Tony Blair tells Cabinet he will quit.
May 10, 2007 3:56 AM Subscribe
Hasn't he been saying this for months? Just go and do it already!
posted by chillmost at 4:01 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by chillmost at 4:01 AM on May 10, 2007
Don't worry, plep! We'll go down to the pound tomorrow and get George Bush a new lap dog!
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:08 AM on May 10, 2007 [6 favorites]
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:08 AM on May 10, 2007 [6 favorites]
They're broadcasting his speech live on Chinese telly right now. I forgot how much I disliked his speaking style.
posted by Abiezer at 4:08 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by Abiezer at 4:08 AM on May 10, 2007
June 27th!
posted by lemonfridge at 4:12 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by lemonfridge at 4:12 AM on May 10, 2007
About 4 years too late. (Blair's resignation, not this post.)
posted by MrMustard at 4:18 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by MrMustard at 4:18 AM on May 10, 2007
All he was waiting for was for Stormont to get back to business. He's got his legacy. Peace in a tiny little province still doesn't quite wash the blood of hundreds of thousands from his hands.
posted by twistedonion at 4:20 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by twistedonion at 4:20 AM on May 10, 2007
Buhbye, asshole.
Man had some good ideas and style, but he threw it all away on a sucker bet.
posted by spitbull at 4:20 AM on May 10, 2007 [2 favorites]
Man had some good ideas and style, but he threw it all away on a sucker bet.
posted by spitbull at 4:20 AM on May 10, 2007 [2 favorites]
So, any chance of them growing some fucking bollocks and going back to being Old Labour?
posted by Jimbob at 4:29 AM on May 10, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by Jimbob at 4:29 AM on May 10, 2007 [2 favorites]
The real news this week is no more fucking John Reid telling us we're all about to be killed if we don't trust him.
posted by cillit bang at 4:30 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by cillit bang at 4:30 AM on May 10, 2007
Jimbob - about as much chance as the GOP going back to being fiscally conservative.
posted by chuckdarwin at 4:32 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by chuckdarwin at 4:32 AM on May 10, 2007
So, any chance of them growing some fucking bollocks and going back to being Old Labour?
Wouldn't that be amazing, until the voters shat themselves at the possibility of a return to the late 70's and voted for Cameron in the next election.
We desperately need some new parties rather than rehashes of the same old shite.
posted by twistedonion at 4:35 AM on May 10, 2007
Wouldn't that be amazing, until the voters shat themselves at the possibility of a return to the late 70's and voted for Cameron in the next election.
We desperately need some new parties rather than rehashes of the same old shite.
posted by twistedonion at 4:35 AM on May 10, 2007
Is this the part where he hits the self-destruct button on his way out the door?
posted by Acey at 4:35 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by Acey at 4:35 AM on May 10, 2007
He acknowledged his government had not always lived up to high expectations but said he had been very lucky to lead "the greatest nation on earth".
Why is every country the greatest nation on earth? Are their heads of states of any countries willing to admit that they're mediocre, at best?
posted by empath at 4:52 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Why is every country the greatest nation on earth? Are their heads of states of any countries willing to admit that they're mediocre, at best?
posted by empath at 4:52 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Oh, well, he is right about that by any objective metric, empath. Abroad is just shit and foreigners are funny. Some of you don't even have a Queen, for God's sake.
posted by Abiezer at 4:56 AM on May 10, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by Abiezer at 4:56 AM on May 10, 2007 [2 favorites]
empath asks Why is every country the greatest nation on earth? Are their heads of states of any countries willing to admit that they're mediocre, at best?
Which country do you mean?
posted by chuckdarwin at 5:10 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Which country do you mean?
posted by chuckdarwin at 5:10 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Tony Blair's a brilliant Labourite.
Brilliant enough to make Britain nostalgic for Margaret Thatcher.
And he makes such a cute poodle.
posted by orthogonality at 5:16 AM on May 10, 2007
Brilliant enough to make Britain nostalgic for Margaret Thatcher.
And he makes such a cute poodle.
posted by orthogonality at 5:16 AM on May 10, 2007
XQUZYPHYR writes "It's amazing how anyone connected to Bush, even across oceans, is destroyed by association."
Still waiting for the implosions of Paul Martin and John Howard.
posted by orthogonality at 5:18 AM on May 10, 2007
Still waiting for the implosions of Paul Martin and John Howard.
posted by orthogonality at 5:18 AM on May 10, 2007
The Happiest Man in Britain - shoot me, it's a self link.
posted by quarsan at 5:20 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by quarsan at 5:20 AM on May 10, 2007
Harold Wilson did it best: one day operating normally with an unshakable grip on power: the next, resigned and gone.
Blair was the first Labour leader to provide a programme with no ideological content at all, just managerialism and modernisation. The irony is that his government was rubbish at management, and made a hash of most of its modernisation projects. Maybe good managers need some inspiring ideals after all.
posted by Phanx at 5:22 AM on May 10, 2007
Blair was the first Labour leader to provide a programme with no ideological content at all, just managerialism and modernisation. The irony is that his government was rubbish at management, and made a hash of most of its modernisation projects. Maybe good managers need some inspiring ideals after all.
posted by Phanx at 5:22 AM on May 10, 2007
Brilliant enough to make Britain nostalgic for Margaret Thatcher.
Er, no.
posted by salmacis at 5:40 AM on May 10, 2007
Er, no.
posted by salmacis at 5:40 AM on May 10, 2007
Brilliant enough to make Britain nostalgic for Margaret Thatcher.
Blair maybe unpopular now, but I do not believe that anyone who used to hate Maggie is now thinking back to the good old Thatcher era!
I have lived in Wales for 10 years, and the hatred towards Thatcher is still very deep and very personal. She really screwed over this beautiful country.
As for Blair, of course you can talk for ages about all the bad things, but one of the things I am truly grateful for is the amount of Equality Legislation that came in under his watch. I now have the right not to be sacked from my job because of my sexuality, can get "married", adopt, have the rights to good and services to name but a few.
posted by informity at 6:11 AM on May 10, 2007 [3 favorites]
Blair maybe unpopular now, but I do not believe that anyone who used to hate Maggie is now thinking back to the good old Thatcher era!
I have lived in Wales for 10 years, and the hatred towards Thatcher is still very deep and very personal. She really screwed over this beautiful country.
As for Blair, of course you can talk for ages about all the bad things, but one of the things I am truly grateful for is the amount of Equality Legislation that came in under his watch. I now have the right not to be sacked from my job because of my sexuality, can get "married", adopt, have the rights to good and services to name but a few.
posted by informity at 6:11 AM on May 10, 2007 [3 favorites]
Iraq is Tony Blair's regrettable blowjob.
That's incredibly charitable, XQUZYPHYR. Yesterday's bout with Ann Althouse must have taken some of the wind out of your sails.
Sod off Tony. Here's hoping the door of No. 10 hits you in the ass on your way out.
posted by three blind mice at 6:12 AM on May 10, 2007
That's incredibly charitable, XQUZYPHYR. Yesterday's bout with Ann Althouse must have taken some of the wind out of your sails.
Sod off Tony. Here's hoping the door of No. 10 hits you in the ass on your way out.
posted by three blind mice at 6:12 AM on May 10, 2007
Are their heads of states of any countries willing to admit that they're mediocre, at best?
This is the first time I've heard anyone refer to Britain that way. I think his point was that Britain is the greatest country on Earth, I made it that way, and you're all a bunch of ungrateful fucktards.
posted by cillit bang at 6:27 AM on May 10, 2007
This is the first time I've heard anyone refer to Britain that way. I think his point was that Britain is the greatest country on Earth, I made it that way, and you're all a bunch of ungrateful fucktards.
posted by cillit bang at 6:27 AM on May 10, 2007
Can't we make Tony a write-in candidate in the next Iraqi elections?
posted by quarsan at 6:39 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by quarsan at 6:39 AM on May 10, 2007
...but said he had been very lucky to lead "the greatest nation on earth".
No, wrong.
posted by brownpau at 6:41 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
No, wrong.
posted by brownpau at 6:41 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Each morning I tell my [medicine] cabinet I'm going to quit. So far it hasn't taken me up on it.
posted by Pollomacho at 6:49 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Pollomacho at 6:49 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Vote Saxon
posted by Freon at 7:04 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Freon at 7:04 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Well, I, for one, will be supporing Norsefire in the next round of elections.
posted by Avenger at 7:05 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by Avenger at 7:05 AM on May 10, 2007
""I decided we should stand shoulder to shoulder with our oldest ally, and I did so out of belief," he said of his decision to support America's invasion of Iraq.
"I may have been wrong. That's your call.""
Dear Tony...
posted by Mr Bismarck at 7:13 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
"I may have been wrong. That's your call.""
Dear Tony...
posted by Mr Bismarck at 7:13 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Brilliant enough to make Britain nostalgic for Margaret Thatcher.
You have got to be kidding. Blair is unpopular, but he is a GOD compared to Thatcher.
You have no idea how absolutely fucking hated that woman is in some parts of Britain. If she ever set foot in the South Wales Valleys, I swear there would be mobs of people eagerly waiting to beat her to death. And that's 20 years on.
posted by afx237vi at 7:38 AM on May 10, 2007
You have got to be kidding. Blair is unpopular, but he is a GOD compared to Thatcher.
You have no idea how absolutely fucking hated that woman is in some parts of Britain. If she ever set foot in the South Wales Valleys, I swear there would be mobs of people eagerly waiting to beat her to death. And that's 20 years on.
posted by afx237vi at 7:38 AM on May 10, 2007
Embarassment? Regrettable blowjob?
Clearly, I need to suck on a mass-murderer scale, so I can be given such cute attributions.
posted by dreamsign at 7:43 AM on May 10, 2007
Clearly, I need to suck on a mass-murderer scale, so I can be given such cute attributions.
posted by dreamsign at 7:43 AM on May 10, 2007
afx237vi said You have no idea how absolutely fucking hated that woman is in some parts of Britain. If she ever set foot in the South Wales Valleys, I swear there would be mobs of people eagerly waiting to beat her to death. And that's 20 years on.
I know how hated she is, and I'm in the Midlands. People here wouldn't piss on her if she were on fire... they'd fan the flames.
By all accounts, she nearly destroyed this country.
*ahem*
Here's an analysis of Tony's decade in charge.
posted by chuckdarwin at 7:56 AM on May 10, 2007
I know how hated she is, and I'm in the Midlands. People here wouldn't piss on her if she were on fire... they'd fan the flames.
By all accounts, she nearly destroyed this country.
*ahem*
Here's an analysis of Tony's decade in charge.
posted by chuckdarwin at 7:56 AM on May 10, 2007
He acknowledged his government had not always lived up to high expectations but said he had been very lucky to lead "the greatest nation on earth".
then why do so many scots and welsh want out?
posted by pyramid termite at 8:01 AM on May 10, 2007
then why do so many scots and welsh want out?
posted by pyramid termite at 8:01 AM on May 10, 2007
Why is every country the greatest nation on earth?
Oh England. Wake me when you're able to stand up to your tax-money devouring queen and we'll talk about letting you into the league of nations who might have a clue. Any country that still bends over for noble blood, well, the less said the better.
posted by damn dirty ape at 8:06 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Oh England. Wake me when you're able to stand up to your tax-money devouring queen and we'll talk about letting you into the league of nations who might have a clue. Any country that still bends over for noble blood, well, the less said the better.
posted by damn dirty ape at 8:06 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Ok, point taken, XQUZYPHYR. And you make me actually want to hunt down those tapes.
But no logical purpose? It was all logic and no heart on the Bush's part. Not sure what Blair thought to gain but I suspect it was cold, bloody logic, also. See
Yeah, we'll remember. And they'll have 16 permanent bases in Iraq. Somehow I don't count that as a win.
posted by dreamsign at 8:15 AM on May 10, 2007
But no logical purpose? It was all logic and no heart on the Bush's part. Not sure what Blair thought to gain but I suspect it was cold, bloody logic, also. See
Yeah, we'll remember. And they'll have 16 permanent bases in Iraq. Somehow I don't count that as a win.
posted by dreamsign at 8:15 AM on May 10, 2007
I wish I could find a Blair speech I heard on NPR circa 2003, where he addressed the poodle accusation directly. He was funny and articulate and I was liking him very much, even though I disagreed, and I remember thinking -- why can't we have a president who can speak like that? Our current president can't open his mouth without embarrassing us all, of course, but even past presidents have been so locked in to the anti-intellectual, just-folks, fake sincerity thing we in America seem to prize, that no one since Kennedy has even tried for eloquence.
Say what you will about the English, they certainly speak English well.
posted by Methylviolet at 8:16 AM on May 10, 2007
Say what you will about the English, they certainly speak English well.
posted by Methylviolet at 8:16 AM on May 10, 2007
Wake me when you're able to stand up to your tax-money devouring queen ...
Yeah, George Washington, you wake me up when your tax-money devouring President has given you your Habeas Corpus back.
posted by Phanx at 8:30 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Yeah, George Washington, you wake me up when your tax-money devouring President has given you your Habeas Corpus back.
posted by Phanx at 8:30 AM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Yeah, damn dirty ape, I find the 62p per person per year the monarchy costs to be a real hardship.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 8:47 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by Aloysius Bear at 8:47 AM on May 10, 2007
'Wake me when you're able to stand up to your tax-money devouring queen and we'll talk about letting you into the league of nations who might have a clue. Any country that still bends over for noble blood, well, the less said the better.'
The reason the country 'still bends over for noble blood' is that most of the population chooses to. I think they shouldn't, I do not, and noone's going to come knocking on my door in the middle of the night for saying so.
I struggle to see what the problem is except that a lot of people in my country have some funny ideas when it comes to politics. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems to happen in other countries too.
posted by edd at 8:53 AM on May 10, 2007
The reason the country 'still bends over for noble blood' is that most of the population chooses to. I think they shouldn't, I do not, and noone's going to come knocking on my door in the middle of the night for saying so.
I struggle to see what the problem is except that a lot of people in my country have some funny ideas when it comes to politics. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems to happen in other countries too.
posted by edd at 8:53 AM on May 10, 2007
Well thanks for bringing us the news, plep, but don't be such a stranger - your posts are missed!
posted by madamjujujive at 8:53 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by madamjujujive at 8:53 AM on May 10, 2007
I remember how exciting Blair was when he first became Prime Minister. Seeing the movie The Queen this winter brought it all back. Guy's a damn good politician. Too bad he had to piss it all away on Iraq.
posted by Kattullus at 9:04 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by Kattullus at 9:04 AM on May 10, 2007
Let me rephrase that.
Fuck Blair for being responsible for the giant fucking goddamn clusterfuck of a massacre that is the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
posted by Kattullus at 9:05 AM on May 10, 2007
Fuck Blair for being responsible for the giant fucking goddamn clusterfuck of a massacre that is the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
posted by Kattullus at 9:05 AM on May 10, 2007
Too bad. He was so precious in The Queen.
posted by miss lynnster at 9:22 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by miss lynnster at 9:22 AM on May 10, 2007
Have you folks seen the Channel 4 production The Trial of Tony Blair?
It is a very interesting "what if?" scenario. Here is a sample of it on YouTube.
posted by dougzilla at 9:30 AM on May 10, 2007
It is a very interesting "what if?" scenario. Here is a sample of it on YouTube.
posted by dougzilla at 9:30 AM on May 10, 2007
Boy is this place going to be ugly when Thatcher finally dies...
posted by hoverboards don't work on water at 9:37 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by hoverboards don't work on water at 9:37 AM on May 10, 2007
Yeah, damn dirty ape, I find the 62p per person per year the monarchy costs to be a real hardship.
Do you live in the UK now?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:42 AM on May 10, 2007
Do you live in the UK now?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:42 AM on May 10, 2007
the poodle says "toodles!" ; >
So, is Brown any good? Will he pull you out of Iraq?
posted by amberglow at 9:45 AM on May 10, 2007
So, is Brown any good? Will he pull you out of Iraq?
posted by amberglow at 9:45 AM on May 10, 2007
Boy is this place going to be ugly when Thatcher finally dies...
Naw. I bet you could get hundreds of "."s for her even before she goes. Oh wait...
posted by dreamsign at 9:52 AM on May 10, 2007
Naw. I bet you could get hundreds of "."s for her even before she goes. Oh wait...
posted by dreamsign at 9:52 AM on May 10, 2007
BP: Do you live in the UK now?
"Now"? As opposed to when? Yes, I do, and always have.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 9:54 AM on May 10, 2007
"Now"? As opposed to when? Yes, I do, and always have.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 9:54 AM on May 10, 2007
If you want to see what Thatcher's thread will look like, find the Reagan thread.
posted by amberglow at 10:05 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by amberglow at 10:05 AM on May 10, 2007
hoverboards, the thought of the Thatcher mefi thread could be used to terrify small children.
amberglow, Brown may well be less pro-Bush than Blair, but I can't see him doing anything especially radical with regard to Iraq. As for everything else, we'll just have to wait and see. He may be marginally less "New Labour" than Blair on social issues, but economically he's no different from Blair.
Blazecock Pileon: Er, my last comment sounded a bit arsey. I should have just said 'Yes'.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 10:09 AM on May 10, 2007
amberglow, Brown may well be less pro-Bush than Blair, but I can't see him doing anything especially radical with regard to Iraq. As for everything else, we'll just have to wait and see. He may be marginally less "New Labour" than Blair on social issues, but economically he's no different from Blair.
Blazecock Pileon: Er, my last comment sounded a bit arsey. I should have just said 'Yes'.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 10:09 AM on May 10, 2007
If he's no different on Iraq, how can he possibly win in the next election? Blair ignored the people about Iraq, and if Brown does the same...
posted by amberglow at 11:31 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by amberglow at 11:31 AM on May 10, 2007
I recall a scene in BBC's "Coupling" when two of the characters (i forget their names) started arguing over Whigs and Tories and whether or not Thatcher was better than Blair. It was hilarious from my perspective cuz it sounded just like arguments here in the states between liberal and conservative thinkers. X is right Y is wrong or vice versa.
posted by ZachsMind at 11:37 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by ZachsMind at 11:37 AM on May 10, 2007
A reminder about Blair and us: ... he was more significant in selling the Iraq War in the United States than is commonly recognized. Lots and lots of Democrats who would never in a million years have taken George W. Bush's word for it that there was this huge Iraqi WMD threat and a reasonable American military plan to take it out, were perfectly prepared to be convinced by the fact that Blair, ...
posted by amberglow at 11:39 AM on May 10, 2007
posted by amberglow at 11:39 AM on May 10, 2007
If he's no different on Iraq, how can he possibly win in the next election? Blair ignored the people about Iraq, and if Brown does the same...
If Brown does the same... he may well win the next election anyway. The Tories supported the war, and can't (and won't) take a "troops-out-now" stance, and the Lib Dems will never come close to winning. So although Iraq is a handicap for Brown, it isn't by itself going to stop him from winning the next election. Remember, Blair won the general election in 2005, two years after taking us into Iraq.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 11:57 AM on May 10, 2007
If Brown does the same... he may well win the next election anyway. The Tories supported the war, and can't (and won't) take a "troops-out-now" stance, and the Lib Dems will never come close to winning. So although Iraq is a handicap for Brown, it isn't by itself going to stop him from winning the next election. Remember, Blair won the general election in 2005, two years after taking us into Iraq.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 11:57 AM on May 10, 2007
ok. good luck tho. I hear that Cameron is actually popular there.
posted by amberglow at 12:09 PM on May 10, 2007
posted by amberglow at 12:09 PM on May 10, 2007
orthogonality wrote:
Still waiting for the implosions of Paul Martin and John Howard.
Uhhh, you realise Paul Martin failed to win a majority in a single election and resigned in failure a year ago, right?
posted by Marquis at 12:09 PM on May 10, 2007
Still waiting for the implosions of Paul Martin and John Howard.
Uhhh, you realise Paul Martin failed to win a majority in a single election and resigned in failure a year ago, right?
posted by Marquis at 12:09 PM on May 10, 2007
Australia remains as far-right as ever though. Weird that it has such a liberal image abroad.
posted by Artw at 12:32 PM on May 10, 2007
posted by Artw at 12:32 PM on May 10, 2007
I really hated the bit when he declared that Britain is “the greatest nation on earth.” This struck me as a very unBritish statement. My faith in my fellow countrymen was, however, restored by the fact that this declaration was greeted with lukewarm applause, rather than whoops and standing ovations.
Further discussion at Crooked Timber.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 1:59 PM on May 10, 2007
Further discussion at Crooked Timber.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 1:59 PM on May 10, 2007
I wonder. If he had actually stood up against the false pretences the US was using to drag 'allies' into the 'war on terror', would we now be comparing him to churchill rather than thatcher? Would he even have had to step down?
It's wrong to claim the man didn't do any good. Informity makes some perspicacious points. But, according to the laws of narrative, there's always a defining moment. And Blair, ultimately, fucked his up.
Better luck next life, dude.
posted by Sparx at 2:25 PM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
It's wrong to claim the man didn't do any good. Informity makes some perspicacious points. But, according to the laws of narrative, there's always a defining moment. And Blair, ultimately, fucked his up.
Better luck next life, dude.
posted by Sparx at 2:25 PM on May 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
The 'greatest nation' bit is possibly a subtle dig at Thatcher, who when she lost the PM job took the first opportunity to announce that she considered the USA the best country in the world, leaving her loyal supporter with a taste of sour grapes, IIRC.
posted by Phanx at 2:48 PM on May 10, 2007
posted by Phanx at 2:48 PM on May 10, 2007
I hope some country, somewhere, wherever he's visiting, has the bottle to arrest him and put him on trial for war crimes. It'll never happen, but it damn well should.
posted by kaemaril at 5:06 PM on May 10, 2007
posted by kaemaril at 5:06 PM on May 10, 2007
From a limited perspective on the other side of the world, Tony Blair looked pretty awesome, apart from that Iraq thing. He was great for your economy and successfully steered Labor smack into the middle of politics.
Would have rather preferred ten years with him that the time we've had with the gold-toothed rodent.
posted by wilful at 8:20 PM on May 10, 2007
Would have rather preferred ten years with him that the time we've had with the gold-toothed rodent.
posted by wilful at 8:20 PM on May 10, 2007
Yeah, damn dirty ape, I find the 62p per person per year the monarchy costs to be a real hardship.
So do I. I suggest pay per view executions to recoup the costs.
posted by vbfg at 4:45 AM on May 11, 2007
So do I. I suggest pay per view executions to recoup the costs.
posted by vbfg at 4:45 AM on May 11, 2007
I hear that Cameron is actually popular there.
Amongst the financial backers of pay per view executions, yes.
posted by vbfg at 4:50 AM on May 11, 2007
Amongst the financial backers of pay per view executions, yes.
posted by vbfg at 4:50 AM on May 11, 2007
Watch out--young voters who don't remember the Thatcher days will go Cameron. It happens here every 20 years (Nixon, Reagan, Bush).
posted by amberglow at 12:30 PM on May 11, 2007
posted by amberglow at 12:30 PM on May 11, 2007
Maybe we won't get the stupid ID card scheme after all.
If that's the case it's one less reason to hate Labour.
Interestingly they seem to be making a lot of concillatory noises about how maybe they were wrong over Iraq as well.
posted by Artw at 2:23 PM on May 11, 2007
If that's the case it's one less reason to hate Labour.
Interestingly they seem to be making a lot of concillatory noises about how maybe they were wrong over Iraq as well.
posted by Artw at 2:23 PM on May 11, 2007
Boy is this place going to be ugly when Thatcher finally dies...
"And when they finally / put you in the ground / I'll stand on your grave / and tramp the dirt down."
Kinda like that, I expect.
posted by chuq at 4:03 PM on May 11, 2007
"And when they finally / put you in the ground / I'll stand on your grave / and tramp the dirt down."
Kinda like that, I expect.
posted by chuq at 4:03 PM on May 11, 2007
"Two found guilty over Bush-Blair memo leak"
Without clicking on the link, I'm gonna guess the two found guilty are Bush and Blair. What do I win?
posted by ZachsMind at 4:51 PM on May 11, 2007
Without clicking on the link, I'm gonna guess the two found guilty are Bush and Blair. What do I win?
posted by ZachsMind at 4:51 PM on May 11, 2007
This is good, if true: Gordon Brown vowed yesterday to take on President George W Bush and the Americans over foreign policy as he spelt out plans to break from Tony Blair's approach to the "war on terror". ...
posted by amberglow at 7:30 PM on May 11, 2007
posted by amberglow at 7:30 PM on May 11, 2007
...Blair was exactly what George W. Bush needed to sell his fraudulent and immoral war in Iraq to the American public: a seemingly reasonable and non-partisan stamp of international approval (after all, he'd been bosom buddies with Bill Clinton, hadn't he?). Blair enabled the Bush myth that the invasion of Iraq was a coalition effort, that it wasn't just Mongolia, Moldova, Singapore, Poland, and Tonga making up the Coalition of the Willing to Go Along. It was Britain. Great Britain.
More than being just Bush and Cheney's cheery wingman, Blair was one of their top salesmen, pitching sexed up dossiers, Nigeran yellowcake, and the specter of chemical weapons "ready within 45 minutes" raining down on Europe. ...
posted by amberglow at 8:03 PM on May 11, 2007
More than being just Bush and Cheney's cheery wingman, Blair was one of their top salesmen, pitching sexed up dossiers, Nigeran yellowcake, and the specter of chemical weapons "ready within 45 minutes" raining down on Europe. ...
posted by amberglow at 8:03 PM on May 11, 2007
This is a great stunt for Cameron--i wonder if it works on people?
posted by amberglow at 2:58 PM on May 13, 2007
posted by amberglow at 2:58 PM on May 13, 2007
A very public secret: The Old Bailey's decision to impose reporting restrictions on the Blair-Bush memo case is an unprecedented attempt to hush up something said in the open.
posted by homunculus at 11:50 PM on May 14, 2007
posted by homunculus at 11:50 PM on May 14, 2007
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