Comments on: There's Good In Evel

There's Good In Evel

ba — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:51:46 -0800

There's Good In Evel. 70's icon (and my own personal role model at the time) "Evel" Knievel spoke on Palm Sunday at the Crystal Cathedral about his miraculous conversion to Christianity during Daytona Bike Week. Immediately, between 500 and 800 people committed or rededicated their lives to God. Found via J-Walk.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:57:43 -0800

Well Knievel only jumped Snake River Canyon. Jesus would've walked.

By: blucevalo

blucevalo — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:58:18 -0800

I rose up in bed and, I was by myself, and I said, 'Devil, Devil, you bastard you, get away from me. I cast you out of my life.' That does sound like something Evel Knievel would say.

By: Shfishp

Shfishp — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:58:23 -0800

Immediately following this mass conversion, Evel jumped on his bike and jumped all 800 people, only to crash horribly on the landing ramp, breaking 22 bones. He is, however, expected to jump again.

By: phaedon

phaedon — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:59:36 -0800

Make that between 501 and 801.

By: cavalier

cavalier — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:02:34 -0800

LOL@Shfiship :) Is he still suing Kanye?

By: cavalier

cavalier — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:06:29 -0800

If you hit the Crystal Cathedral link, you can watch the telecast of his speech. Can't say I saw him smile, even once. Freaky to see Schueller still kickin it freestyle, too. Tempus fugit.

By: Bort

Bort — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:10:04 -0800

"I don't know what in the world happened. I don't know if it was the power of the prayer or God himself, but it just reached out, either while I was driving or walking down the sidewalk or sleeping, and it just—the power of God in Jesus just grabbed me. ... All of a sudden, I just believed in Jesus Christ." Wouldn't you remember whether such a sudden, powerful event happened while you were driving, walking down the sidewalk, or sleeping?

By: phaedon

phaedon — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:13:36 -0800

direct link, 300k wmv

By: ba

ba — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:14:55 -0800

Wouldn't you remember whether such a sudden, powerful event happened while you were driving, walking down the sidewalk, or sleeping? I got one word: lotsofpainkillers

By: srboisvert

srboisvert — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:20:19 -0800

Woah! Evel jumped the shark!

By: phaedon

phaedon — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:22:44 -0800

Chill, Jules, this shit happens.

By: TedW

TedW — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:26:56 -0800

Well Knievel only jumped Snake River Canyon. Actually he ended up in the river. But he still didn't walk across it.

By: Atom Eyes

Atom Eyes — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:26:56 -0800

Immediately, between 500 and 800 people committed or rededicated their lives to God. Oh, I see. And I suppose if Evel Knievel were to jump off a bridge, you'd all rush out to do that, too?

By: TedW

TedW — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:30:24 -0800

...he couldn't walk away from the gold and the gambling and the booze and the women. Based on the behaviour of any number of televangelists, I didn't think you had to.

By: MasonDixon

MasonDixon — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:33:30 -0800

It sounds like the symbols of Christianity were always "true" to him. He never doubted their truth or their validity, he simply chose not to conform to his understanding of the truth of Christianity. If a certain symbol set is real to you, is conforming to the demands of those symbols really a conversion? Wasn't his protestation and refusal to conform actually attesting to the reality of those symbols for him all along? And within the staid pews of the Crystal Cathedral the only way to express emotion or religious fervor is to do what those 500-800 people did. They can't fall out like Pentecostals or fall back on mysticism like Catholics their only recourse is to walk the aisle to "rededicate" or (re)confirm their salvation.

By: quonsar

quonsar — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:40:40 -0800

If a certain symbol set is real to you, is conforming to the demands of those symbols really a conversion? Wasn't his protestation and refusal to conform actually attesting to the reality of those symbols for him all along? good point. more like a surrender. awesome.

By: humblepigeon

humblepigeon — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:48:48 -0800

"Late" converters to Christianity, like Mr Knieval, get on my nerves. "I was rich, a f***ed a thousand beautiful women, I put more snow up my nose than you'll find on the Andes... But it meant nothing. I was empty inside. And then I found God." (Note that I'm not saying this doesn't apply to Mr Knieval—just identifying a type). Thing is, that really sucks for people who found God earlier on, or who had pretty miserable lives and then found God. Effectively, late converters have the best of both worlds. They gorge themselves on material things, and then gorge themselves in redemption afterward. You can only be forgiven of your sins if you've actually committed the damn things. There should be an age cut-off for evangelistic episodes—maybe 35, or something.

By: 2sheets

2sheets — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:52:13 -0800

He's always been a thuggish asshole and a hypocrite. I'm sure he'll fit right in.

By: srboisvert

srboisvert — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:07:01 -0800

Forget God. I am going to rededicate my life to the awesomeness of the seventies. Evel Knievel, CB Radio, Keep on Truckin, Burt Reynold's hair, Six Million Dollar man noises and Bionic Woman camel toe, Mesh t shirts, center parted feathered hair and pre-plastic playboy centerfolds. Banana seat bicycles with sissy bar and chopper handle bars. Nike Waffle trainers, Conan the barbarian comic books, national geographic nudity, wood paneled basement rec rooms with shag rugs and family cars that would make a hummer look puny. Nasa badges on schoolkid's backbacks, AC/DC panels on jean jackets, CHiPs, The original family fued, the mike douglas show, Hockey Night in Canada before Don Cherry, garage ping pong, and best of all those crazy shorts girls wore in gym class. Good times. The future has failed to live up them.

By: phaedon

phaedon — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:08:49 -0800

Money-shot: "I read... uh, wrote, a book, called 'Evil Ways'. I said I had a better life than any king, president or prince. Hogwash. I didn't have Jesus Christ in my life. I was talking about the Rolls-Royces I had. Five of them. The Ferraris that I had. Five of them. The Stetsas. The Lamborghinis. The jet airplanes. Two of them. I flew one along side of the other so I could read my name on the side of 'em. Yeah. Evil Knievel. My dad said, who you gonna impress at 40,000 feet, at 600 miles per hour?" -- Evil Knievel, Crystal Cathedral

By: kittens for breakfast

kittens for breakfast — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:11:33 -0800

I am going to rededicate my life to the awesomeness of the seventies. I welcome you into our flock, brother.

By: LordSludge

LordSludge — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:12:27 -0800

Oh man. I was the BIGGEST Evel Knievel fan when I was, like, 7. My parents even bought me an awesome Evel Kneivel BMX-ish bicycle that was all dressed up like his stars'n'stripes motorcycle. Of course, I proceeded to jump it off all manner of ramps and stairs (jumped off 7 stairs onto flat concrete one time..), eventually breaking the frame itself. Don't buy your kid an Evel Knievel bike.

By: zorro astor

zorro astor — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:00:04 -0800

There's no wikipedia article about Evel Knieval?! Am I doing something wrong? I know I'm not drunk.

By: konolia

konolia — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:03:17 -0800

Thing is, that really sucks for people who found God earlier on, or who had pretty miserable lives and then found God. Effectively, late converters have the best of both worlds Only a nonconverted person would agree with the above statement. I became a Christian in early adulthood. I indulged in quite a few sinful behaviors beforehand, drugs, etcetera (and no I am not going to elaborate.) If I could go back in time and eliminate those behaviors from my life I would do it in a heartbeat. Yeah, sin is fun for a season, but it rots your soul, and you feel the rotting of it way before you get around to realizing you need to repent. TRUE Christianity is a lot of fun. Legalistic and/or dry religion, not so much.

By: LordSludge

LordSludge — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:15:50 -0800

There's no wikipedia article about Evel Knieval?! Am I doing something wrong? I know I'm not drunk. Well that's yer problem right there! (and spelling) wiki

By: MarshallPoe

MarshallPoe — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:17:13 -0800

What konolia said.

By: Faint of Butt

Faint of Butt — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:29:09 -0800

Wouldn't you remember whether such a sudden, powerful event happened while you were driving, walking down the sidewalk, or sleeping? He fell asleep behind the wheel and ended up driving on the sidewalk.

By: adamgreenfield

adamgreenfield — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:33:43 -0800

~~you feel~~ I felt the rotting of it way before ~~you get~~ I got around to realizing ~~you need~~ I needed to repent. Fixed that for ya.

By: JHarris

JHarris — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:43:09 -0800

There should be an age cut-off for evangelistic episodes—maybe 35, or something. Whether that age was chosen because it's close to Jesus' lifespan, or right at the minimum age to become President, either way it is an interesting idea.

By: phaedon

phaedon — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:03:52 -0800

Whether that age was chosen because it's close to Jesus' lifespan, Shit, I am totally running out of time.

By: grubi

grubi — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:40:26 -0800

I am going to rededicate my life to the awesomeness of the seventies. Your ideas are intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

By: grubi

grubi — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:43:05 -0800

Whether that age was chosen because it's close to Jesus' lifespan, or right at the minimum age to become President Perfect. One can compromise by setting it at 34.

By: Pecinpah

Pecinpah — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:54:15 -0800

I had the Evel Knieval doll/bike. I used to make him fight my Spock doll. Evel always won ('cause he had a cape). I had a good time in the 70's, but I'm not sure why people are so nostalgic for it. I guess the reasons I might list to evidence its inferiority to our own time (rotary phones, no remote control anything, comically bad hair, poor special effects in movies, etc.) are the very reasons some people long for it. But, Christ, I have the internet on my cellphone!

By: ba

ba — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:02:07 -0800

I also had the Evel Knieval doll/stunt cycle. He used to fight with (and beat) the stupid blue Evel with the stupid blue chopper (which I also, for some reason, had).

By: jason's_planet

jason's_planet — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:10:20 -0800

Evel Knievel: Office Daredevil

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:24:48 -0800

Okay so... could someone please explain to me why the man is even still alive? 'Cuz he really should've just died a bloody, nasty, public death a long time ago. Any way we could trade him in to Our Lord God and Savior and get the Crocodile Hunter back?

By: jimmythefish

jimmythefish — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:32:46 -0800

This reminds me of my miraculous conversion to Albanian Orthodox while attending the AMA Flat Track half-mile twins in Saluda, VA.

By: roll truck roll

roll truck roll — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:29:20 -0800

MasonDixon typed "It sounds like the symbols of Christianity were always 'true' to him. He never doubted their truth or their validity, he simply chose not to conform to his understanding of the truth of Christianity.

"If a certain symbol set is real to you, is conforming to the demands of those symbols really a conversion? Wasn't his protestation and refusal to conform actually attesting to the reality of those symbols for him all along?" I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that, in order for a spiitual experience to be truly lifechanging, it must involve spiritual ephemera from outside of the subject's own culture? If so, I would beg to differ. The need for otherness in religious experience has led to an awful lot of New Age materialism, among other things.

By: phaedon

phaedon — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:35:37 -0800

New Age materialism Are you referring to my eelskin yoga mat?

By: Bora Horza Gobuchul

Bora Horza Gobuchul — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:35:54 -0800

Hell, I didn't know this about the guy. Takes the shine right off him:

While Knievel was healing from his latest round of injuries, the book Evel Knievel on Tour was released. Authored by Knievel's promoter for the Snake River Canyon jump, Sheldon Saltman, the book painted a less than perfect picture of Knievel's character and alleged that he abused his wife and kids and that he used drugs. Knievel, with both arms still in casts, flew to California to confront Saltman, a VP at Twentieth Century Fox. Outside the studio commissary, one of Knievel's friends grabbed Shelly and held him, while Knievel attacked him with an aluminum baseball bat, declaring, "I'm going to kill you!" According to a witness to the attack, Knievel struck repeated blows at Saltman's head, with Saltman blocking the blows with his left arm. Saltman's arm and wrist were shattered in several places before he fell to the ground unconscious. It took numerous surgeries and permanent metal plates in his arm to eventually give Saltman back the use of his arm. He had been a left-handed competitive tennis player before the attack. When reports of the savage attack on Saltman were shown on the evening news, Saltman's elderly mother back in Boston suffered a heart attack from the shock and died soon thereafter. In addition, Sheldon Saltman's book was pulled from the shelves by the publisher after Knievel threatened to sue. Saltman later produced documents in both criminal and civil court that proved that, although Knievel claimed to have been insulted by statements in Saltman's book, he and his lawyers had actually been given editorial access to the book and had approved and signed off on every word prior to its publication. A judge in the case called Knievel's actions among the "most despicable" and "cowardly" that he had ever seen. On October 14, 1977, Knievel pleaded guilty to battery and was sentenced to three years probation and six months in the county jail, during which he publicly flaunted his brief incarceration for the press as just one more publicity stunt.

Maybe now that he's converted, he'll pay up the $13 million he was found to owe to Saltman?

By: staggernation

staggernation — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:43:43 -0800

I rose up in bed Classic hangover conversion.

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:00:42 -0800

The guy has never, as in EVER, had a reputation for being particularly nice or sin-free prior to his conversion. Not that I've ever heard of anyhow.

By: psmealey

psmealey — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:23:56 -0800

The 90s were my 70s, and I'll wager that they were better. If only because we had better weed and natural fibers.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:44:50 -0800

The 90s were my 70s, and I'll wager that they were better. If only because we had better weed and natural fibers. Yes, but sadly, by all reports, we got laid less, which trumps everything else.

By: maxwelton

maxwelton — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:57:12 -0800

(and no I am not going to elaborate.) There may be something in this god thing, because I prayed for no elaboration ("oh god no no no") and there my prayers were answered, in the same sentence, even. Evel is a schmuck. He was before he saw his death looming and "repented," and now he's even more so.

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:13:04 -0800

Immediately, between 500 and 800 people committed or rededicated their lives to God. Between 500 and 800 people are fucking idiots. I mean, I can just about bring myself to respect people who believe in God, but people who suddenly believe in God because some bloke who jumped over some stuff on a motorbike does... no. Idiots.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:06:36 -0800

I do not like Mr. Evel Knievel.

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:16:46 -0800

"Women are the root of all evil. I ought to know. I'm Evel."

By: MapGuy

MapGuy — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:23:09 -0800

After seeing this I have rededicated myself. I pulled up Craig's List, bought a dirt bike 87 XR 200, 87' XR 200 , a stars and stripes helmet , Thor boots (German Nilist type with silver buckles) and by God I'm gonna jump something. I shit you not.

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:06:05 -0800

Evel Knievel quotes from kirkaracha's link: Heaven is a place you can go and drink a lot of draft beer and it don't make you fat. You can cheat on your wife and she don't get mad. You get a beautiful female chauffeur with nice, hard tits--real ones. There are motorcycle jumps you never miss. You don't need a tee time. I don't believe in hell. I don't believe in gods or Jesus Christ or sacred cows. I don't believe in that big, fat-assed Buddha. Show me one piece of Noah's ark. Show me one piece of the tablets that Moses was supposed to have brought down from the mountain. People need a crutch. They need to make up stories. I don't want to do that. We must tax the churches. Freedom of religion is bullshit when it's tax-free. Somehow I'm thinking he didn't mention any of this stuff at the Crystal Cathedral.

By: Ynoxas

Ynoxas — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:07:00 -0800

I have lost all, and I mean all respect, for the man, as of this instant. Evel was a son-of-a-bitch, an asshole. And he was unrepentant. He was someone who was, truly, unafraid. Of anything. He wasn't afraid of lawyers, or judges, or hellfire-and-brimstone preachers, or death. He, truly, was completely unafraid to die. That was worthy of my admiration growing up. Be who you are, and if someone doesn't like it, look them in the eye, and tell them to fuck off. But now, he's just an embarrassment. A sham, a charlatan, a COWARD, just like everyone else. Hey Evel. Fuck off.