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	<title>Comments on: 400 digitized rare books</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:31:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>400 digitized rare books</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.rarebookroom.org/"&gt;The Rare Book Room&lt;/a&gt; presents about 400 of the world&apos;s greatest books from a variety of libraries in high resolution format. For some samples, check out: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Control/appast/index.html&quot;&gt;Apianus&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;em&gt;Astronomicum Caesareum&lt;/em&gt;); &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Control/blkin1/index.html&quot;&gt;Blake&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;em&gt;Songs of Innocence and Experience&lt;/em&gt;); &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Control/bclbzr/index.html&quot;&gt;Braccelli&lt;/a&gt; (Bizzarie di Varie Figure); &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Control/catthf/index.html&quot;&gt;Catesby&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;em&gt;The Natural History of Carolina&lt;/em&gt;...); &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Control/duruwm/index.html&quot;&gt;D&#0252;rer&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;em&gt;De Symmetria&lt;/em&gt;...); &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Control/colhyp/index.html&quot;&gt;Colonna&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;em&gt;Hypnerotomachia Poliphili&lt;/em&gt;). And on and on. The interface is great (use arrow far left at top for larger page image) but there&apos;s a slight browser resize in FFox. A couple of author names are placeholders for future uploads it seems. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://maudnewton.com/blog&quot;&gt;via&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:21:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>peacay</dc:creator>		<category>books</category>		<category>digitizedbooks</category>		<category>rarebooks</category>		<category>digitalbooks</category>		<category>collection</category>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618002</link>	
		<description>Note: The (relative) downside is that this is a browsing site and the segmented file arrangement of the larger images mean you can&apos;t download them, at least directly. I believe all of these books are accessible from other sites, many (not sure &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; many) particularly from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.octavo.com/&quot;&gt;Octavo&lt;/a&gt; - the company responsible for digitizing these works; but otherwise the library of origin is indicated.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:31:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618008</link>	
		<description>This is awesome!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:39:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618009</link>	
		<description>Some really beautiful stuff. Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:40:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ohdemah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618024</link>	
		<description>This is absolutely fantastic.  Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:53:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sidereal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618030</link>	
		<description>Sweeeeet! Excellent stuff, thanks for the post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:58:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618033</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s something so much more enjoyable in seeing the scans of the actual books, instead of just the images. Thanks, peacay!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:03:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boo_radley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618046</link>	
		<description>I lost an hour or so browsing through this site. Thanks, peacay!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:17:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mister_A</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618059</link>	
		<description>Color me addicted. Good-bye, productive Monday afternoon!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:25:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vacapinta</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618089</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Braccelli (Bizzarie di Varie Figure);&lt;/i&gt;

A gorgeous, gorgeous book. Thanks peacay!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:53:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the quidnunc kid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618099</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t want to be the one to burst the pustulent bubble of slap-backing that seems to be welling up like a nest of warts in this thread, but is a collection of rare books really a good idea at all?

As Borges notes, in ancient times a person could have read all the famous books then in existence, and thus claim for themselves the golden epithet of &quot;smartness&quot;.  Similarly, our forefather Adam was the best-read man of his time, there being no standard works to precede him.  Yet nowadays the number of books continually being published far outweighs the capacity of any reader - hence, we&apos;re all becoming more and more ignorant.

In that context, saving and displaying rare books - books which would otherwise be consigned to the dust-heap or the bonfire - is simply increasing the net stupidity of every person on Earth.

So let&apos;s stop this foolishness and instead construct a large, wicker librarian, in which we ritually immolate all the world&apos;s books and some librarians.  Only when the last volume is burned will we gain the wisdom to realise where we&apos;ve been going wrong all these years.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:00:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lentrohamsanin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618117</link>	
		<description>The quidnunc kid reminded me of this piece by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_future_of_book.html&quot;&gt;Umberto Eco&lt;/a&gt; referenced by &lt;a href=&quot;http://eddiecampbell.blogspot.com/2007/03/humument.html&quot;&gt;Eddie Campbell &lt;/a&gt;this morning. Eco also argues for a drop in the number of books published, though not exactly for the same reasons as the kid.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:13:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Devils Rancher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618146</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m sorry, but as nice an idea as it is, the jpeg artifacting is really pretty glaring. I like that they&apos;re doing this, but their idea of hi-res is not the same as mine. (Even 2 notches to the right on the ol&apos; quality slider would&apos;ve helped) That, &amp;amp; I&apos;m totally illiterate.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:29:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oneirodynia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618190</link>	
		<description>I really like this format. When I clicked on the Durer link, I could almost &lt;em&gt;smell&lt;/em&gt; the musty leather of the cover. It sent a small chill up my spine.

Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:49:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alvy Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618222</link>	
		<description>Very, very, cool! Bookmarked!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:03:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: misteraitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618289</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve often been intrigued by the titles digitised by Octavo over the years, so am very happy to see them made so freely accessible here. I hope this is just the beginning of an on-going project, and that this rare book room grows &amp;amp; grows: better-quality JPEGS would be nice, but this is very good, even so.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:34:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sappidus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618333</link>	
		<description>I puzzled out how to download a scan in one fell swoop. I guess I could be violating some unspoken intention of the site -- is it meant to be a fantastic peek into literary history? to encourage us to buy the CDs from Octavo? -- but since the originals you can buy are even higher-resolution (I believe), I figured it would be okay to show the method for getting these somewhat compressed, not-quite-as-high-res images.

Proof of concept:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Octavo/eucgeo/LargePhotos/015eucgeo21.jpg&quot;&gt;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Octavo/eucgeo/LargePhotos/015eucgeo21.jpg&lt;/a&gt;

The 3 digits &quot;015&quot; denote the scan number; I don&apos;t really know what the &quot;21&quot; stands for.

I couldn&apos;t figure out a foolproof shorthand way of making it work for every single book in the collection, but here&apos;s a &quot;longhand&quot; method: Go to the book, e.g., &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Control/shaf1b32/index.html&quot;&gt; Shakespeare&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Comedies, Histories, &amp;amp; Tragedies (Hamlet)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

View the HTML source for the page and look for the second occurrence of the string &quot;var clist =&quot;. Under that, there will be a list of image names, e.g.,
&lt;pre&gt;[[&apos;385shaf1b21.jpg&apos;,2000,1452],
[&apos;386shaf1b21.jpg&apos;,2000,1452],
[&apos;387shaf1b21.jpg&apos;,2000,1453],&lt;/pre&gt; etc.

Let&apos;s take &quot;385shaf1b21.jpg&quot;. The project name for the book is what&apos;s between the scan number and that last 21, so &quot;shaf1b&quot; in this case. That&apos;s what goes between &quot;Octavo&quot; and &quot;LargePhotos&quot; in the final link. At the end of the link goes the scan you want, here &quot;385shaf1b21.jpg&quot;. This yields:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Octavo/shaf1b/LargePhotos/385shaf1b21.jpg&quot;&gt;http://www.rarebookroom.org/Octavo/shaf1b/LargePhotos/385shaf1b21.jpg&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:02:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lupus_yonderboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618380</link>	
		<description>Unfortunately, no copies of the Necronomicon.  Bummer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:33:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618408</link>	
		<description>I purchased a book on CD-ROM  from Octavio when they first started but with the flood of choices from Archive.org and Google Books I forgot about them, now I can better appreciate the quality of scans they produce in comparison.

This does appear to be a medium resolution version made freely available of their complete catalog of over 400 books. 

Thanks sappidus for the method.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:46:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CitrusFreak12</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618617</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sappidus&lt;/strong&gt;: Assuming you&apos;re using firefox, an easier way would be to go to Tools, Page Info, Media, then scroll all the way down to the last picture. Copy the URL, and replace MediumPhotos with LargePhotos. That&apos;s what I did, at least.

A bit easier, IMHO.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:19:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: loquacious</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618619</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I don&apos;t want to be the one to burst the pustulent bubble of slap-backing that seems to be welling up like a nest of warts in this thread, but is a collection of rare books really a good idea at all?&lt;/em&gt;

Nicely done. I was right on the verge of a boiling rage before I started laughing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:20:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sappidus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618803</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;CitrusFreak12&lt;/b&gt;: Aha! Good catch; I always forget about that option in browsers. I actually use Safari, but a similar method will work if you select &quot;Window &amp;gt; Activity&quot; and poke around in the &quot;about: blank&quot; things for a while for the right URL form.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:40:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618861</link>	
		<description>Truly awesome. Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:45:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618920</link>	
		<description>Great stuff, apart from the spelling of digitised.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:39:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1618950</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;So let&apos;s stop this foolishness and instead construct a large, wicker librarian, in which we ritually immolate all the world&apos;s books and some librarians. Only when the last volume is burned will we gain the wisdom to realise where we&apos;ve been going wrong all these years.&lt;/i&gt;

Sounds like &lt;i&gt;Logan&apos;s Run&lt;/i&gt;. All knowledge older than one generation is destroyed to make room for the new. People devote themselves to writing &quot;the sum of all knowledge&quot; (Wikipedia), then occasionally wipe it clean and start over.  &quot;Sanctuary&quot; is the Library of Congress where old books are rumored to exist.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:14:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flibbertigibbet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59370/400-digitized-rare-books#1619999</link>	
		<description>You are awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:31:26 -0800</pubDate>
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