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	<title>Comments on: What&apos;s long and hard and ultimately futile?</title>
	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile/</link>
	<description>Comments on MetaFilter post What&apos;s long and hard and ultimately futile?</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:09:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>What&apos;s long and hard and ultimately futile?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile</link>	
		<description>&quot;Grigioni, now back in Switzerland, said she could normally get tortoises to ejaculate within minutes, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSN2530026720070701?rpc=92&quot;&gt;spent months manually stimulating George and never extracted semen from him&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:54:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mr_crash_davis</dc:creator>		<category>tortoise</category>		<category>galapogos</category>		<category>research</category>		<category>semen</category>		<category>reproduction</category>		<category>worstjobintheworld</category>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748179</link>	
		<description>Ok, so out of a 17 paragraph article about the impending extinction of an entire species of animal, you pick the only one that sounds like porn.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:09:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>miss lynnster</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Henry C. Mabuse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748182</link>	
		<description>Yes, but tortoise semen is not as efficacious as owl semen.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:10:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry C. Mabuse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748184</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Stay classy, &lt;b&gt;Mr_Crash_Davis.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:11:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>miss lynnster</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: CitrusFreak12</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748186</link>	
		<description>Aw. Poor George. Poor species. :(

I like turtles.
&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Anyone who posts a link to that damn YTMND gets their arms chopped off.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:12:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CitrusFreak12</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: exlotuseater</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748187</link>	
		<description>reverend to you</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:13:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>exlotuseater</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jason&apos;s_planet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748193</link>	
		<description>it could be worse. 

she could be sailing the high seas &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/0203101256a23110vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html&quot;&gt;in search of whale dookie&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:20:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jason&apos;s_planet</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748194</link>	
		<description>Sorry, miss lynnster, I read about someone jacking off a tortoise for months at a time with no result and I just immediately think of Metafilter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:26:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mr_crash_davis</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: wfrgms</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748195</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;pre&gt;    wait. comeback. i love you!&lt;br&gt;          __   /&lt;br&gt;   _____ (@@)&lt;br&gt; -/ \ / \//O&lt;br&gt;  ,,| ,,|&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:27:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wfrgms</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pruner</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748196</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/59289/Masturbating-elephants-for-science&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt; (masturbating elephants for science)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:30:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748197</link>	
		<description>&quot;I work for the animal to have explosion, for liquid, to make them have more animals. My specialty is camel to have liquid explosion.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:31:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748202</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Just don&apos;t say &quot;hi five.&quot; Keep your camel-covered hands to yourself.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:39:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>miss lynnster</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: stavrogin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748206</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-06-29.html&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; a more detailed account.  Sadly, there are no pictures of her.

 As Nicholls tells the story &#8212; and he is a brilliant storyteller and narrative stylist in the finest tradition &#8212; a beautiful Swiss graduate student named Sveva Grigioni undertook the tried and true method of semen extraction as practiced by animal breeders. In tortoises the penis is tucked away inside the tail for safe keeping while it traverses across sharp lava rubble. When aroused, the penis emerges and becomes erect, allowing an ejaculation to occur. Scientists have had some success in capturing an ejaculate for artificial insemination by, well, a form of human-tortoise foreplay. As Nicholls describes the process employed by one scientist on another tortoise:

    She began to touch his rear end and stroke his legs, causing the beast to raise himself off the ground. She then began to caress his tail. Eventually the penis flopped out and with more gentle rubbing produced an ejaculate.

Grigioni first practiced this process on other male tortoises, and she was able to produce an ejaculation inside 10 minutes. But George has been lonesome for a very long time and when she entered his pen, &quot;He was very shy at the beginning. He was such a big animal and he was so afraid.&quot; Grigioni spent days habituating herself to him so that she could finally touch and stroke him. Nothing. Grigioni then smeared her hands with genital secretions from females of a closely related tortoise species, and that at least got a look at George&apos;s penis, which appeared to be in good working order. But the subsequent attempts to get an ejaculation, or to get him to mount a female, failed. As Grigioni explained: &quot;Day by day, he started to be more interested in the females. He started to try copulation but it was like he really didn&apos;t know how.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:40:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pyramid termite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748215</link>	
		<description>&quot;so, how was work today, honey?&quot;

&quot;eh ... all i did was jack off&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:55:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pyramid termite</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: hal9k</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748223</link>	
		<description>Probably just being shy. Maybe she should wait for him to cum out of his shell?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:08:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Parannoyed</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748225</link>	
		<description>Seriously, I&apos;m not sure any amount of you&apos;re-saving-a-species-and-its-totally-necessary goody goody feelings could get me past the fact that I spent most of my day giving a tortoise a handjob.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:10:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Parannoyed</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: thatswherebatslive</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748228</link>	
		<description>I don&apos; know which would be worse, the feeling you get when you realize that you have to give a handjob to a tortoise, or the crushing defeat in being unable to bring him to release. Like, wouldn&apos;t that really make you doubt your tortoise handjob technique?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:18:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thatswherebatslive</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: litfit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748230</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Grigioni first practiced this process on other male tortoises, and she was able to produce an ejaculation inside 10 minutes.&lt;/i&gt;

Am I reading this correctly - where the beautiful grad student Sveva consoles herself by telling the interviewer that all of the other turtles had a really good time? George: &quot;It&apos;s not your fault honey, it&apos;s okay, I&apos;m just distracted at work.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:25:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steven C. Den Beste</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748233</link>	
		<description>Maybe George is gay...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:31:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steven C. Den Beste</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748234</link>	
		<description>sometimes every seed truly is scared</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:32:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>caddis</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748237</link>	
		<description>Slow and steady wins the race.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:36:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Astro Zombie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748241</link>	
		<description>Well, the excerpted quote extracted semen from me in minutes!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:40:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Astro Zombie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748245</link>	
		<description>This is the 21st century.  Can&apos;t they clone &apos;em?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:51:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shavenwarthog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748255</link>	
		<description>&quot;dude, he&apos;s just not into you.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:08:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shavenwarthog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: BrotherCaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748260</link>	
		<description>Dear Sveva,

DTMFA.

-Dan Savage</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:15:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BrotherCaine</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: geos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748261</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Herein lies a tale for our times: human degradation...&lt;/i&gt;

So, uh, why do you want her picture?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:16:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>geos</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ryvar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748262</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is the 21st century. Can&apos;t they clone &apos;em?&lt;/i&gt;

This is something that has bothered me for a long time.  Where is the charity that admits that because of human selfishness, the overwhelming majority of animal species are doomed, and spends 95% of all donated money towards gene sequencing various animal types in order from least to most likely to go extinct in the near future?

It would be the one conservation charity that even a selfish bastard like myself would give to.  I *KNOW* we&apos;re not going to stop raping the natural world, and I *KNOW* we&apos;re going to end up killing 90% of the species currently in existence, so let&apos;s start getting their genetics on file for the distant future . . .</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:17:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ryvar</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: geos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748263</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2002/01/17/dpub_astley80s.jpg&quot;&gt;Sveva Grigioni&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:18:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>geos</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: taosbat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748267</link>	
		<description>&quot;Lonesome George:&quot; never did care much about nothing &apos;cept what he cared for in his reptilian mind...lived long.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:26:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>taosbat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Pope Guilty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748272</link>	
		<description>&quot;It&apos;s important to have a job that makes a difference, boys. That&apos;s why I manually masturbate caged animals for artificial insemination.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:35:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pope Guilty</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: taosbat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748277</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-06-29.html&quot;&gt;Lonesome&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/scienceandnature/story/0,,1773503,00.html&quot;&gt;George&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:41:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>taosbat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: George_Spiggott</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748280</link>	
		<description>National Lampoon, way back when it was a funny magazine instead of a brand you stamp on horribly unfunny movies in the hope of getting someone to go see it before the reviews come out, actually did a thing about getting tortoises to ejaculate.  Although in their story it they did it by getting rabbits to, um, I&apos;ll just stop there.

P.S. Let&apos;s take the &apos;eponysterical&apos; comment re my moniker as regards this post as given, okay?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:49:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>George_Spiggott</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: taosbat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748288</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;It&apos;s important to have a job that makes a difference, boys. That&apos;s why I manually masturbate caged animals for artificial insemination.&quot;
posted by Pope Guilty&lt;/em&gt;

...bull seamen for your tender steak...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:59:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>taosbat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ao4047</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748291</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every &lt;s&gt;Panda&lt;/s&gt; Galapagos tortoise that wouldn&apos;t screw to save its species.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/quotes&quot;&gt;&amp;middot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:01:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ao4047</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748292</link>	
		<description>What&apos;s a Spiggott?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:02:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>UbuRoivas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748295</link>	
		<description>The Wired article describes her as &apos;comely&apos;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:03:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tellurian</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: George_Spiggott</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748298</link>	
		<description>UbiRoivas,

Twenty bucks, same as in town.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:09:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>George_Spiggott</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: porpoise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748300</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Steven C. Den Beste&lt;/b&gt; - Maybe George is gay...&lt;/i&gt;

Are you saying that she should have tried &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/results?search_query=tortoise%20sex&amp;search=Search&quot;&gt;heatbutting &lt;/a&gt; George a few times?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:17:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>porpoise</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Slothrup</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748306</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Wired article describes her as &apos;comely&apos;&lt;/i&gt;

How does &lt;b&gt;Wired&lt;/b&gt; know what a tortoise would find attractive?  Never mind; I don&apos;t think I want to know.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:24:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Slothrup</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748311</link>	
		<description>Twenty bucks?!?!?

That had better be full service!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:31:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>UbuRoivas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: porpoise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748314</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748311&quot;&gt;UbiRoivas&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;i&gt;Twenty bucks?!?!?&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;small&gt;Full service is usually 2 or 3 c-notes. A handjob is anywhere from a 20 to a benjamin. Unless you&apos;re talking crack hoes.

A hand job from a science chick? I&apos;m thinking either protein and nucleic acids or far far more money than &lt;i&gt;you&apos;re&lt;/i&gt; able to pay.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:36:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>porpoise</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rob511</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748320</link>	
		<description>Aesop for the New Millennium: The Tortoise and the Hairy Palm</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:00:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rob511</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: buggzzee23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748321</link>	
		<description>We&apos;ve owned California Desert Tortoises since I was a kid and I still laugh whenever I come across a pair of them making little tortoises.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:06:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>buggzzee23</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748364</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;em&gt;A hand job from a science chick? I&apos;m thinking either protein and nucleic acids or far far more money than you&apos;re able to pay.&lt;/em&gt;

I think I&apos;ll go with the former method, rather than the cash, but would prefer to pay over many instalments, if that&apos;s possible.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:38:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>UbuRoivas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748385</link>	
		<description>maybe the article got it wrong.  could be george isn&apos;t disinterested, he just has incredible stamina.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:15:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: chuckdarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748419</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m reminded of the species extinction clock...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:34:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chuckdarwin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: absalom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62550/Whats-long-and-hard-and-ultimately-futile#1748546</link>	
		<description>Now, THAT is what I call a grabber. . . and a pretty good intro statement, too!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:39:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>absalom</dc:creator>
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