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	<title>Comments on: From a better vanished time?</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:42:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>From a better vanished time?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.mat.fi/projects.htm"&gt;Classic Car Restorations&lt;/a&gt; - I was particularly taken by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mat.fi/project1929fordmodel-a.htm&quot;&gt;Model A&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mat.fi/project1949zis110.htm&quot;&gt;parade ground car&lt;/a&gt; of Stalin.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:38:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wolfdog</dc:creator>		<category>autos</category>		<category>cars</category>		<category>historic</category>		<category>restoration</category>		<category>stalin</category>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742217</link>	
		<description>Wouldn&apos;t it be awesome to see Stalin on &quot;Pimp My Ride&quot;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:42:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Wolfdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742224</link>	
		<description>Or, perhaps more suitably, &quot;Ride Pimps You&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:45:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wolfdog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Big_B</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742239</link>	
		<description>Take a 1929 Model A, do a frame off resto, add significant chassis strength, and a 250+ hp rally car motor, but leave on the drum brakes????

*boggles*</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:02:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pmbuko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742265</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll take a gleaming alloy air car over those.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:36:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CynicalKnight</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742266</link>	
		<description>That was rather humbling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:37:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Astro Zombie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742271</link>	
		<description>I could not even afford the bucket it would require to wash a car like these!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:42:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Astro Zombie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742328</link>	
		<description>GET A HORSE!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:25:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maxwelton</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742338</link>	
		<description>You know, I&apos;m not much into modified old cars, but that Model A is a beautifully done modernization of an old machine without losing the appeal of the original. These guys do very nice work.

And one true luxury when restoring a car is being able to spread out all of the pieces of an assembly...the funnest part of any restoration is having a large pile of perfectly restored pieces that have yet to go together. Shot #76 in the Model A resto made me very jealous.

Drum brakes will work fine in normal driving, especially if they have modern-material linings.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:31:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fandango_matt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742339</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;strong&gt;posted by Big_B&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Take a 1929 Model A, do a frame off resto, add significant chassis strength, and a 250+ hp rally car motor, but leave on the drum brakes???? *boggles*&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/small&gt;

In this case, I bet the restorers were aiming for subtlety and authenticity over safety/hotroddishness. Note the wheels--they&apos;re machined alloy but painted to look like the original wood. The same is true with the engine--the air cleaner is painted with the original logo. When you start adding chromed valve covers and drilled disc brakes and VDO gauges and Centerlines, the car looks less like an authentic restoration and more like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-rumbler.com/nats2k3-19.html&quot;&gt;ZZTop.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;small&gt;Not that there&apos;s anything wrong with that...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:31:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742342</link>	
		<description>beautiful</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:33:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the painkiller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742363</link>	
		<description>the restoration work on those group a/b rally cars is awfully impressive.  i like how they basically give up on restoring most of the chassis of the &apos;83 audi quattro a2 and just start carving off huge chunks from a donor car.  and those completed lancias look awesome!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:43:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SteveInMaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742365</link>	
		<description>No &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/62016/50-Paint-Job&quot;&gt;fifty dollar paint job &lt;/a&gt;there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:44:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ninjew</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742398</link>	
		<description>That welding is artwork.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:02:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Relay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742448</link>	
		<description>Holy shit ... a Lancia Delta S4.

Those things are &lt;em&gt;SO&lt;/em&gt; gnarly ... just ansk &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Toivonen&quot;&gt;Henri Toivonen&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:34:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Relay</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: saladin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742472</link>	
		<description>Yeah, those rally car restorations are jaw-dropping.  What I wouldn&apos;t give for 10 minutes behind the wheel of that Delta S4.  Great find, thanks Wolfdog.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:48:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742887</link>	
		<description>Things like this make me happy. Classic and beautiful vehicles, high quality craftsmen, combined with modern materials make for such a perfect mix. I&apos;d love to see something similar with vintage aircraft as well, but the price barrier to playing is probably too steep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:22:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1742924</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;What&apos;s that?  You can&apos;t find the part because there are only five existing models left in the world and they&apos;re all in museums or the garage of some Dubai prince?  Oh, that&apos;s OK.  We&apos;ll just fab our own.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Must be nice to have that kind of money.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:07:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1743024</link>	
		<description>Two car restoration threads today.  Yay.  

You all should go to a classic car show sometime.  They are everywhere.  Jersey is big on cars and there are multiple shows within a 20 minute ride from me every week of the summer.  I want a Model A, but if I get one it will not look like this one, cool as it is.  Oh no, it will weigh what, 1500 lbs or less, and sport 500 hp and 500 ft-lbs of torque and cover the standing quarter mile in under 11 seconds.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:08:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>caddis</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jba</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1743195</link>	
		<description>awesome stuff, thanks wolfdog.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:14:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cranberry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1743228</link>	
		<description>They left out the cup holders in the old Ford. Door pockets, sure. They are gathered fabric, but they are there. Can any American exist in a car without at least  a dozen cup holders?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:39:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cranberry</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Eideteker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1743281</link>	
		<description>Damn you, now I am going to have Red Barchetta stuck in my head all day. Doesn&apos;t help I&apos;m seeing them live tonight!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:31:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the painkiller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1743287</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Can any American exist in a car without at least a dozen cup holders?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

judging by the harley i saw pulling away from the dunkin donuts nearest me yesterday, we can&apos;t live without cupholders on our motorcycles either.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:36:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolfdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1743366</link>	
		<description>I do not think, DU, that you will so successfully restore a 1949 horse.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:01:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62397/From-a-better-vanished-time#1743632</link>	
		<description>What would they do with this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/06/25/worlds_oldest_car/index.html&quot;&gt;1884 De Dion-Bouton et Trepardoux&lt;/a&gt; (claimed to be the world&apos;s oldest car, and it is for sale).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:16:56 -0800</pubDate>
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