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	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:09:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 6187</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.ebow.com/"&gt;E-Bow&lt;/a&gt; A nifty electric guitar effect that replaces the pick.  Ignore the visuals. Instead, give it a &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.ebow.com/24hr.htm&quot;&gt;listen&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:49:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>plinth</dc:creator>		<category>EBow</category>		<category>guitar</category>		<category>music</category>
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		<title>By: lileks</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55612</link>	
		<description>Now that brings back memories: I had an ebow about 20 years ago. Thought it would turn me into Robert Fripp. I liked it, but it was difficult to master; it felt like trying to play &quot;Chopsticks&quot; with a Theramin.</description>
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		<title>By: hijinx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55613</link>	
		<description>Ah, don&apos;t forget R.E.M.&apos;s song, &lt;a href=&quot;http://digilander.iol.it/cek/ebow.txt&quot;&gt;&quot;E-bow The Letter&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:16:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cfj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55617</link>	
		<description>as lileks mentioned, the E-bow has been around for decades. it&apos;s a real beeyatch to learn -- takes a very steady hand to do it right. i have one (and got pretty good with it at one time) but never use it; it&apos;s in the closet along with my Mutron Bi-Phase and MXR Envelope Follower. Cool sounds, limited usefulness.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:32:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: holgate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55626</link>	
		<description>Guitar wonktastic. 

In related news, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://fringedigital.com/brook/instrumentation/infinite.shtml&quot;&gt;Brook Infinite Guitar&lt;/a&gt; used by The Edge in &quot;With Or Without You&quot; was basically an attempt to implement the Ebow effect within the pickup itself. (After all, the Ebow&apos;s basically an inverted pickup -- the dynamo to the pickup&apos;s motor -- turning electromagnetic energy into kinetic energy.)

I&apos;d rather stick with my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jimdunlop.com/electronics/wahs.html&quot;&gt;Cry Baby&lt;/a&gt;, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:49:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gimli</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55627</link>	
		<description>Probably the most noted use of the E-bow was by the Scottish band &lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=Bpq91802280pp&quot;&gt;Big Country&lt;/a&gt;. They were big back in the 80&apos;s, when anthemic rock (U2, The Alarm) was the rage. They used it for a bagpipe-ish sound.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:51:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: captainfez</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55660</link>	
		<description>You know, I still can&apos;t get mine to make my guitar sound like the cello-toned beast that appears on the tape that comes with the Ebow. They&apos;re still interesting, but I find &apos;em a little too difficult for rawk-action shenanigans. But then, I&apos;m more basic chord chunk than frippertronics, meself.

Actually, a much more interesting doohickey for guitarists is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thirdhandcapo.com/&quot;&gt;Third Hand Capo&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s a normal capo, except it selectively mutes strings. It can do the equivalent of fretting a chord, leaving you free to noodle around wankily. (If you&apos;re me, that is.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:52:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: afro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55665</link>	
		<description>i guess it all depends on the type of music you make. i saw archer prewitt of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thrilljockey.com/bandpage.html?artistnum=31&quot;&gt;the sea and cake&lt;/a&gt; use one last week and it was a beautiful thing... hey cfj, wanna get rid of those closet clutterers?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:12:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thirteen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55678</link>	
		<description>Big Black made excellect use of the E-bow as well. Anybody have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://pages.prodigy.net/chuckcollins/percolator.html&quot;&gt;Harmonic Percolator&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:38:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55679</link>	
		<description>Archer Prewitt is a genius! You all should check out his solo records.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:52:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gimli</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55682</link>	
		<description>Effects just keep getting better and cheaper. I had read some reviews of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digitech.com/products/productpgs/rp200.htm&quot;&gt;DigiTech RP200&lt;/a&gt;, and could not believe that it did what they claimed for less than $200. So a month or so ago I tried one out and was completely blown away. By then the price was down to $140 and they couldn&apos;t keep them on the shelves, so I got it. It&apos;s great, especially if you&apos;re on a tight budget. There are better products out there, but I&apos;ve never seen anything close to this much bang for the buck. </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:59:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jennyb</title>
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		<description>&quot;Archer Prewitt is a genius! You all should check out his solo records.&quot;

Yes he is and yes you should.

Also, Big Country was great. Which statement may or may not have completely discredited my Archer Prewitt suggestion.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:00:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gimli</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55694</link>	
		<description>Along with Albini, my favorite effects maniacs include Helios Creed, Paul Leary,  Andy Gill, and Adrian Belew (who has been known to use a vibrator to get an E-bowlike effect.) </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:25:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cfj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55825</link>	
		<description>i used to own a Sears Silvertone electric geetar (the kind with the amplifier built into the case) that would put an E-bow to shame in a controlled feedback contest. any note would sustain endlessly. the thing was possessed. i had to cut off its headstock and and drive a stake through the bridge pickup to make it stop.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:50:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: toddshot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55953</link>	
		<description>I do believe John Flansburgh of They Might Be Giants used an E-Bow in the making of the &apos;92 album Apollo 18. Specifically on the track The Statue Got Me High.

Not earth-shattering, but a) it allows me to bring up TMBG, and b) it&apos;s my first post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:37:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidgentle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#55987</link>	
		<description>Doesn&apos;t Bowie&apos;s &quot;heroes&quot; feature a prolonged bit of E-Bowed guitar? Isn&apos;t that quite famous? There have been a load of attempts to make infinate sustain devices. There was one that was several little brushes attached to the bridge of the guitar (there exists a photo of noted comedy person Peter Cook holding a Strat with said device). There was an article about these things years ago in &quot;The Guitar Magazine&quot;. If they have a website I can&apos;t find it.
The best solution seemed to be the sustainiac but I think you can only get that on a fernandes guitar. Though I could very easily be wrong about that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2001 20:44:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: holgate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#56047</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Doesn&apos;t Bowie&apos;s &quot;heroes&quot; feature a prolonged bit of E-Bowed guitar? Isn&apos;t that quite famous?&lt;/i&gt;

It&apos;s a classic bit of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.stevenspage.com/et/faq5.htm#q137&quot;&gt;Frippery&lt;/a&gt;, but not an Ebow, which he&apos;s never used professionally: &quot;simply a Les Paul, Marshall cabinet and a way of working.&quot; (He was mentioned in a C4 programme on prog rock last weekend: strange to hear him speak with such a rural West Country burr.)

But anyway: Ebow effects depend on pickup strength: that&apos;s why they&apos;re better off used with a Les Paul/SG than yer classic Strat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:01:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rodii</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6187/#56365</link>	
		<description>Following up on holgate&apos;s Fripp link, I found this great site on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html
&quot;&gt;looping&lt;/a&gt;. Cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:07:49 -0800</pubDate>
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