It's a thin line between love and hate
March 6, 2007 2:56 PM   Subscribe

Alpha Cat vs. New Puppy - Day 1. Now, if only more relationships with such rocky starts had such happy endings. [YouTube - cute animals]
posted by krix (48 comments total) 2 users marked this as a favorite

 
What the hell? Videos of somebody's pets?!
posted by mr_roboto at 3:04 PM on March 6, 2007


west of the beb.
posted by quarter waters and a bag of chips at 3:06 PM on March 6, 2007


My mind is blown that this is one the front page.
posted by absalom at 3:47 PM on March 6, 2007


Awwwww. Look at the widdle puppy!

Cats suck though.
posted by jokeefe at 4:00 PM on March 6, 2007


More important, is that fourth-grader wearing a diaper?
posted by gottabefunky at 4:07 PM on March 6, 2007


Puuuupppppppiiiiiiieeeeeeeeesssssss.
Haven't watched the link. I just like saying that.
posted by miss lynnster at 4:09 PM on March 6, 2007


If some cat slapped my puppy like that, I would get out my 9 and turn the cat's head into a canoe.

~*DOGS 4 lYfE*~
posted by dios at 4:34 PM on March 6, 2007 [1 favorite]


Maybe the man was right.

"What is the Internet, if not the world's most efficient way to say something bad about someone -- and post pictures of cats? "

--John Scalzi
posted by kayjay at 4:44 PM on March 6, 2007


Must...keep...standards...high.......

Ah, fuck it. I can't stop smiling; this is adorable.
posted by mediareport at 4:48 PM on March 6, 2007


Awwwww. Look at the widdle cat!

Puppies suck though.
posted by pompomtom at 4:49 PM on March 6, 2007


It looked like the dog has grown to love the cat but the cat still hates the dog. That cat was slapping that dog's head all over the place. And you could totally see the cat hissing.

Clearly that dog has yet to learn that cats rule while dogs, quite literally, drool.

~~CAT S1D3 BA113RS~~
posted by aburd at 4:49 PM on March 6, 2007


Awwwwwwwwww!
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 4:53 PM on March 6, 2007


Er wait. This isn't MetaChat.

Oh shit! I've blown my demanding, seasoned internet veteran cover! Must compensate!

Why the hell is this on the blue? What were you thinking? Did you think I'd actually ENJOY this?

This is NOT the best of the web.

I am not impressed.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 4:54 PM on March 6, 2007


Meh. I have cats, I have dogs. This is what they do. I can guarantee that the puppy wasn't hurt. It was scared because it can't figure out what it did that made the other smaller white dog so angry.

The only thing that will come of this is that the cat will rule the house, the dog will defer to it, lest it get another wack on the nose, (I once visited a house with four or five pure-bred Doberman Pincers who lived in abject fear of one smallish grey cat. I actually witnessed the cat stare a dog out of it's spot on the sofa. This hundred or so pound dog actually slunk away from an animal that weighed less then it's head. Amazing.)

The dog in time may learn it's one and only secret weapon. The bark. It won't stop the power of the cat, but it may get it to stop bossing the dog around for a couple of minutes.
posted by quin at 5:00 PM on March 6, 2007


It looked like the dog has grown to love the cat but the cat still hates the dog.

Yes. Cats are calculating killers and haters. They merely feign love to curry favor and comfort. Secretly they even hate you.

While dogs are guileless lovers and givers who can surmount any natural prejudice and will risk their own lives to help their pack.

That poor fool puppy will only know love in his heart. While that cat will do nothing but scheme for the day it will taste sweet puppy blood.
posted by tkchrist at 5:00 PM on March 6, 2007 [4 favorites]


Just a few posts back someone was complaining about all YouTube videos having shitty music, then this 400lb gorilla comes and proves them wrong.

For the record I enjoyed this tremendously. But I'm also getting a tattoo of puppies and kittens sleeping together to remind me that, unlike drugs and unlike sex, some things in this acrid, ugly, world make me genuinely happy - so perhaps I'm biased.
posted by nathancaswell at 5:06 PM on March 6, 2007


Thats funny, nathancaswell, 'cause I'm getting a tattoo of blow and hookers to remind me that, unlike dogs and cats, some things make ME genuinely happy! Nice!
posted by Justinian at 5:07 PM on March 6, 2007


Tou-fucking-che
posted by nathancaswell at 5:09 PM on March 6, 2007


Catfight!
posted by CKmtl at 5:21 PM on March 6, 2007


more cats on youtube, if you like
posted by growabrain at 5:30 PM on March 6, 2007


horny dog.
posted by nathancaswell at 5:37 PM on March 6, 2007


Another similarly impressed cat dealing with a puppy.
posted by jikel_morten at 5:42 PM on March 6, 2007


tkchrist, apparently they feign love for other reasons too. Even though it was cute and I watched it, I don't think this is particularly front page worthy, but I cant really point fingers as my only post was a one-link youtube.
posted by BrotherCaine at 5:45 PM on March 6, 2007


horny dog.

Huh. I didn't even know dog's could do that.
posted by CKmtl at 5:49 PM on March 6, 2007


Catfight?
posted by BrotherCaine at 5:50 PM on March 6, 2007


dog's dogs.
posted by CKmtl at 5:51 PM on March 6, 2007


Umm, what's with the kid walking over and trying to KICK the cat? Someone better show him the Alpha Adult vs. Obnoxious Child video.
posted by frogan at 6:00 PM on March 6, 2007 [1 favorite]


WTF has happend to MeFi? I can remember a time when a post like this would have gone up in flames so fast the poster would have to relocate in Anarctica. This is NOT cute, it's NOT news, it's NOT entertaining and it's NOT informative.

I can't for the life of me figure out what happened to the old guard around here that I so fervently revered for their eloquent vitriol, so appropriately directed at this type of pansy-ass swill.
posted by PuppyCat at 6:04 PM on March 6, 2007 [3 favorites]


Hey, this made my otherwise shitty day end with some laughs, so I'll take it.
posted by malaprohibita at 6:10 PM on March 6, 2007


"I can't for the life of me figure out what happened to the old guard around here that I so fervently revered for their eloquent vitriol, so appropriately directed at this type of pansy-ass swill."
signed PuppyCat..

wow.. registering a name and waiting two years to find the right post to use it on! Just wow!
posted by HuronBob at 6:12 PM on March 6, 2007


A very important graph from XKCD on this very subject. (for the puppy inclined, s/cat/dog).
posted by mrzarquon at 6:50 PM on March 6, 2007


[NOT PANSY-ASS SWILL]
posted by oneirodynia at 6:51 PM on March 6, 2007


so appropriately directed at this type of pansy-ass swill.

Oh please. Have you seen the Hasselhoff Recursion post? Be sure to note the user.

Bottom line: there's always been a place for silly shallow posts at MeFi.
posted by mediareport at 6:55 PM on March 6, 2007


This is a preposterous FPP. I am not amused.
posted by lostburner at 7:18 PM on March 6, 2007


PuppyCat, please see the thread on Beaudrillard. There you will find your dead old guard.
posted by gorgor_balabala at 7:19 PM on March 6, 2007


Hey, MetaFilter's first front page post was about taking silly pics of cats on a scanner, Cat-Scans.

And this fpp gave me a lovely warm-fuzzy rush, thanks. Nice to see a relationship work out well. :)
posted by nickyskye at 7:32 PM on March 6, 2007


AMG (awwwwwwwwwwwww my gawd).

[spoilers]



















And pupster even brought the catmeister a green fluffy thing as a peace offer!

I love the playfighting in the second part. Too bad about the human interference though, even if it was understandable. The slomo was just gratuitous, however.

[/spoilers end here]


Excellent post, krix.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 7:46 PM on March 6, 2007


This is NOT cute, it's NOT news, it's NOT entertaining and it's NOT informative.
by PuppyCat

Flagged as meta-eponysterical. Brilliant.

Whatever happened to that anyway, scarabic?
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 7:51 PM on March 6, 2007


oneirodynia, the Chicken Cops totally made my day.
And I grumbled about the lameness of kitty-puppy-youtube-postage, but I still watched it and I still smiled. Suck it, haters.
posted by Cat Pie Hurts at 8:07 PM on March 6, 2007


The only thing that will come of this is that the cat will rule the house, the dog will defer to it, lest it get another wack on the nose

Heh, that could be describing Chez Snark, quin. I'm bipetual, and the kitty was a DC street feral who was largely raised by my previous dog, a malamute. So little six pound kitty is used to playing and snuggling with a hundred pounds of snowdog.

Years pass, the mal dies, far too young; kitty spends weeks sitting in the front room watching the door for him to come back. I finally get a new dog -- a sixty-pound elkhound. We make introductions, elkie takes a curious sniff at the funny-looking "little dog", cat thwaps him on the nose, and the hierarchy is set for life. (Even now, more than five years later, the cat can come up and try to initiate play and the moosedog will nervously retreat: he is just not going to risk a repeat performance.)

A few months later, I bring home another dog -- a 40-pound pit bull. She's sweet as pie, but dumb as a sack of hammers. So learning her place in the pack took quite a bit longer: sniff, nose-thwap, yelp, retreat, repeat. Puppy EVENTUALLY learns that the funny-looking little dog is calling the shots; kitty eventually accepts that the dog has been suitably trained, and now deigns to snuggle and play with her new subject. Puppy routinely brings peace offerings of her favorite dog toys, many of which are larger than the cat...although occasionally, when the cat is playing one of her favorite games of "sock the pibble on the head", there's still a faintly nervous "we're friends now, right? this is fun, right? you're not going to hurt me, are you?" look on her face.

(And as far as drooling goes...the only one of the lot who does it regularly is the tiny feline "alpha dog".)
posted by Smilla's Sense of Snark at 8:14 PM on March 6, 2007 [1 favorite]


Damned cat doesn't even understand Puppese. At least the young puppy has an excuse for not understanding Catin.

Come on, cat, it's a cute little puppy. You don't swat puppies, you fucking cuddle them.
posted by redteam at 8:45 PM on March 6, 2007


One of the things I find most fascinating about cat/dog interactions, is how perfectly opposite they are from one another. Cats purr when they are happy- Dogs growl (the closest similar sound) when they are angry. To dogs, prolonged eye contact can be a sign of dominance, whereas cats staring and slow blinking is a sign of affection. Dogs roll on their backs as a sign of submission where cats voluntarily choose it as a style of combat.

It's nearly like they are hard-wired to not understand one another, and I'm always amazed when you see them so happily co-existing. It almost gives me hope for the world.
posted by quin at 9:48 PM on March 6, 2007


And Smilla's Sense of Snark, I think most of it has to do with when they are introduced. Whomever is in the house first seems to have high ground when it comes to seniority. We have four cats (one shy of being crazy cat people) the first three were here before our first dog. They only occasionally deign to acknowledge her existence, whereas the littlest Siamese cat we got between the two dogs finds the first fascinating and the other one... well, to be totally honest, she considers him prey. Despite the fact that he is three times her weight (which ain't saying much, he's just a little rat terrier). She stalks that poor pooch and takes every opportunity to pounce on him.

Thankfully he is about as clueless as a brick and is totally oblivious to her menace. He just thinks she is petting him. Really fast. And he tries to give her Big Kisses in return for the favor.

The whole thing is, of course, very entertaining.
posted by quin at 9:57 PM on March 6, 2007


updated xkcd.com link, since the comic has moved off the front page. As i write this, my 6.5lb grey cat of fury is trying to push the laptop of my lap and take its space.
posted by mrzarquon at 11:33 PM on March 6, 2007


One of the things I find most fascinating about cat/dog interactions, is how perfectly opposite they are from one another.

Not to mention the VERY different meanings of tail-wagging! Stanley Coren goes into that whole cat-dog mixed signals thing in quite a bit of detail in one of his books...I think it was How To Speak Dog but I don't have my copy handy to doublecheck.

Although as far as the purr/growl thing goes...cats can certainly growl, too! At one point when she was "training" the pittie, she'd growl and charge her any time she spotted the poor dog (puppy meanwhile would instantly retreat and try to hide behind my legs). There definitely weren't any misread signals there.

(And yes, since it was all noise and posturing and nobody actually getting hurt, it was of course pure comedy gold.)

Seniority (I joke about "cat union rules") has to be part of it, but I think the personalities of the individual animals also comes into play. My old malamute preceded the cat by quite a bit, and had her ridiculously outsized -- yet he really let her get away with murder most of the time. She could eat and drink from his bowls, steal his toys, treat his tail as a giant cat toy, or hog his giant doggie bed, and he never objected to any of it. The only time he ever asserted his seniority... was when she tried to steal people food from my plate. That was pretty much the only time in his life I ever heard that dog growl: he knew who was supposed to be next in line for any tasty leftovers from the alphas, and it damn well wasn't the new kid!
posted by Smilla's Sense of Snark at 11:44 PM on March 6, 2007


stick to your guns kittie - he will sleep on the bed, he will piddle on your carpet - the only way to keep any semblance of order is to dominate and seeing as how humans are you are the one to do it!
posted by gnomesb at 3:22 AM on March 7, 2007


edison made special lectricity machine for playing messages from future

in future, all messages are on thing called World Wide Intar Wub.

World Wide Inrar Wub is for showing pictures of cats.

edison hate future.
posted by phearlez at 8:05 AM on March 7, 2007


This is why animals are so much better than kids. If you had a 5 week old kid and a 5 month old kid, they'd just sit there shitting themselves and drooling. They wouldn't fight or nuthin'.
posted by notmydesk at 9:59 AM on March 7, 2007 [1 favorite]


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