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Post number 6240

jpoulos — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 06:50:55 -0800

Has anyone been to Megnut recently? Be sure to read the page source.

By: jpoulos

jpoulos — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 06:52:03 -0800

I've been debating posting this for a couple of days now for a couple of reasons. I feel a little weird, since Meg's a high-profilie member of the MeFi community, and she's obviously going through some very personal stuff, and opening a thread will probably start all sorts of awkward speculation. But then, she is a high-profile member of the MeFi community. Is this news? Is it our business?

By: jed

jed — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 07:07:34 -0800

I think the whole point of source comments is that they're meant to be hidden - posting a thread about it sort of defeats the point.

By: ericost

ericost — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 07:13:32 -0800

Didn't you guys know those comments were only meant for the A-list? If you don't respect their privacy, they will never let you join.

By: cheaily

cheaily — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 07:17:36 -0800

you spoiled it... oh well.

By: vanderwal2

vanderwal2 — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 07:20:04 -0800

The page has had me smiling to myself for days.

By: m.polo

m.polo — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 07:25:16 -0800

The always entertaining plasticbag.org pointed this out a day or so ago. I was left thinking, "Too clever, at least by half. What's the point?"

By: tallman

tallman — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 07:59:47 -0800

Well I guess you could have been a little more subtle about it.... Anyway it makes a good example for the use of this nifty tool.

By: beefula

beefula — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:02:27 -0800

> Is this news? Is it our business? Neither. It's not even interesting. I like Megnut, but this is just not very noteworthy, and it's definitely not clever or innovative, people have been doing similar things for years on the web.I've seen whole journals hidden this way. I guess when people find something hidden their first impulse is always to show someone it.

By: iceberg273

iceberg273 — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:12:41 -0800

By: bradlands

bradlands — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:14:42 -0800

The first rule of Source Club is "Don't talk about Source Club." ;-)

By: jpoulos

jpoulos — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:20:41 -0800

To be perfectly honest, when I posted the link, I was unaware of the comments that meg had made since Friday. I must have been looking at a cached copy, because my understanding was that all she had there was "I just don't have anything good to say anymore. So I'm not going to say anything at all." This thread wasn't supposed to be about a "source log", but about (what appeared to be at the time) Meg throwing her hands up and "quitting".

By: beth

beth — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:21:08 -0800

Hey, this inspires me in a different direction. Maybe I'll make my log all-text at some point, unformatted. Hmm. Sort of an anti-design design statement, as it were. Hmmm....

By: mathowie

mathowie — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:34:09 -0800

This thread wasn't supposed to be about a "source log", but about (what appeared to be at the time) Meg throwing her hands up and "quitting". If someone really "quits" I doubt they want to see people discuss their demise here.

By: heather

heather — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:57:38 -0800

i've always thought that posting source commentary or "nudge, nudge view the source" kind of stuff is tacky and i've never understood why people do it. then again, i've never understood why the bay city rollers were such hit, what with those hairdos and all, so i guess there are some questions that can't be answered.

By: CrazyUncleJoe

CrazyUncleJoe — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:09:35 -0800

Hm... I don't have a problem with it.

By: jennyb

jennyb — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:10:45 -0800

When a page goes away, the source code is always the first place I look.

By: holgate

holgate — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:15:40 -0800

[Insert "view the source, Luke" gag here.]

By: Mick

Mick — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:16:23 -0800

Source wants to be free!

By: pecus

pecus — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:19:25 -0800

sometimes you want to keep a journal private. most personal journals are that way. many became public after quite some time, other made their reappearances after long hiatus. sometimes you want to say things just for the heck of it even, even if you don't want them to be public. meg does not need to redesign if she wants to make her posts publicly available (though I bet she mocks quite a lot on her public with the source log, especially the public that shoots pics at her in the park...), but to be happy about what she's saying. and i bet that if/when megnut reopens, it'll be a lot more interesting than the source log. then again, i don't think it's anyone business but hers.

By: jpoulos

jpoulos — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:21:56 -0800

Maybe not Matt, but Meg has been sharing her life with us for years. I'm not a fan of invading anyone's personal space, but I only posted what she herself had made available to the public. If Meg had simply stopped updating the site, and left a public note as to why, she would have invited less scrutiny than she has by handling it this way. I said from the start that I wasn't sure I should have posted it, and I think now that I probably shouldn't have. But I think there are some valid issues here: private v. public "blogged" life, Pyra's troubles reflected in the blogs it helped produce, the "A-List" (I hate that term) as micro-media icons. Maybe MeFi isn't the best place for the discussion, as some among us are too close to the situation, but I still think it's worthy of discussion somewhere. If Meg is about to call it quits, I, for one, will miss her.

By: heather

heather — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:23:55 -0800

crap. what i was trying to say - and said very badly - that linking or writing about someone else who has comments and saying "view their source" or "i found blah blah blah" in x's code is tacky. commented text is not in itself tacky. too early. not enought diet coke.

By: heather

heather — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:25:08 -0800

oh and joe, darling, you could never be tacky. except perhaps for that jester's cap.... :)

By: mmanning

mmanning — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:42:12 -0800

if meg (or anyone else) really didn't want people (or, more specifically, the wrong people) to read what she was writing, she'd either a) move it to a different, hidden url, or b) not put it online.

By: joshua

joshua — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:44:49 -0800

about as interesting and clever as this

By: hijinx

hijinx — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:52:29 -0800

Maybe she just wanted to give a treat to adventurous visitors. No biggie. Or, maybe it's a part of the View Source Initiative of 2001, which encourages everyone to start viewing source. Source is your friend.

By: th3ph17

th3ph17 — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:00:03 -0800

i'm an avid source reader, and used to have source comments on every page...it is sort of spooky sometimes to find some old webpage from 1996 with source comments i made while making it...listening to such and such band, going to see so-and-so whom i am madly in love with...etc... its like opening a crypt sometimes. Need Coffee.

By: darren

darren — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:08:01 -0800

All your Source are belong to us! [OK, sorry. I'll ban myself for a day as penance]

By: williamtry

williamtry — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:19:01 -0800

Each to his/her own, I guess, but isn't it just a bandwagon to jump on?

By: bradlands

bradlands — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:25:46 -0800

OK, heather, I'll give you a pass on this time since you're apparently suffering Diet Coke withdrawal, but don't go mocking Joe's cap again. DO NOT TAUNT HAPPY FUN CAP!!

By: judith

judith — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:26:54 -0800

geez. that meg. so clever. all i can add is "she has legs that don't quit!"

By: megnut

megnut — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:29:32 -0800

All right, I'm going to respond to this, only because the speculation is too sillly to ignore. Here's what happened (and I'm sure this will take all the fun out of this and then we can move on): I took the site down for a variety of reasons. If I wanted you to know why, I would have told you. I'm not ready to put the site back up yet, for a variety of reasons. If I want you to know why, I'll tell you. In the meantime, I discovered I still had things I wanted to say, so I posted them in the source. For fun. Because it's silly. Not because I'm trying to be clever, original, cute, smart, or any thing else people are assuming. I did it because I felt like it. And that's it.

By: jpoulos

jpoulos — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:36:33 -0800

Aww...this is no fun any more. Let's move on. :-)

By: christian

christian — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:50:48 -0800

meg, you don't have to try to be clever, original, cute, or smart. it all comes naturally for you.

By: hijinx

hijinx — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:51:22 -0800

Can I complain about Network Solutions now? ;)

By: thirteen

thirteen — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:52:51 -0800

I think Meg is clever, original, cute, and smart! DON"T TELL MY WIFE!

By: thirteen

thirteen — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:54:05 -0800

Damn christian! Beat me to the punch!

By: CrazyUncleJoe

CrazyUncleJoe — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:01:48 -0800

Damn thirteen! You beat me to the "beat me to the punch" punch! Damn hijinx! You beat me to the punch!

By: hijinx

hijinx — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:08:29 -0800

Damn you all! And me too!

By: MarkAnd

MarkAnd — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:09:44 -0800

Can't we talk about something important, like where Meg works now?

By: schlomo

schlomo — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:18:49 -0800

NO---- but we can talk about why her webcam isn't up:)

By: ed

ed — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:20:02 -0800

Meg has a spleen that doesn't quit.

By: plinth

plinth — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:55:58 -0800

Now that this particular source of fun is removed, we need to go back to making fun of CUJoe's hat. Although you could just as well make fun of my hat.

By: holgate

holgate — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:02:48 -0800

...Meg has been sharing her life with us for years. Since when did "having a web site" become "sharing a life"? (And why is this idea almost invariably applied to women?) Sheesh. This isn't We Live In Public, you know.

By: bradlands

bradlands — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:26:02 -0800

I warned y'all to lay off my man Joe. Listen up, yo, if you really need to make fun of a hat, knock yourself out.

By: jason

jason — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:42:56 -0800

Ha ha! All your scalp are belong to Bugs! Shoot me.

By: bryanboyer

bryanboyer — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:05:25 -0800

By: thirteen

thirteen — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:06:36 -0800

Satan help me, I have accidently composed an entire song called Megnut, sung to the tune of Steve Martin's King Tut. I really am busy, it just came to me as I was backing up files. Here is a sample MEGNUT When she was a youg girl, She never thought she'd see, people checking source code sent by FTP I hate me too.

By: bradlands

bradlands — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:15:00 -0800

I agree with bryanboyer. Haha.

By: ed

ed — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:40:04 -0800

By: frykitty

frykitty — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:42:37 -0800

By: mathowie

mathowie — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:44:01 -0800

By: megnut

megnut — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:45:41 -0800

By: frykitty

frykitty — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:52:30 -0800

By: hijinx

hijinx — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:52:33 -0800

Next trend: putting your comments in someone else's source.

By: BT

BT — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:53:44 -0800

Hey, what's the deal with this funny-lookin' thread?

By: Skot

Skot — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:06:22 -0800

We officially have a new meme.

By: MarkBakalor

MarkBakalor — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:24:27 -0800

All your are belong to us!

By: jason

jason — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:28:01 -0800

I'm waiting for the one that just says

By: jason

jason — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:29:54 -0800

Whoa. That really broke it. And it looked right in preview, too. I used ampersand-gt-semicolon, I swear. (View source if you're just tuning in.)

By: holgate

holgate — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:30:42 -0800

By: vanderwal2

vanderwal2 — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:33:19 -0800

Looks like a Florida Election Booth around here. Fun for everyone

By: jkottke

jkottke — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:46:34 -0800

I'd like to add that I know for certain that Meg's legs do, in fact, quit.

By: sixfoot6

sixfoot6 — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:01:11 -0800

Has anyone been to Metafilter recently? Be sure to read the page source.

By: ed

ed — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:02:47 -0800

Things clauses A-list and original sentence. Concerning no one.

By: BT

BT — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:40:38 -0800

I have the oddest feeling I've lost something...

By: CrazyUncleJoe

CrazyUncleJoe — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:52:17 -0800

-->

By: CrazyUncleJoe

CrazyUncleJoe — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:53:20 -0800

okay, that only *looks* like it came from me... I had to uh... fix something so that I could post my own comment.

By: CrazyUncleJoe

CrazyUncleJoe — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:53:33 -0800

Where were you people during the Bloggies???

By: holgate

holgate — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:56:59 -0800

For BT.

By: iceberg273

iceberg273 — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:02:07 -0800

Ah, just click here from now on to view the source (at least in IE5).

By: BT

BT — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:02:33 -0800

ah. tired. this will teach me not to be so quick to laugh of all those who use too many exclamation points in their visible text...

By: jpoulos

jpoulos — Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:32:04 -0800

By: plinth

plinth — Thu, 08 Mar 2001 05:07:03 -0800

I just don't get it. posted by plinth at 5:04 AM PST on March 8 That's because you're a small minded pea-head and a pencil-necked geek, plinth posted by CrazyUncleJoe at 5:05 AM PST on March 8 Where did that come from, CUJoe?

By: CrazyUncleJoe

CrazyUncleJoe — Thu, 08 Mar 2001 08:50:48 -0800

Okay, well that was pretty scary.