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	<title>Comments on: People say that you&apos;ll die / faster than without water</title>
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	<description>Comments on MetaFilter post People say that you&apos;ll die / faster than without water</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 05:01:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>People say that you&apos;ll die / faster than without water</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep&quot;&gt;No one really&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.02/bigquestions.html?pg=3#sleep&quot;&gt;knows&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npi.ucla.edu/sleepresearch/sciam2003/sciamsleep.pdf&quot;&gt;exactly why we need so much sleep&lt;/a&gt;, but &lt;a href=http://www.npi.ucla.edu/sleepresearch/remsleep.pdf&gt;it seems &lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=133&gt;obvious&lt;/a&gt; that &lt;a href=&quot;http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web3/Ledoux.html&quot;&gt;many of us&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070222/news_lz1e22mednick.html&quot;&gt;aren&apos;t getting enough&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harvardmagazine.com/on-line/070587.html&quot;&gt;Tu veux coucher avec moi?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2003076762_susannielsen22.html&quot;&gt;I&apos;m &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tired.com&quot;&gt;bushed. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 05:01:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chuckdarwin</dc:creator>		<category>sleep</category>		<category>hypnagogia</category>		<category>REM</category>		<category>dreams</category>		<category>science</category>		<category>health</category>
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		<title>By: chuckdarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691119</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=sleep&amp;vs=www.metafilter.com&quot;&gt;Previously&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 05:01:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: three blind mice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691121</link>	
		<description>I like the suggestion that sleep may be used by the brain &lt;a href=&quot;http://discovermagazine.com/2006/oct/why-we-sleep&quot;&gt;to forget stuff. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 05:11:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hermitosis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691138</link>	
		<description>I think it&apos;s good to practice being unconscious a lot so that we&apos;ll be really great at it when we die.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 05:49:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Malor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691139</link>	
		<description>I think we&apos;re all probably equally good at that, hermitosis.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 05:49:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nasreddin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691146</link>	
		<description>I think it should be &quot;Veux-tu coucher avec moi?&quot;

Sorry, I&apos;m cranky, not enough sleep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 06:05:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chlorus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691152</link>	
		<description>Nice Arcade Fire reference.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 06:18:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dreamsign</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691157</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think it should be &quot;Veux-tu coucher avec moi?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Or &quot;Est-ce que tu veux coucher avec moi?&quot;

Ditto on the sleep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 06:24:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tarheelcoxn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691171</link>	
		<description>Thanks for the reminder. Good post. Wish I could go back to bed now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 06:38:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chuckdarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691175</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voulez-vous_coucher_avec_moi_%3F&quot;&gt;I got the French from a wiki page.&lt;/a&gt; That was probably my first mistake.

Sadly six years of French in HS/college did little to actually teach me French.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 06:43:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691187</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Huh? Oh, wait... what?&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 06:59:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kozad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691193</link>	
		<description>Shakespeare said it best, through the soon to be sleep-deprived Macbeth:

&quot;Sleep that knits up the raveled sleeve of care,
The death of each day&apos;s lfe, sore labor&apos;s bath,
Balm of hurt minds, great nature&apos;s second course,
Chief nourisher in life&apos;s feast.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 07:05:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gungho</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691213</link>	
		<description>&quot;Eyes in the dark. One moon circles.&quot;  I can&apos;t sleep, that&apos;s all I know...&quot;Eyes in the dark. One moon circles.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 07:29:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The corpse in the library</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691260</link>	
		<description>My baby slept through the night for the first time last night (happy Mothers&apos; Day!). I got a solid six hours of uninterrupted sleep -- by far the best sleep I&apos;ve had in over a year. That&apos;s right, I&apos;m bragging about how much I slept last night. Uh-huh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 08:19:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TypographicalError</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691264</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think it should be &quot;Veux-tu coucher avec moi?&quot;

Or &quot;Est-ce que tu veux coucher avec moi?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

These are both correct, but saying &quot;Tu veux coucher avec moi?&quot; with the proper inflection is no more confusing to Jacques Doe than saying, &quot;You&apos;re going to sleep with me?&quot; would be to John Doe.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 08:22:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TypographicalError</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691265</link>	
		<description>Or, rather, &quot;You want to sleep with me?&quot;

&lt;small&gt;Too early. grumblegrumble&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 08:23:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jmd82</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691273</link>	
		<description>We sleep approximately 1/3 of our lives.  Therefore, I motion that 1/3 of MeFi should now be devoted to talkiNG ABOUT SLEep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 08:30:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: altolinguistic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691291</link>	
		<description>your French is fine - that&apos;s a standard question formation.

Sleep is nice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 08:43:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: parallax7d</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691312</link>	
		<description>Our brains are the most complex computational devices in the world, but they have worse uptime figures than Windows ME.  It&apos;s probably good that they do all their indexing during downtime, imagine how stupider we would be if we indexed in realtime?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 08:59:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jefgodesky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691314</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/cuius/idle/evolution/index.html&quot;&gt;Idle Theory&lt;/a&gt;, survival of the idlest.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 08:59:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonp72</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691321</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Tu veux coucher avec moi?&lt;/em&gt;

Gitcha gitcha ya-ya mama.  Gitcha gitcha ya-ya here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 09:06:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iamck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691372</link>	
		<description>As a finely unemployed citizen, I just want to let you all know I just slept around 14 hours.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 10:13:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: parallax7d</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691380</link>	
		<description>As a finely unemployed citizen, I just want to suggest popping a caffeine pill when your alarm goes off.  Getting up at the same time each day is a great habit to have.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 10:26:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sponge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691404</link>	
		<description>without amphetamines, no one has ever stated awake for more than &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Gardner_%28record_holder%29&quot;&gt;11 days&lt;/a&gt;. 

another &lt;a href=&quot;http://abc.net.au/science/sleep/default.htm&quot;&gt;page&lt;/a&gt; claims its 18 days, but this is unsubstantiated.

its funny that humans have such a fundamental, and overlooked, limitation such as the need for sleep</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 10:50:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: damn dirty ape</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691408</link>	
		<description>Didnt someone write about how sleep may be the default state for animals and wakefulness is an aberration we need to do such things as find shelter, eat, etc?  I believe so.  I love this idea because now we can honestly ask &quot;How many hours of wakefulness do I need?&quot; as opposed to &apos;How many hours of sleep do I need?&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 10:56:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: teece</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691418</link>	
		<description>I recently read a research press release about &quot;big picture&quot; learning (maybe even linked up there: nope, don&apos;t see it). The gist was that details could be learned in a day, but connections and big picture stuff were better understood after studying the details and parts, and sleeping on it.

I&apos;ve been trying this out over the last couple weeks, as I&apos;m studying a lot. And it really works. I understand how all of the concepts I&apos;m learning link together and relate, the &lt;i&gt;next sleep cycle&lt;/i&gt; after I really grokked the smaller-scale concept.

It&apos;s a fascinating thing, this sleep.

Oh, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070420104732.htm&quot;&gt;here is the link.&lt;/a&gt; I knew those web clippings in DevonNote would come in handy at some point.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 11:07:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691424</link>	
		<description>Fortunately, my cat understands the need for sleep.

Well, &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt;, anyway. In the morning he understands the need for breakfast.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 11:15:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chuckdarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691512</link>	
		<description>Excellent link, teece.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 12:27:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Haruspex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691712</link>	
		<description>&quot;This shaking keeps me steady. I should know.
What falls away is always. And is near.
I wake to sleep, and take my waking slow.
I learn by going where I have to go.&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gawow.com/roethke/poems/104.html&quot; title=&quot;Ted, of course.&quot;&gt;*&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 15:33:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yoHighness</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61139/People-say-that-youll-die-faster-than-without-water#1691913</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teece&lt;/strong&gt;: Same here, much profiting from similar paper I read (different study making people learn stuff, the people who got enough sleep could remember more next day) ... 

Sorry, no Notes app, lost bookmarks, no link. 
The DevonNotes website, behind a link called &quot;You use a Windows PC but you want to run our applications?&quot; is telling me I ought to buy a Mac and Windows emulator ---

&lt;small&gt;By the way, anybody else find that seriously packed  e.g. academic, philosophical, .. type writing gives  you kind of &quot;decompressing data...&quot; type power naps? (Yeah... No, I&apos;m not talking about Escapist naps...Sheesh.)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 19:32:49 -0800</pubDate>
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