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	<title>Comments on: Victim of The Brain</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:45:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Victim of The Brain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://video.google.com/url?docid=8576072297424860224&amp;esrc=sr3&amp;ev=v&amp;q=hofstadter&amp;vidurl=http://video.google.com/videoplay%3Fdocid%3D8576072297424860224%26q%3Dhofstadter&amp;usg=AL29H23QfEYjd60hmbjduaa8IvX"&gt;Victim of the Brain&lt;/a&gt; A &apos;docudrama&apos; about &lt;a href=&quot;http://geb.stenius.org/&quot;&gt;Godel, Escher and Bach&lt;/a&gt; author, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Hofstadter&quot;&gt;Douglas Hofstadter&lt;/a&gt;, and philosopher &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett&quot;&gt;Dan Dennett&lt;/a&gt; produced in 1988.  I&apos;m not sure how to describe it, other than incredibly strange and fascinating.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:44:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>empath</dc:creator>		<category>philosophy</category>		<category>artificialintelligence</category>		<category>ai</category>		<category>computers</category>		<category>mind</category>		<category>godel</category>		<category>escher</category>		<category>bach</category>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649176</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t know if you can tell from recent fpps, but my new internet addiction is searching Google Video for &quot;Documentary&quot;, filtering by duration=long.  There&apos;s a ton of great stuff there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:45:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649177</link>	
		<description>And i botched the link:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/url?docid=8576072297424860224&amp;esrc=sr3&amp;ev=v&amp;q=hofstadter&amp;vidurl=http://video.google.com/videoplay%3Fdocid%3D8576072297424860224%26q%3Dhofstadter&amp;usg=AL29H23QfEYjd60hmbjduaa8IvXmEKlFYQ&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; the correct link.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:46:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>empath</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mach5</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649195</link>	
		<description>awesome, now i know what to do when i get to work today.  are you a strange loop too?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:15:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jofus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649208</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve always wondered what Hofstadter looked like. Another mystery solved by Metafilter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:29:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ewkpates</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649209</link>	
		<description>little bit frustrated that I can&apos;t watch the video at work.  little bit more frustrated that people post links that they &quot;are not sure how to describe&quot;.

little bit unacceptable.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:30:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649211</link>	
		<description>Um, if you watched it, you would probably understand.  I think if you read the wiki articles about Hofstadter and Dennett and the GEB link, you&apos;d get the gist of what the subject matter will be.  But the movie itself is really weird.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:31:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BeerGrin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649212</link>	
		<description>&quot;Godel, Escher and Bach&quot; is my favorite brain exercise. 
If I feel like I am getting stagnant or to set in my ways of thinking I go back to trying to read it.  I love it, but I will admit that much of what Hofstadter says is way out of my league.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:33:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: painquale</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649217</link>	
		<description>Hah, I&apos;ve seen this before and it&apos;s great and totally weird.  I got &lt;em&gt;I Am a Strange Loop&lt;/em&gt; in the mail from Amazon yesterday, and I&apos;m going to see Hofstadter give a talk in a couple of weeks.  Looking forward to it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:41:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ethereal Bligh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649225</link>	
		<description>Hofstadter is my hero.  I&apos;d love to meet him, but I&apos;d probably get cold feet just like I did with Murray Gell-Mann.  I like Dennett quite a bit, too, but I wasn&apos;t nervous talking with him.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:52:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ethereal Bligh</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: notsnot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649240</link>	
		<description>Hofstadter is awesome.  He was probably the only person quirky enough to replace Martin Gardner at SciAm. GEB is my personal philosophical touchstone.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:13:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elmono</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649301</link>	
		<description>Wonderful!. Thanks a lot.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:17:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ethereal Bligh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649308</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;He was probably the only person quirky enough to replace Martin Gardner at SciAm.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, but he was controversial because of his political/social activism in his columns.  Which I thought was great.  But I think that&apos;s why his tenure was so short.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:30:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BlackLeotardFront</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649648</link>	
		<description>Awesome, I&apos;ll have to fave this to watch it when I actually finish GEB.  Great book.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:06:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stormygrey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649777</link>	
		<description>GEB is the only book I have ever not been able to finish. It still mocks me on the shelf. The issue is I just can&apos;t skip over parts I don&apos;t get. DAMN!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:34:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BitterOldPunk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1649792</link>	
		<description>I like the idea of a discussion of Hofstadter taking place within this hive mind. Reading &lt;em&gt;I Am a Strange Loop&lt;/em&gt; now, and it&apos;s exhilarating, even if much of it flies leagues above my little pointy head.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:43:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lukemeister</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1650354</link>	
		<description>This will sound like a troll, but it&apos;s not. I&apos;ve somehow managed not to read a word by Hofstadter, despite being in the target demographic. Can someone clue me in why I should read his books?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:38:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: litfit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1650768</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;This will sound like a troll, but it&apos;s not. I&apos;ve somehow managed not to read a word by Hofstadter, despite being in the target demographic. Can someone clue me in why I should read his books?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I blame him for inspiring me to leave a gainful career in software engineering to return to school and do a degree in linguistics. I still write software, but women think I&apos;m a lot more interesting now. Maybe you&apos;d like to be more interesting to women, is that a good enough reason?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:09:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lukemeister</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1650907</link>	
		<description>litfit: That&apos;s a great answer. I&apos;ll try Goedel, Escher, Bach and then see what my wife thinks :-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:33:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: notsnot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/60191/Victim-of-The-Brain#1650918</link>	
		<description>Stormygrey, I&apos;ve got the background to understand it, mostly, but occasionally skipped small bits.  Push Forward - read it!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:45:51 -0800</pubDate>
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