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	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:39:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>vayama</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.vayama.com/"&gt;vayama is a very slick flight booking site.&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:32:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chunking express</dc:creator>		<category>Air</category>		<category>Travel</category>		<category>Web2.0</category>		<category>tickets</category>		<category>flights</category>		<category>airtravel</category>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736302</link>	
		<description>I like that it&apos;ll search entirely international flights (some engines won&apos;t) but it doesn&apos;t seem to have super cheap airfares. Unless I&apos;m missing something. &lt;small&gt;I&apos;m all about cheap airfares.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:39:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>miss lynnster</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rxrfrx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736308</link>	
		<description>Kayak gave me better fares, and with a shorter search time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:44:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brandon Blatcher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736311</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s so pretty!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:45:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Blatcher</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: chunking express</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736312</link>	
		<description>I was getting good results for Toronto to Sydney, and thus extrapolated that the whole site must be awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:45:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chunking express</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ORthey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736320</link>	
		<description>Oh. I thought you said &quot;a very SICK flight booking site&quot; and I was holding my breath for something unseemly. I was disappointed.

But then after, I looked around, and it&apos;s not so bad! So what I&apos;m saying is, is that you sent me on an emotional rollercoaster.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:49:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ORthey</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Bookhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736324</link>	
		<description>I also read it as &quot;sick.&quot; i thought they were going to be making a lot of crash jokes or something.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:52:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bookhouse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jeremy b</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736334</link>	
		<description>I just wound up buying two tickets to Mumbai while trying to book a trip to Vegas. I suck at geography and apparently you need to be able to find where you want to go on a map in order to book a flight there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:58:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeremy b</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: grouse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736336</link>	
		<description>Can you please explain what makes this worthy of a front page post?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:59:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grouse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mdonley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736341</link>	
		<description>I really wanted to like it, but:

- $10 service fee per passenger, not per order
- couldn&apos;t actually make it to a type-in-your-details-to-purchase-this screen
- the map is pretty, but useless - I already know where my destination is, thanks
- didn&apos;t display similar fares I found on ITA Software, current king of fare hunting
- using &quot;specials&quot; page, map doesn&apos;t display stops en route; a San Francisco-Hong Kong fare with a stop in Vancouver didn&apos;t show the stop in Vancouver, which is kind of deceptive

Maybe when they flesh it out a little more, it&apos;ll be great, but really, I&apos;m looking for efficiency, not people&apos;s photos or blog entries.

Oh, and Pepsi Blue.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:01:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mdonley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: chrisamiller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736384</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d like to try it, but can&apos;t.  The date popup doesn&apos;t work in firefox on ubuntu.  It remains hidden behind the map.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:23:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisamiller</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mdonley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736389</link>	
		<description>One feature I didn&apos;t see before - trying to look at tickets from London Luton to Newark on Silverjet (which, by the way, they use for their photo of business class seats on the front page near the bottom, but don&apos;t seem to sell tickets for), I was presented with a train to Gatwick and a flight from Gatwick to Newark.  The train&apos;s name, though,  &quot;accesrail&quot;, was displayed under the image of an airplane, so a less savvy traveler might think they were flying from Luton to Gatwick, which, um, they wouldn&apos;t be, and Luton Airport itself doesn&apos;t even have a railway station - it&apos;s about a mile away, at a place called Luton Airport Parkway.  Some kinks to be worked out yet, then.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:25:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mdonley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pupdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736405</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll take your word for it, I guess. I got some really long page loads, and not the greatest of deals. I don&apos;t see much other than a very slick interface that seemed to make for slow pageloads. Maybe that&apos;s just me (I know, beta site and all, but if it&apos;s live, it should work).

Their &apos;About Us&apos; page is kinda vague about what makes them special. It has a whiff of &apos;we&apos;re special because we say we are, trust us&apos; about it.

Another site to watch I guess, but nothing that makes it jump out at me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:33:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pupdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736412</link>	
		<description>I also just noticed that the &apos;New York - all airports&apos; is just LGA and JFK, leaving fairly easily accessible Newark out of the loop entirely. Most other sites include it as an option.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:35:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: genghis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736413</link>	
		<description>You can&apos;t display anything on top of a Flash app on *nixes.  So it&apos;s not possible to pick a date.  So it&apos;s not possible to get off the front page.

FAIL.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:35:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grouse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736427</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Pepsi Blue.&lt;/em&gt;

Is there a flag for that?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:41:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grouse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ORthey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736428</link>	
		<description>Please stop saying Pepsi Blue. It&apos;s like commenting &quot;politics&quot; if we have a post about politics, or &quot;relationship&quot; if we have a relationship-y AskMe.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:42:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ORthey</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rush</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736454</link>	
		<description>Is this something Americans would have to know geography to understand?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:02:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chunking express</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736471</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Is there a flag for that?&lt;/em&gt;

&quot;Other&quot; I suppose.  

You can also flag crap off-topic comments as noise or derail.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:18:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chunking express</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736527</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s visually neat, but a load of shit after that. 10 dollar booking fee, my asscrack! I like kayak better because while it&apos;s neat to see the map, I generally know where the place it before I decide to buy tickets to go there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:49:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: imperium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736534</link>	
		<description>One buggy calendar. And it rejected my manual entry. This is even less use than the crappy auction site I FPP&apos;d earlier.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:53:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>imperium</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mirv</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736586</link>	
		<description>The map is very slick, but overall, the site sucks.  I think it managed to find the worst possible deals, and completely overlooked the one non-stop flight I was looking for.

What I really want is a site that combines the slickness of a map, but tells me where I can fly from a city.  I&apos;m approaching 100,000 frequent flier miles (I put everything--including $.99 tacos--on my mileage credit card), and I like to dream about all the places I could go, for example, with the Star Alliance airlines (United Airlines).  

United lets you have one extended stopover if you&apos;re flying between two different geographic regions, and I&apos;d like to see my options.  What about a trip to from U.S.A. to Beijing, with stopover on the way back in Shanghai?  Tokyo?  Kyoto?  Seoul?  Or how about a trip to Singapore with a stopover in Berlin?  Frankfurt?  Or a trip to South Africa, with a stopover in Portugal?

I would spend hours on a map site like that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:35:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mirv</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736636</link>	
		<description>I like the map because it shows how bad the connections you get really are.  Like if you&apos;re flying from NYC to Costa Rica, is it better to go through Houston or Miami?

OTOH, the initial page load was pretty staggeringly bad, with a blank page for 30 seconds.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:25:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: misha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1736703</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qixo.com&quot;&gt;Qixo &lt;/a&gt;has none of the slick interface, but always finds me the cheapest fares. Kayak is a pretty close second.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:44:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>misha</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: shothotbot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1737050</link>	
		<description>Even the map didn&apos;t work for me and it told me there are no direct flights from Montreal to New York.  Oh, well.  I am going stick with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sidestep.com/&quot;&gt;sidestep&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:44:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shothotbot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: greytape</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1737170</link>	
		<description>www.skyscanner.net</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:06:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>greytape</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mr.marx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1737187</link>	
		<description>greytape: that&apos;s more like it. thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:41:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mr.marx</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: misha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62252/vayama#1737193</link>	
		<description>greytape: wow. Thanks. I have a new favorite.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:50:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>misha</dc:creator>
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