it. It's kind of embarrassing actually. Kind of like Fox News doing a ripoff of the Daily Show to me...
posted by tatnasty at 4:43 PM on March 3, 2007
posted by tatnasty at 4:43 PM on March 3, 2007
One of these was funny
posted by Senor Cardgage at 4:48 PM on March 3, 2007
posted by Senor Cardgage at 4:48 PM on March 3, 2007
So, in this case "cool guy" equals "pompous jerk?" What tatnasty said.
posted by lordrunningclam at 4:50 PM on March 3, 2007
posted by lordrunningclam at 4:50 PM on March 3, 2007
the whole debate is moronic. the products sell themselves infinately better than their ads. not that they've sold me yet. they're getting there, though.
posted by Busithoth at 5:00 PM on March 3, 2007
posted by Busithoth at 5:00 PM on March 3, 2007
wow, I misspelled a word that's used in the banner of the link.
nice. I blame my PC.
posted by Busithoth at 5:02 PM on March 3, 2007
nice. I blame my PC.
posted by Busithoth at 5:02 PM on March 3, 2007
wierdo : (Quicktime links)
Is that irony, or something else entirely?
i·ro·ny
n. pl. i·ro·nies
...
2. b. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity.
I'm going to have to go with 'the very definition of...'
posted by quin at 5:06 PM on March 3, 2007
Is that irony, or something else entirely?
i·ro·ny
n. pl. i·ro·nies
...
2. b. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity.
I'm going to have to go with 'the very definition of...'
posted by quin at 5:06 PM on March 3, 2007
I really wanted to like these, but man... they really suck. At least they are better produced than most Mac vs. PC Spinoffs.
posted by patr1ck at 5:09 PM on March 3, 2007
posted by patr1ck at 5:09 PM on March 3, 2007
This Mac VS PC spoof has become a little industry unto itself... Most of 'em are probably about as lame as the originals they mock.
PS3 VS Toaster should've been a lot better, still it's maybe worth a view, if you've got nothing better to do at the moment. From Gizmodo's "Top 5" here.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:14 PM on March 3, 2007
PS3 VS Toaster should've been a lot better, still it's maybe worth a view, if you've got nothing better to do at the moment. From Gizmodo's "Top 5" here.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:14 PM on March 3, 2007
John Hodgman Wins.
posted by thecaddy at 5:34 PM on March 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by thecaddy at 5:34 PM on March 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
Every time the laptop of a fellow student dies, it seems to get replaced by a shiny new MacBook. In my demographic, at least, Macs have jumped way out in front. At a seminar of fifteen people, there are likely to be eight of them at the table, with no PCs in sight.
posted by sindark at 5:36 PM on March 3, 2007
posted by sindark at 5:36 PM on March 3, 2007
sindark, a rise in popularity does not equate with a rise in quality or functionality. Marketing is a powerful thig.
posted by tehloki at 5:39 PM on March 3, 2007
posted by tehloki at 5:39 PM on March 3, 2007
Jesus, PC looks like Rush Limbaugh. Nice choice, doodz.
(Of course, that's kind of ironic, because Rush uses a... well you know.)
posted by fungible at 5:51 PM on March 3, 2007
(Of course, that's kind of ironic, because Rush uses a... well you know.)
posted by fungible at 5:51 PM on March 3, 2007
I thought at first it was John Dvorak as PC. I can't help but think that Steve Ballmer sees this and freaks out thinking it is the funniest thing he has ever seen.
posted by tatnasty at 7:45 PM on March 3, 2007
posted by tatnasty at 7:45 PM on March 3, 2007
So, in this case "cool guy" equals "pompous jerk?"
EXACTLY like the other Mac Vs PC ads!
posted by Artw at 8:15 PM on March 3, 2007
EXACTLY like the other Mac Vs PC ads!
posted by Artw at 8:15 PM on March 3, 2007
tehloki:
It's not just marketing. It's that PC laptops, even the expensive ones, suck total balls. Clunky flimsily-flexing plastic, with terrible keyboards, parts that break off or shatter, and exploitative "upgrade" pricing.
They have the nerve to make things like Wi-fi cards a $150 option, to charge $100 extra for a battery that's not missing half it's cells, to charge $150 extra for a screen that's not missing half it's pixels. Since the lenovo transfer, even thinkpads are declining in quality (though at least they don't cost $5k anymore). Yes, it's great that you can buy a shitty PC laptop for $500. It sucks that the $1000-$2000 PC laptop is of the same poor quality, just with higher-spec parts.
They don't want to buy another piece of shit laptop that barely functions.
posted by blasdelf at 8:16 PM on March 3, 2007
It's not just marketing. It's that PC laptops, even the expensive ones, suck total balls. Clunky flimsily-flexing plastic, with terrible keyboards, parts that break off or shatter, and exploitative "upgrade" pricing.
They have the nerve to make things like Wi-fi cards a $150 option, to charge $100 extra for a battery that's not missing half it's cells, to charge $150 extra for a screen that's not missing half it's pixels. Since the lenovo transfer, even thinkpads are declining in quality (though at least they don't cost $5k anymore). Yes, it's great that you can buy a shitty PC laptop for $500. It sucks that the $1000-$2000 PC laptop is of the same poor quality, just with higher-spec parts.
They don't want to buy another piece of shit laptop that barely functions.
posted by blasdelf at 8:16 PM on March 3, 2007
Have all the Apple ads tapped into some sort of mass insecurity held by PC users?
The mad scramble to yell: "But my mom says I'm cool" in these "parody" videos seems a little sad.
posted by aubin at 8:23 PM on March 3, 2007
The mad scramble to yell: "But my mom says I'm cool" in these "parody" videos seems a little sad.
posted by aubin at 8:23 PM on March 3, 2007
They have the nerve to make things like Wi-fi cards a $150 option
Hello, 2002. Nice to hear from you again.
You'll have a very difficult time finding a brand new laptop these days without built-in wifi.
posted by quarter waters and a bag of chips at 8:26 PM on March 3, 2007
The funniest thing about these is their complete embrace of the usual (marketing-propagated) stereotypes about Mac and PC users (respectively).
It's like, "Let's see if all that 'Thinking Different' gets you a nice corporate job, you hippie!"
posted by grobstein at 8:28 PM on March 3, 2007
It's like, "Let's see if all that 'Thinking Different' gets you a nice corporate job, you hippie!"
posted by grobstein at 8:28 PM on March 3, 2007
Mac nerds out in force, I see.
Anytime someone links to a Mac V. PC ad, there's always about thirty people going: "Well PC sucks Macs rule Micro$$$$$oft!"
This just seems like higher vocabulary versions of the same stuff.
posted by Cyclopsis Raptor at 8:35 PM on March 3, 2007
Anytime someone links to a Mac V. PC ad, there's always about thirty people going: "Well PC sucks Macs rule Micro$$$$$oft!"
This just seems like higher vocabulary versions of the same stuff.
posted by Cyclopsis Raptor at 8:35 PM on March 3, 2007
I enjoy Macs AND PCs (*GASP!*), but the Mac/PC ads are rather pointless.
My ideal Mac/PC ad would show the PC guy playing a cool new game, and the Mac guy is playing something like Tetris.
I like Macs, but they don't do what I need a computer to do, which is, essentially, everything. I like to game on my PC, download stuff via bittorrent, browse the web, record music, etc etc etc, and I can do it just fine on my PC, for much less than I would do it for on my Mac (and, of course, games for the Mac suck).
OS X is far prettier than Vista though.
posted by newfers at 8:37 PM on March 3, 2007 [2 favorites]
My ideal Mac/PC ad would show the PC guy playing a cool new game, and the Mac guy is playing something like Tetris.
I like Macs, but they don't do what I need a computer to do, which is, essentially, everything. I like to game on my PC, download stuff via bittorrent, browse the web, record music, etc etc etc, and I can do it just fine on my PC, for much less than I would do it for on my Mac (and, of course, games for the Mac suck).
OS X is far prettier than Vista though.
posted by newfers at 8:37 PM on March 3, 2007 [2 favorites]
You know what delights me? I mean, really gets me inside?
Every Thursday night I look out at the long conference table which lines the center of my classroom, and I see nothing but Apple as far as the eye can see. Total and complete hegemony in aluminum. Or, as the Air Force might say: why aim for air superiority when you can have air supremacy, brother?
For some strange reason, I don't think this stunning configuration arises as a result of the (admittedly lame and unfunny) Mac vs. PC ads.
Bring back Ellen Feiss!
posted by adamgreenfield at 8:54 PM on March 3, 2007
Every Thursday night I look out at the long conference table which lines the center of my classroom, and I see nothing but Apple as far as the eye can see. Total and complete hegemony in aluminum. Or, as the Air Force might say: why aim for air superiority when you can have air supremacy, brother?
For some strange reason, I don't think this stunning configuration arises as a result of the (admittedly lame and unfunny) Mac vs. PC ads.
Bring back Ellen Feiss!
posted by adamgreenfield at 8:54 PM on March 3, 2007
For some strange reason, I don't think this stunning configuration arises as a result of the (admittedly lame and unfunny) Mac vs. PC ads.
Me neither. Intel inside, on the other hand...
posted by juiceCake at 8:56 PM on March 3, 2007
Me neither. Intel inside, on the other hand...
posted by juiceCake at 8:56 PM on March 3, 2007
"Have all the Apple ads tapped into some sort of mass insecurity held by PC users?"
This is sort of disingenous, right? If a corporation splatters ads all over saying how lame you are for your aesthetic choices, would you consider anything beyond an eye-roll weak-willed? They're tapping into fairly primal group dynamics there. Don't get me wrong--my default response to a taunt is not to get into a fit about it--but you can hardly say that anyone who decides to do something in response is just ending up digging deeper into a hole. "Yankees, just take it!"
posted by Firas at 9:35 PM on March 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
This is sort of disingenous, right? If a corporation splatters ads all over saying how lame you are for your aesthetic choices, would you consider anything beyond an eye-roll weak-willed? They're tapping into fairly primal group dynamics there. Don't get me wrong--my default response to a taunt is not to get into a fit about it--but you can hardly say that anyone who decides to do something in response is just ending up digging deeper into a hole. "Yankees, just take it!"
posted by Firas at 9:35 PM on March 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
The money one made me laugh. The others not so much. And the music one just baffled me.
posted by O9scar at 10:05 PM on March 3, 2007
posted by O9scar at 10:05 PM on March 3, 2007
This is a more compelling version, if you ask me.
posted by kid ichorous at 10:10 PM on March 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by kid ichorous at 10:10 PM on March 3, 2007 [1 favorite]
parts that break off or shatter
Gotta love the imagination of Mac fans. Seriously, with the possible exception of a two year old getting ahold of his dad's laptop, this has never happened to anyone, anywhere, ever.
posted by drjimmy11 at 10:34 PM on March 3, 2007
Gotta love the imagination of Mac fans. Seriously, with the possible exception of a two year old getting ahold of his dad's laptop, this has never happened to anyone, anywhere, ever.
posted by drjimmy11 at 10:34 PM on March 3, 2007
parts that break off or shatter
...this has never happened to anyone, anywhere, ever.
Except me. And several friends. I'm not saying that Macs are better than PCs, I've killed both. Several times.
But if you want to talk about bits falling off, PCs lose. to date, I've got 3 Mac laptops and about 8 PC laptops, all of which have died on me, the only ones that have 'lost bits' off of them are the PCs. I'm not saying Macs are more reliable, because I've had more than one die at a bad time, but I can assure you that as far as pieces falling off, PCs will lose this fight.
posted by quin at 11:04 PM on March 3, 2007
...this has never happened to anyone, anywhere, ever.
Except me. And several friends. I'm not saying that Macs are better than PCs, I've killed both. Several times.
But if you want to talk about bits falling off, PCs lose. to date, I've got 3 Mac laptops and about 8 PC laptops, all of which have died on me, the only ones that have 'lost bits' off of them are the PCs. I'm not saying Macs are more reliable, because I've had more than one die at a bad time, but I can assure you that as far as pieces falling off, PCs will lose this fight.
posted by quin at 11:04 PM on March 3, 2007
the only ones that have 'lost bits' off of them are the PCs. I'm not saying Macs are more reliable, because I've had more than one die at a bad time, but I can assure you that as far as pieces falling off, PCs will lose this fight.
Norton Antivirus 2008 protects against leprosy.
posted by kid ichorous at 11:17 PM on March 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
Norton Antivirus 2008 protects against leprosy.
posted by kid ichorous at 11:17 PM on March 3, 2007 [3 favorites]
As a long-time Mac user, the current Mac ads suck. I would much rather be the nerdy PC guy from the Daily Show than whoever the hell that hipster asshole is.
Be that as it may, anyone who spoofs that bullshit out of brand loyalty is infinitely lamer. It doesn't help that the PC in this "campaign" is a dick. Also, the music one just didn't make a lick of sense.
posted by brundlefly at 11:31 PM on March 3, 2007
Be that as it may, anyone who spoofs that bullshit out of brand loyalty is infinitely lamer. It doesn't help that the PC in this "campaign" is a dick. Also, the music one just didn't make a lick of sense.
posted by brundlefly at 11:31 PM on March 3, 2007
but I can assure you that as far as pieces falling off, PCs will lose this fight.
Clearly you're buying the wrong PC laptops.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 11:35 PM on March 3, 2007
Clearly you're buying the wrong PC laptops.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 11:35 PM on March 3, 2007
A few examples of flimsy PC laptop crap:
posted by blasdelf at 11:55 PM on March 3, 2007
- Optical Drives with Trays. I've had to replace them on two of my laptops, and I've helped a number of friends replace theirs when they die. Hilariously, there is no standard for the bezels, so you often have to modify either the new one or the old one to fit, and if you have to use the new one, it's probably the wrong color. The last mac laptop that came with a tray drive was the white iBook G3 like 6 years ago.
- Motherfucking hinges, and the plastic parts that adjoin them. I've had the parts that stick up covering the hinges just shatter completely. The hinges can become completely loose, or die any number of weird deaths. The last mac laptop with these kind of issues was the Titanium G4, last sold 5 years ago.
posted by blasdelf at 11:55 PM on March 3, 2007
Anecdotal evidence is pretty much worthless.
I had a Compaq laptop for five years and despite Compaq being one of the worst companies when it comes to laptops I've never had pieces break off or drives fail (I did go through a motherboard because of a crappy connection for the power cord though).
Something that people seem to forget is the term "PC" covers a wiiiiide range of manufacturers/models, some good, some terrible. Just because Macs perform better than some of these PCs does not automatically make its operating system better.
Each OS has its advantages and disadvantages, anyone who sticks to a straight party line runs the very real risk of being mistaken for a 'fanboy' and rightly so.
Also, blasdef...what the hell are you talking about? $150 dollars for a wifi card (pretty much standard issue on most PC laptops now), $100 for a battery that's not missing half its cells (again...huh?) and $150 for a screen that doesn't have half its pixels dead?
If you've had this experience, I suggest you stop buying your laptops from street vendors on Canal St. in NYC.
posted by crashlanding at 12:58 AM on March 4, 2007
I had a Compaq laptop for five years and despite Compaq being one of the worst companies when it comes to laptops I've never had pieces break off or drives fail (I did go through a motherboard because of a crappy connection for the power cord though).
Something that people seem to forget is the term "PC" covers a wiiiiide range of manufacturers/models, some good, some terrible. Just because Macs perform better than some of these PCs does not automatically make its operating system better.
Each OS has its advantages and disadvantages, anyone who sticks to a straight party line runs the very real risk of being mistaken for a 'fanboy' and rightly so.
Also, blasdef...what the hell are you talking about? $150 dollars for a wifi card (pretty much standard issue on most PC laptops now), $100 for a battery that's not missing half its cells (again...huh?) and $150 for a screen that doesn't have half its pixels dead?
If you've had this experience, I suggest you stop buying your laptops from street vendors on Canal St. in NYC.
posted by crashlanding at 12:58 AM on March 4, 2007
WHAT. THE. FUCK. PEOPLE?
PC = PERSONAL COMPUTER. "The term was popularized by Apple with the Apple II in the late-1970s and early-1980s..."
So Macs ARE PCs. What you're really arguing about is the operating system, and that's called Windows. Call a spade a spade; you're not bound by the copyright restrictions that an Apple ad is.
And it's "Think differently" dammit.
posted by Eideteker at 1:00 AM on March 4, 2007 [2 favorites]
PC = PERSONAL COMPUTER. "The term was popularized by Apple with the Apple II in the late-1970s and early-1980s..."
So Macs ARE PCs. What you're really arguing about is the operating system, and that's called Windows. Call a spade a spade; you're not bound by the copyright restrictions that an Apple ad is.
And it's "Think differently" dammit.
posted by Eideteker at 1:00 AM on March 4, 2007 [2 favorites]
Each OS has its advantages and disadvantages, anyone who sticks to a straight party line runs the very real risk of being mistaken for a 'fanboy' and rightly so.
Remind me, aside from the fairly free availability of cracked security warez which are essential if my PC isn't to be controlled by Russian mobsters using it for nefarious enterprises, what are the advantages of using a Microsoft OS again?
(And I've got three computers at the moment -- two PC's and a Mac, so I'm hardly sticking to a straight party line here)
posted by PeterMcDermott at 2:28 AM on March 4, 2007
Remind me, aside from the fairly free availability of cracked security warez which are essential if my PC isn't to be controlled by Russian mobsters using it for nefarious enterprises, what are the advantages of using a Microsoft OS again?
(And I've got three computers at the moment -- two PC's and a Mac, so I'm hardly sticking to a straight party line here)
posted by PeterMcDermott at 2:28 AM on March 4, 2007
Yes, Macs are PCs, just like Hackers are people who like to tinker with computers (unlike crackers). But in common usage, PC = 80x86 computer system, which meant Microsoft (/IBM/Linux/)-based operating system computer (until very recently, of course).
This is because in the Olden Days™, the term PC was never really seen without the letters IBM in front of it, or later during the "clone wars," the words IBM Compatible, a moniker clone systems used to distinguish themselves from the plethora of other computer systems on the market that were not (Commodore, Amiga, Tandy, etc).
IBM stopped being the important part of the equation when they got out of the hardware business, but the shorthand stuck. Nowadays, PC means any of the bastard offspring of the original IBM PC that has devolved into a market free-for-all, while Apple is still and will always be Apple. Apple software, Apple hardware. Yes, an Apple is a PC. But above all, an Apple is an Apple. You can thank Jobs for that.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 2:52 AM on March 4, 2007
This is because in the Olden Days™, the term PC was never really seen without the letters IBM in front of it, or later during the "clone wars," the words IBM Compatible, a moniker clone systems used to distinguish themselves from the plethora of other computer systems on the market that were not (Commodore, Amiga, Tandy, etc).
IBM stopped being the important part of the equation when they got out of the hardware business, but the shorthand stuck. Nowadays, PC means any of the bastard offspring of the original IBM PC that has devolved into a market free-for-all, while Apple is still and will always be Apple. Apple software, Apple hardware. Yes, an Apple is a PC. But above all, an Apple is an Apple. You can thank Jobs for that.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 2:52 AM on March 4, 2007
It's still common for cheapo windows laptops to come with a battery that's got half the cells of the one that the manufacturer tries to "upsell" you to. It's good that it's becoming less common for 802.11 to be an option on cheap laptops, but I still constantly see people with windows laptops that lack them (I maintain public-access computer labs).
I know several people that didn't get their laptop with 802.11 built in because the manufacturer wanted to gouge them on it by making it a $125 option. Instead they commonly use USB wi-fi dongles, which make them look like idiots. I've gotten several people $20 mini-PCI 802.11 cards, and thankfully most manufacturers don't go to the trouble of actually removing the antenna cabling, so it's mostly painless.
posted by blasdelf at 3:12 AM on March 4, 2007
I know several people that didn't get their laptop with 802.11 built in because the manufacturer wanted to gouge them on it by making it a $125 option. Instead they commonly use USB wi-fi dongles, which make them look like idiots. I've gotten several people $20 mini-PCI 802.11 cards, and thankfully most manufacturers don't go to the trouble of actually removing the antenna cabling, so it's mostly painless.
posted by blasdelf at 3:12 AM on March 4, 2007
Will people stop whining that Macs just aren't for them because they can't play games? There's a non-negligible number of pretty decent games native for Mac that are just a little bit better than Tetris (e.g. World of Warcraft, Call of Duty 2, see here). And for the rest there is Bootcamp (although you have to buy Windows, which I suppose is a major problem for you cheap fuckers). A solid, well-designed Unix based OS and fucking sweet beautiful hardware is just far nicer than the awful semi-broken crap that is every Windows box.
posted by snoktruix at 3:36 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by snoktruix at 3:36 AM on March 4, 2007
Will people stop whining that Macs just aren't for them because they can't play games?
For a lot of people, "can play games" includes the option to upgrade video card, memory, CPU, sound card, and so on, when a game they want to play is too demanding for their system. Since Macintoshes are largely closed, choosing an open system -- where you can perform a significant upgrade to the core power of the system without having to buy a new screen, which is effectively the case with, say, an iMac -- makes sense.
"I want a computer that is fully upgradeable" is not a whine, it is a purchasing decision.
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 3:54 AM on March 4, 2007
For a lot of people, "can play games" includes the option to upgrade video card, memory, CPU, sound card, and so on, when a game they want to play is too demanding for their system. Since Macintoshes are largely closed, choosing an open system -- where you can perform a significant upgrade to the core power of the system without having to buy a new screen, which is effectively the case with, say, an iMac -- makes sense.
"I want a computer that is fully upgradeable" is not a whine, it is a purchasing decision.
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 3:54 AM on March 4, 2007
You can certainly upgrade a Mac Pro (albeit the CPU) which a proper "gamer" would probably need.
posted by snoktruix at 3:59 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by snoktruix at 3:59 AM on March 4, 2007
although you have to buy Windows, which I suppose is a major problem for you cheap fuckers
My, my. Touch a nerve?
posted by Firas at 3:59 AM on March 4, 2007
My, my. Touch a nerve?
posted by Firas at 3:59 AM on March 4, 2007
I've worked in telecoms for 30 years and currently work in an office with about 100 other people. Many different companies are represented in the one project office and there's not one mac thing in the place. In fact I can't remeber the last time I saw a mac in the flesh.
I've used PC laptops for as long as they've been around and never had anything fall off any of them.
I can't really comment on macs 'cause I've never known anyone who has one. They're only on TV aren't they?
posted by Merlin at 4:01 AM on March 4, 2007
I've used PC laptops for as long as they've been around and never had anything fall off any of them.
I can't really comment on macs 'cause I've never known anyone who has one. They're only on TV aren't they?
posted by Merlin at 4:01 AM on March 4, 2007
Someone recommends a hand-built BeOS laptop in 3, 2,...
posted by Happy Dave at 5:40 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by Happy Dave at 5:40 AM on March 4, 2007
You can certainly upgrade a Mac Pro (albeit the CPU) which a proper "gamer" would probably need.
Yes, but the Mac Pro costs eleventy squillion pounds.
I'd probably own a Macintosh if you didn't have to pay eleventy squillion pounds to get one that was upgradeable.
In all seriousness: £1700? Just to play games? That's almost as much as a PS3, and only five people in the world can afford that.
posted by terpsichoria at 6:29 AM on March 4, 2007
Yes, but the Mac Pro costs eleventy squillion pounds.
I'd probably own a Macintosh if you didn't have to pay eleventy squillion pounds to get one that was upgradeable.
In all seriousness: £1700? Just to play games? That's almost as much as a PS3, and only five people in the world can afford that.
posted by terpsichoria at 6:29 AM on March 4, 2007
Whoops, that was me. Silly browser cookies.
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 6:30 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 6:30 AM on March 4, 2007
Instead they commonly use USB wi-fi dongles, which make them look like idiots.
I find this statement telling for some reason.
posted by Cyrano at 6:39 AM on March 4, 2007
I find this statement telling for some reason.
posted by Cyrano at 6:39 AM on March 4, 2007
Anyone who doesn't run BeOS VMS AmigaOS ITS on their own hand-crafted lightsaber laptop is clearly just wrong about everything.
And these are funnier than Apple's ads. Which are inadvertently funny, in that John Hodgman is much cooler than whoever that other guy is.
posted by reventlov at 6:39 AM on March 4, 2007
And these are funnier than Apple's ads. Which are inadvertently funny, in that John Hodgman is much cooler than whoever that other guy is.
posted by reventlov at 6:39 AM on March 4, 2007
It's really more about software, I think, and basic computer skills (i.e., literacy), not what kind of computer you like. Can you use a spreadsheet? Do you know how to type for god's sake? Can you use a word processor? Do you know how to store your files so that you can actually find them later? So many people I run into don't have a clue, yet they're concerned about the Mac vs. PC argument. It doesn't matter what computer you use; all that matters is that you actually know how to do something with it besides surfing the internet. (And, also, if you work in an office, you'd better know how to use the control panel. Hehehe.)
posted by meh at 7:04 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by meh at 7:04 AM on March 4, 2007
LOLMACIANS
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 7:09 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 7:09 AM on March 4, 2007
And Linux would be Sarah Silverman, right?
posted by DenOfSizer at 7:34 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by DenOfSizer at 7:34 AM on March 4, 2007
You can certainly upgrade a Mac Pro (albeit the CPU) which a proper "gamer" would probably need.
I can't get my GeForce 8800 for the Mac that has been in my PC for 3 months now. And I rarely play games, however, it helpful in other ways. The games I do play, are not available for the Mac. Total cost of the new system, $1400 CDN ($500 to the video card.) That's an advantage to me. But really, to each their own. I imagine this card will be available soon, though a mid range Mac with a similar footprint as the Mac Pro would be nice to put it into.
That said, it's all down to what you like and what you don't. I use Macs on freelance jobs and it's a great OS, better to me, in many ways, to Windows, but not worth the price of admission, personally, and I'm uncomfortable being tied to one vendor. It's the person that counts, and often, an application preference (ie. Quark or InDesign?) Most of the major apps are cross platform, thankfully.
I work with people using Macs, Solaris, Linux, Free BSD, and Windows. None of us cares what each other uses and I'm surprised that computers have anything to do with personal identity frankly. The implication that your computer is tied to your creativity, personality, etc. is bizarre. We're concerned about the results.
posted by juiceCake at 7:57 AM on March 4, 2007
I can't get my GeForce 8800 for the Mac that has been in my PC for 3 months now. And I rarely play games, however, it helpful in other ways. The games I do play, are not available for the Mac. Total cost of the new system, $1400 CDN ($500 to the video card.) That's an advantage to me. But really, to each their own. I imagine this card will be available soon, though a mid range Mac with a similar footprint as the Mac Pro would be nice to put it into.
That said, it's all down to what you like and what you don't. I use Macs on freelance jobs and it's a great OS, better to me, in many ways, to Windows, but not worth the price of admission, personally, and I'm uncomfortable being tied to one vendor. It's the person that counts, and often, an application preference (ie. Quark or InDesign?) Most of the major apps are cross platform, thankfully.
I work with people using Macs, Solaris, Linux, Free BSD, and Windows. None of us cares what each other uses and I'm surprised that computers have anything to do with personal identity frankly. The implication that your computer is tied to your creativity, personality, etc. is bizarre. We're concerned about the results.
posted by juiceCake at 7:57 AM on March 4, 2007
Will people stop whining that Macs Linux systems just aren't for them because they can't play games? There's a non-negligible number of pretty decent games native for Mac Linux systems that are just a little bit better than Tetris. And for the rest there is Bootcamp Wine (although you have to buy Windows, which I suppose is a major problem for you cheap fuckers) and you don't even have to buy Windows. A solid, well-designed Unix based OS and fucking sweet beautiful hardware is just far nicer than the awful semi-broken crap that is every Windows box.
There, fixed that for you.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 8:02 AM on March 4, 2007
There, fixed that for you.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 8:02 AM on March 4, 2007
Oh, and you can actually upgrade your own Linux box with commodity hardware. Silly me forgot that little detail.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 8:03 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 8:03 AM on March 4, 2007
I'd like to see an ad in which that cute blonde takes the money from PC , seduces MAC into making a video of her, brings the video to a producer who happens to be a Tantric Sex Master , ex convict for political "crimes" with long fluent air that she fucks lustfully after riding away on a white horse in the night.
Then she makes a million, hires PC, MAC and the rebel as horse attendant and flies on her jet away for rinse-repeat, this time with billionaries.
At the end she smiles at the camera and just says " ...Guys ! "
posted by elpapacito at 8:04 AM on March 4, 2007
Then she makes a million, hires PC, MAC and the rebel as horse attendant and flies on her jet away for rinse-repeat, this time with billionaries.
At the end she smiles at the camera and just says " ...Guys ! "
posted by elpapacito at 8:04 AM on March 4, 2007
once again the Metafilter community takes itself far too seriously...can the discussion in this thread be any more pedantic?
The spoofs are funny in the way that they take the extreme stereotype of Mac users versus PC users (getting high versus corporate guy).
That said, there is a lot of anectodal evidence to show that Apple is succeeding in broadening the Macs traditionally limited appeal and that this is translating into higher sales. In my business, I've never encountered so much interest in switching to Macs as I have see in the last six months.
Whether or not that translates into actual sales is a different story.
but back on topic, these spoofs are probably better than most of the people in this discussion could make.
posted by tgrundke at 8:04 AM on March 4, 2007
The spoofs are funny in the way that they take the extreme stereotype of Mac users versus PC users (getting high versus corporate guy).
That said, there is a lot of anectodal evidence to show that Apple is succeeding in broadening the Macs traditionally limited appeal and that this is translating into higher sales. In my business, I've never encountered so much interest in switching to Macs as I have see in the last six months.
Whether or not that translates into actual sales is a different story.
but back on topic, these spoofs are probably better than most of the people in this discussion could make.
posted by tgrundke at 8:04 AM on March 4, 2007
first 2 are funny, by the third, the joke wears thin.
there should be a law, anyone who uses the phrase "mac vs pc" is shot on sight.
posted by fisherKing at 8:47 AM on March 4, 2007
there should be a law, anyone who uses the phrase "mac vs pc" is shot on sight.
posted by fisherKing at 8:47 AM on March 4, 2007
You know who else preferred PCs over Macs? Hitler, that's who.
And Genghis Khan. And I heard a rumor that Osama is a l33t hacker.
The Mac vs PC debate is almost as sensible as the Ford vs Chevy debate.
posted by fenriq at 9:17 AM on March 4, 2007
And Genghis Khan. And I heard a rumor that Osama is a l33t hacker.
The Mac vs PC debate is almost as sensible as the Ford vs Chevy debate.
posted by fenriq at 9:17 AM on March 4, 2007
What would be funny is to do a version in which the two weedy jerks are bitching at each other, and then a huge ugly guy who's about six foot nine and covered with tattoos comes in and says "I'm linux, I'm not cute and I don't play a lot of games but I can kick both of your asses" and proceeds to do so.
posted by George_Spiggott at 9:51 AM on March 4, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by George_Spiggott at 9:51 AM on March 4, 2007 [1 favorite]
Surely, *this* is the comment that will settle the debate once and for all in favor of my preferred operating system.
posted by Kwine at 9:54 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by Kwine at 9:54 AM on March 4, 2007
Why can't everyone just use what works for them and shut the fuck up about it?
posted by Cyrano at 9:56 AM on March 4, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Cyrano at 9:56 AM on March 4, 2007 [1 favorite]
Your favorite soulless multinational corporation sucks.
posted by dirigibleman at 11:11 AM on March 4, 2007
posted by dirigibleman at 11:11 AM on March 4, 2007
"...in common usage, PC = 80x86 computer system, which meant Microsoft (/IBM/Linux/)-based operating system computer (until very recently, of course).
This is because in the Olden Days™, the term PC was never really seen without the letters IBM in front of it... Yes, an Apple is a PC. But above all, an Apple is an Apple. You can thank Jobs for that."
This sort of soft thinking is killing America.
posted by Eideteker at 12:47 PM on March 4, 2007
This is because in the Olden Days™, the term PC was never really seen without the letters IBM in front of it... Yes, an Apple is a PC. But above all, an Apple is an Apple. You can thank Jobs for that."
This sort of soft thinking is killing America.
posted by Eideteker at 12:47 PM on March 4, 2007
I think what the sharing thing is referring to is that you can't transfer songs from an ipod to a PC (or a Mac, for that matter). Not that it's particularly funny.
posted by whir at 12:48 PM on March 4, 2007
posted by whir at 12:48 PM on March 4, 2007
blasdelf: even thinkpads are declining in quality (though at least they don't cost $5k anymore)
Although they don't cost $5k anymore, I haven't seen a real decline in quality. (As I type on my couple of month old t60p)
It's as solid as my T30 or my 560X.
Some brands are rather cheaply built, though.
posted by wierdo at 1:03 PM on March 4, 2007
Although they don't cost $5k anymore, I haven't seen a real decline in quality. (As I type on my couple of month old t60p)
It's as solid as my T30 or my 560X.
Some brands are rather cheaply built, though.
posted by wierdo at 1:03 PM on March 4, 2007
(Quicktime links)
Apple technology. Even Apple-haters prefer it.
posted by adamrice at 4:16 PM on March 4, 2007
Apple technology. Even Apple-haters prefer it.
posted by adamrice at 4:16 PM on March 4, 2007
Apple makes great hardware, especially laptops. As someone already pointed out, PC laptops generally suck. (Although I'd love to have a Toughbook.)
I can't imagine shelling out for a Mac desktop, since I could easily build a PC for commodity prices...
posted by mazatec at 7:46 PM on March 4, 2007
I can't imagine shelling out for a Mac desktop, since I could easily build a PC for commodity prices...
posted by mazatec at 7:46 PM on March 4, 2007
"It's that PC laptops, even the expensive ones, suck total balls. Clunky flimsily-flexing plastic, with terrible keyboards, parts that break off or shatter, and exploitative "upgrade" pricing."
My soft-touch rubberized keyboard, carbon fiber body and slot-loading dual-layer +/- DVD-RAM proves your blanket statement wrong. It doesn't flex at all. It isn't plastic. Nothing has fallen off of it. It doesn't have a CD tray. Everything I need (including IR, Bluetooth and a multi-function memory card reader) is built in. Were I to upgrade to the newest model, it would even come with a VoIP phone that fits into the PCMCIA slot. Oh: and a 180 degree rotating web cam. Clearly a system that "sucks total balls". I bought it specifically because I wanted a computer that would just plain suck - that was indeed the need that drove my purchase decision, how insightful of you to notice.
See, the problem with making a blanket statement regarding Windows computers is that there are about 90 bazillion manufacturers - some turn out cheap crap, others make solid, sturdy systems. How about you do more than scoff at the four models carried by Best Buy before you decide to condemn an entire industry?
Apple makes about 3 styles of anything (laptop, desktop, etc). They all look fairly identical. They make blanket statements easier. Statements like "the amount of whining Mac fans do about how much cooler and better in every possible way their own computers are makes me not want to buy a Mac, for fear of being mistaken as one of them."
posted by caution live frogs at 9:19 PM on March 4, 2007
My soft-touch rubberized keyboard, carbon fiber body and slot-loading dual-layer +/- DVD-RAM proves your blanket statement wrong. It doesn't flex at all. It isn't plastic. Nothing has fallen off of it. It doesn't have a CD tray. Everything I need (including IR, Bluetooth and a multi-function memory card reader) is built in. Were I to upgrade to the newest model, it would even come with a VoIP phone that fits into the PCMCIA slot. Oh: and a 180 degree rotating web cam. Clearly a system that "sucks total balls". I bought it specifically because I wanted a computer that would just plain suck - that was indeed the need that drove my purchase decision, how insightful of you to notice.
See, the problem with making a blanket statement regarding Windows computers is that there are about 90 bazillion manufacturers - some turn out cheap crap, others make solid, sturdy systems. How about you do more than scoff at the four models carried by Best Buy before you decide to condemn an entire industry?
Apple makes about 3 styles of anything (laptop, desktop, etc). They all look fairly identical. They make blanket statements easier. Statements like "the amount of whining Mac fans do about how much cooler and better in every possible way their own computers are makes me not want to buy a Mac, for fear of being mistaken as one of them."
posted by caution live frogs at 9:19 PM on March 4, 2007
PC laptops, even the expensive ones, suck total balls
... except for the ones that don't. I've dropped mine twice (accidentally) from a height of three feet or more, without any damage or ill effects. Some of that might have to do with its solid-state hard drive; I don't think that's an available option from Apple. Oh well.
Remind me, aside from the fairly free availability of cracked security warez which are essential if my PC isn't to be controlled by Russian mobsters using it for nefarious enterprises, what are the advantages of using a Microsoft OS again?
You could simply choose not to use an admin account. It's not that hard. As for the advantages, oh, I don't know, compatibility with your existing applications? The ability to buy cheaper hardware, or hardware that Apple doesn't have?
posted by me & my monkey at 9:51 PM on March 4, 2007
... except for the ones that don't. I've dropped mine twice (accidentally) from a height of three feet or more, without any damage or ill effects. Some of that might have to do with its solid-state hard drive; I don't think that's an available option from Apple. Oh well.
Remind me, aside from the fairly free availability of cracked security warez which are essential if my PC isn't to be controlled by Russian mobsters using it for nefarious enterprises, what are the advantages of using a Microsoft OS again?
You could simply choose not to use an admin account. It's not that hard. As for the advantages, oh, I don't know, compatibility with your existing applications? The ability to buy cheaper hardware, or hardware that Apple doesn't have?
posted by me & my monkey at 9:51 PM on March 4, 2007
I'd like to make an ad where the Mac and PC sit with their backs turned to one another, each busy doing something. So that each side is appeased, let the Mac guy be editing a movie and have the PC guy making a PivotTable.
The PC guy will turn to the Mac and tell him "Hey, I sent you the new Excel sheet with our budget calculations, take a look, OK?" And the Mac does and he comments "Hey, great job on these calculations, PC." "Thanks!"
Then the Mac says "Hey, check out this YouTube video..." as he turns and IMs the link to the PC. The PC looks at it and laughs out loud, finding the content very humorous.
Then the commercial ends.
Because, you know, arguments about computer platform choice are lame and pointless.
posted by owenkun at 5:59 AM on March 5, 2007 [1 favorite]
The PC guy will turn to the Mac and tell him "Hey, I sent you the new Excel sheet with our budget calculations, take a look, OK?" And the Mac does and he comments "Hey, great job on these calculations, PC." "Thanks!"
Then the Mac says "Hey, check out this YouTube video..." as he turns and IMs the link to the PC. The PC looks at it and laughs out loud, finding the content very humorous.
Then the commercial ends.
Because, you know, arguments about computer platform choice are lame and pointless.
posted by owenkun at 5:59 AM on March 5, 2007 [1 favorite]
I found out that after I switched to a homebrewed version of the Commodore 64 operating system that my penis grew three inches.
posted by drezdn at 7:32 AM on March 5, 2007
posted by drezdn at 7:32 AM on March 5, 2007
Hm..... my Dell was just fine, but I got an iBook. Then, it broke. And, broke. And broke, and broke and broke, and then I quit using it and got another Dell.
My wife uses the iBook, and it is just fine.
I have to wonder if Macs are allergic to me....
posted by dwivian at 1:02 PM on March 5, 2007
My wife uses the iBook, and it is just fine.
I have to wonder if Macs are allergic to me....
posted by dwivian at 1:02 PM on March 5, 2007
sindark, a rise in popularity does not equate with a rise in quality or functionality. Marketing is a powerful thig.
posted by tehloki
This is such an ignorant and condescending statement I don't know where to start. Then I see 'posted by tehloki' and it all makes sense. Do you start trembling every time you see a mac thread where you can spread the hate?
posted by justgary at 10:15 PM on March 28, 2007
posted by tehloki
This is such an ignorant and condescending statement I don't know where to start. Then I see 'posted by tehloki' and it all makes sense. Do you start trembling every time you see a mac thread where you can spread the hate?
posted by justgary at 10:15 PM on March 28, 2007
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Is that irony, or something else entirely?
posted by wierdo at 4:38 PM on March 3, 2007 [4 favorites]