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  	<title>The Create a Comic Project</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project</link>	
    <description>&quot;The &lt;a href=&quot;http://ccproject.comicgenesis.com/&quot;&gt;Create a Comic Project&lt;/a&gt; (CCP) is an activity that teaches children creative writing through comics.&quot; In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18096585&amp;BRD=1281&amp;PAG=461&amp;dept_id=7576&amp;rfi=6&quot;&gt;New Haven, CT&lt;/a&gt;, John Baird works with children to teach writing, art, and creativity in an afterschool program. The results are often surreal, and frequently entertaining. His inspiration? The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yukihime.com/comics/paremix/&quot;&gt;Penny Arcade Remix Project&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;(from today&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=846&quot;&gt;QC newspost&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt; </description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:41:31 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Eideteker</dc:creator>
	
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  	<title>By: Eideteker</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633639</link>	
    <description>WARNING: Some are large, progressive JPEGs. Not dialup-friendly.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:41:54 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Eideteker</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: WaterSprite</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633682</link>	
    <description>Why didn&apos;t the teacher correct their grammar?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:09:43 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>WaterSprite</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: WaterSprite</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633683</link>	
    <description>And spelling.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:09:51 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>WaterSprite</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: delmoi</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633705</link>	
    <description>Heh, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ccproject.comicgenesis.com/d/20061130.html&quot;&gt;are you over with your moment&lt;/a&gt;&quot;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:27:23 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: delmoi</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633709</link>	
    <description>Hmm, thse are mostly incomprehensible.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:32:05 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>delmoi</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: eunoia</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633725</link>	
    <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ccproject.comicgenesis.com/d/20061221.html&quot;&gt;Haha!&lt;/a&gt;  I read about this in the Register and was curious to see the actual comics, so thanks for posting.  Kids are freaking weird.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:51:48 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: WaterSprite</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633728</link>	
    <description>&lt;em&gt;Hmm, thse are mostly incomprehensible.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, and mostly reprehensible.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:52:18 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>WaterSprite</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Eideteker</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633749</link>	
    <description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Why didn&apos;t the teacher correct their grammar?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I think the point is more to encourage creativity and get them &lt;em&gt;interested &lt;/em&gt;in writing and reading than to teach them English. They already have classes for that, before the &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt;school program.

Honestly, if my kid brought home one of these, I would put it on my fridge. It&apos;s delicious non-linearity that (I thought) was too sweet to scorn (oh, right, it&apos;s MeFi). And it proves you don&apos;t need drugs; at least not until puberty.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:15:24 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Eideteker</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Eideteker</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633752</link>	
    <description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Hmm, thse are mostly incomprehensible.&quot;
posted by &lt;strong&gt;delmoi&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/em&gt;

lol</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:16:24 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: hurdy gurdy girl</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633755</link>	
    <description>Water Sprite asked:&lt;i&gt;Why didn&apos;t the teacher correct their grammar [and spelling]?&lt;/i&gt;

It&apos;s a good question, and the answer is probably going to sound didactic. However, in case you really were wondering, sometimes when teaching language the instructor focuses on accuracy (getting the language correct in terms of grammar/spelling, etc.), and sometimes on fluency (the ability to speak or write easily without long, painful silences or writer&apos;s block). This seems to be a fluency exercise. The teacher probably worked on accuracy in a different part of the lesson. [/didactic]

I saw the original post for the Penny Arcade Remix and used the activity with my beginner ESL class. They enjoyed it immensely, and it was a great fluency exercise. Some of the results really were (intentionally and not so intentionally) hilarious. I still have them in my office.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:18:05 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: hurdy gurdy girl</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633780</link>	
    <description>Or exactly what Eideteker said.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:47:13 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Grod</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633799</link>	
    <description>Eideteker but are they really &lt;a href=&quot;http://simulatedcomicproduct.com/index.php?cid=36&quot;&gt; good enough for the fridge&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:05:10 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: mai</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633802</link>	
    <description>These reminded me of what my kids would write.  I cracked up at several of them.  Especially, &quot;Are you over with your moment?&quot;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:08:59 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: WaterSprite</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633805</link>	
    <description>Some of the results really were (intentionally and not so intentionally) hilarious.

I&apos;m sorry if I offend anyone, but both of my parents emigrated to the US and speak impeccable English (albeit with accents) and write without flaws.  I also taught English in a former life, when it mattered.  I don&apos;t find this hiliarious, and I have a fabulous sense of humor.  I guess I used to be a bleeding heart liberal, but the bastardization of the English language is very, very sad to me.  I also think that teachers just don&apos;t care any more.  That is also very very sad.   Sorry, knock me off my soapbox, but it&apos;s not cute at all.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:09:51 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>WaterSprite</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: BlackLeotardFront</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633905</link>	
    <description>Ahaha, I love that PA remix thing.
&quot;How is the weather today&quot;
&quot;Fine and sometimes bear&quot;

Remember, WaterSprite, these are being done by kids who are like 10 years old.  Don&apos;t think I don&apos;t agree with you, but let&apos;s give them some time... if they&apos;re 20 and write like that we can all pigpile on the bastards.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:04:00 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>BlackLeotardFront</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1633955</link>	
    <description>&lt;em&gt;Why didn&apos;t the teacher correct their grammar [and spelling]?&lt;/em&gt;

Are you kidding? &lt;a href=&quot;http://artport.whitney.org/commissions/thedumpster/dumpster.shtml&quot;&gt;That&apos;s how ppl write these dayz lol&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;the bastardization of the English language&lt;/em&gt;

You seem to have a supreme sense of ironic humour. Or you could just be American.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:56:03 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: hurdy gurdy girl</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1634430</link>	
    <description>I wrote: &lt;i&gt;Some of the results really were (intentionally and not so intentionally) hilarious.&lt;/i&gt;

Water Sprite wrote: &lt;i&gt;I&apos;m sorry if I offend anyone, but both of my parents emigrated to the US and speak impeccable English (albeit with accents) and write without flaws. I also taught English in a former life, when it mattered. I don&apos;t find this hiliarious, and I have a fabulous sense of humor. I guess I used to be a bleeding heart liberal, but the bastardization of the English language is very, very sad to me. I also think that teachers just don&apos;t care any more. That is also very very sad. Sorry, knock me off my soapbox, but it&apos;s not cute at all.&lt;/i&gt;

The students I used this with were &lt;i&gt;beginner&lt;/i&gt; English as a Second Language students. They were at the beginning of a long process of learning to write and speak correctly. Using comic strips was a way to let them use their limited English to write down some simple jokes. People simply do not go from having zero English to being fluent--it is a long process and my students were at the beginning of their English learning. I don&apos;t know where these CCP students are, but I&apos;d suspect some of them are second-language learners also.

I wouldn&apos;t want to see poor spelling and grammar go uncorrected at all--I am a stickler for grammar--but my point was, there is a time and a place for correcting accuracy. It needs to be done, but it needs to be balanced with opportunities for creativity and self-expression. And likewise--that creativity and self-expression can&apos;t come at the expense of learning correct grammar. It&apos;s a matter of balancing both things.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:52:10 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>hurdy gurdy girl</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: hurdy gurdy girl</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/59768/The-Create-a-Comic-Project#1634432</link>	
    <description>&quot;Where these CCP students are&quot; should read &quot;what level these CCP students are at.&quot;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:54:15 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>hurdy gurdy girl</dc:creator>
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