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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 6129</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:32:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 6129</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nandotimes.com/noframes/story/0,2107,500458879-500698375-503787232-0,00.html"&gt;In 2000, 40% of chickens sent to stores from seven plants was contaminated.&lt;/a&gt; And this is just the one we&apos;ve heard about. Between stories like this and the animal diseases in Europe, meat is looking less and less appetizing. It looks like what the food industry gets away with may finally be too outrageous to be ignored. Not to mention whether non-meat foods are processed with any more attention to sanitation than meats. Of course if they can get away with cutting costs this way, they will.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 02:15:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aflakete</dc:creator>		<category>chickens</category>		<category>organic</category>		<category>food</category>		<category>eating</category>		<category>safety</category>		<category>disease</category>
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		<title>By: Markb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#54825</link>	
		<description>Cheap food will, by default be produced cheaply.  The consumer shops where their food is cheapest, the retailers squeeze the producers to cut costs, the producers develop ever more intensive farming and processing practices.....the result?  Well, the results are difficult to predict but you can bet they&apos;re not likely to be happy healthy animals giving tasty, healthy meat.
But hey, it&apos;s cheap meat we want and lots of it.  So thats OK.</description>
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		<title>By: auntbunny</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#54831</link>	
		<description>pus, sores, scabs... lovely. 

So chicken soup for a cold is really more like hair of the dog?

Hooters, anyone?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:47:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: methylsalicylate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#54840</link>	
		<description>I read an interesting book a while back, &lt;i&gt;Spoiled&lt;/i&gt;, by Nichols Fox. She details quite a few of the incidents of widespread food contamination, and more than a few are vegetable-related, as well.
Which is not to let meat producers off the hook. But it does go back to what MarkB said. If we demand cheap, out-of-season food available at all times, we will pay the price. Whether it&apos;s nvCJD or hepatitis...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 06:17:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>methylsalicylate</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bondcliff</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#54846</link>	
		<description>There is a simple solution to this problem that they don&apos;t always let you in on when they do those &quot;How safe is the meat you buy?&quot; reports on the evening news.

Don&apos;t eat your chicken raw.  Cook it.  Problem solved.

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 06:27:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bondcliff</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: holgate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#55003</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Don&apos;t eat your chicken raw. Cook it. Problem solved.&lt;/i&gt;

The amount of cooking to make some factory-farmed chicken edible would most likely make it indigestible.

Same results from a &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1192000/1192827.stm&quot;&gt;British survey.&lt;/a&gt;

The real solution: treat chicken as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.volaille.aoc.bresse.com/&quot;&gt;luxury meat &lt;/a&gt; it was to your parents&apos; generation, and stick to (non-GM) tofu for generic protein.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:53:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bondcliff</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#55013</link>	
		<description>Sorry, I prefer to have my protein come with flavor.

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:06:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bondcliff</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cCranium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#55016</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s not the tastelessness of tofu that&apos;s the problem - it&apos;s pretty simple to add flavour to tofu.  It&apos;s the texture.  I&apos;ve yet to eat tofu without knowing that I&apos;m eating tofu, and that&apos;s a problem for me.  I just don&apos;t like the way it feels.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:16:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bondcliff</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#55017</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t eat anything unless it cries out in pain when I kill it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:19:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: muta</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#55032</link>	
		<description>But you can eat vegetables while they&apos;re still alive, causing, no doubt, intense if inaudible pain.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:51:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: beth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#55035</link>	
		<description>One o these days I need to start ensuring that all meat I eat is free-range and happy.

Partly this is because I&apos;ve seen how striking the difference is between chicken-factory chickens and regular ones. 

Chicken-plant chickens are genetically so warped in the direction of fast huge meat growth that they can&apos;t walk after a certain age. 

I saw this at a farm I worked at a few years ago - It&apos;s pretty sad, seeing them sitting there, in a nice little pen, being pecked to death by the regular chickens (smaller, but able to live a reasonably high-quality life, for a chicken).

If I hadn&apos;t seen it myself, I might not have believed it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:54:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peterme</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#55041</link>	
		<description>For those interested in the subject of the state of mass meat processing, the book &lt;i&gt;Fast Food Nation&lt;i&gt; is a good (and disturbing) place to start.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:02:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Avogadro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#55042</link>	
		<description>cC, try drying off your tofu with a paper towel then pan-frying it until it&apos;s a nice, golden brown.

&lt;small&gt;Oh God, I just posted a cooking tip to MeFi... must lay low for a while...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:02:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cCranium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6129/#55079</link>	
		<description>&lt;/i&gt; especially after forgetting to close the tag!
&lt;/i&gt;  :-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 13:06:04 -0800</pubDate>
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