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	<title>Comments on: The Lives They Left Behind:  Suitcases from a State Hospital Attic</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:36:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The Lives They Left Behind:  Suitcases from a State Hospital Attic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.suitcaseexhibit.org/indexhasflash.html"&gt;The Lives They Left Behind.&lt;/a&gt; Previously&lt;/a&gt; on MeFi, the Village Voice &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0404,gonnerman,50565,1.html&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt;.  Related are efforts to restore cemeteries located on the grounds of old &quot;insane asylums,&quot; creating memorials  See information from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realchangenews.org/archive3/2005_02_02/current/news4.html&quot;&gt;Washington&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/08/294697.shtml&quot;&gt;Massachusetts&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.taphophilia.com/modules.php?name=News&amp;file=print&amp;sid=302&quot;&gt;New Hampshire&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.state.ga.us/departments/dhr/cemetery4.html&quot;&gt;Georgia&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:31:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ClaudiaCenter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1628909</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/30990/What-they-left-behind&quot;&gt;Previously&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: quin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1628938</link>	
		<description>What a fascinating and depressing find. It amazes me that some of these people were still being held into the 1980s. 

Great post ClaudiaCenter

&lt;small&gt;I did think the interface was a little clunky in the first link, but the material was so interesting that it was more than worth the minor annoyance.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:23:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: metasonix</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1628951</link>	
		<description>Sometimes young people get the bizarre idea that abuse and exploitation are new ideas, and that things were &quot;better&quot; in the 19th century. Yet, we keep seeing stories about 19th-century psychiatric institutions and what they did to otherwise functioning human beings.

Especially in the mid-20th century, when &quot;advanced therapies&quot; became available. Thorazine and ECT were doled out with smug indifference, and state governments loved having the low-cost labor force. Only in the last 20 years have most of these hellholes been closed down.

One can then ask: if they were such great places, why were laws changed to shut them down?

Good post, thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:32:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: metasonix</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1628960</link>	
		<description>Another thing this exhibit mentions....isn&apos;t it interesting how many of these people were recent immigrants to America? And how many of them were committed for being &quot;noisome&quot;, for being disorderly drunks, or for having epilepsy or other seizure conditions?

Warehouses. For a paranoid society, to hide their messier members.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:43:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ColdChef</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1628973</link>	
		<description>Self link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com/photos/gjcharlet/249986184/in/photostream/&quot;&gt;This is the cemetery behind the East Louisiana State Hospital.&lt;/a&gt;

Built in 1847. There&apos;s no telling how many unmarked graves there are on the hospital grounds. Every time we go out there to dig a grave, we have to be careful not to dig one up. 

&quot;East&quot;, as it&apos;s called by locals, was where people were sent from New Orleans for psychological conditions. It&apos;s the hospital referred to in &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_Through_Slaughter&quot;&gt;Coming Through Slaughter &lt;/a&gt;by Michael Ondaatje, a fictionalised version of the life of the New Orleans jazz pioneer Buddy Bolden.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:54:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adoarns</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1628995</link>	
		<description>My medical school is situated on the former grounds of a state hospital. Am told in its day was really something, a model of progressivism. Patients lived semi-independently in &quot;cottages&quot; on the hospital grounds.

All the cottages and other buildings of the hospital are long gone, though appropriately enough a new psychiatric hospital has gone up on the eastern end of the land. It&apos;s not as &quot;progressive&quot; as the cottages, but having met and helped treat patients there, I&apos;m rather glad they&apos;re less free.

Anyway, there&apos;s an old graveyard on the grounds somewhere where all the patients who died at the state hospital were buried. Now I&apos;ve got to find it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:16:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dr. Twist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1629022</link>	
		<description>Similarly, a couple of years ago a&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mentalhealthportland.org/Memorial.html&quot;&gt; project&lt;/a&gt; was started here in Oregon to return all of the unclaimed remains of people who died at the Oregon state hospital</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:45:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alicesshoe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1629032</link>	
		<description>Wow.
Wonderful presentation, well written. Gentle, compared to the lives lived there.

Reminded me of other suitcases I saw while visiting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.auschwitz-muzeum.oswiecim.pl/html/eng/start/index.php&quot;&gt;Auschwitz&lt;/a&gt; back in the 70&apos;s. Displays of suitcases, glasses and material made out of people&apos;s hair. I though I&apos;d pass out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:52:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: robocop is bleeding</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1629040</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do it, Gordon.

Do it, Gordon.

Do it now.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:03:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monster_Zero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1629059</link>	
		<description>oh, definitely, robocop. Just the movie I was thinking of. (plus, I was floored when I watched with the commentary track and found out Danvers was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.danvers-state-ia.com/&quot;&gt;very real&lt;/a&gt; and required little alteration to be suitable for filming)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:30:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1629324</link>	
		<description>Actually I was reminded for some reason of the black and white photo that comes at the end of &quot;The Shining&quot;. The one with smiling Jack in the middle of the ballroom dance crowd. Don&apos;t know why, maybe the mixture of insanity and forgotten photos of happier times.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:19:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59645/The-Lives-They-Left-Behind-Suitcases-from-a-State-Hospital-Attic#1629325</link>	
		<description>And thanks for post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:19:33 -0800</pubDate>
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