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	<title>Comments on: &quot;They&apos;re dead, they&apos;re... they&apos;re all messed up.&quot;</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:37:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>&quot;They&apos;re dead, they&apos;re... they&apos;re all messed up.&quot;</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up</link>	
		<description>In the grand tradition of &lt;a href=http://www.sjgames.com/killer/&gt;Killer&lt;/a&gt; comes &lt;a href=http://www.webfeatsdesign.com/hvz/&gt;Humans Vs. Zombies&lt;/a&gt;, a campus game that&apos;s growing in popularity. From its origins at &lt;a href=http://www.goucher.edu/&gt;Goucher&lt;/a&gt;, it&apos;s spread to a reported two dozen colleges. An interview with the game&apos;s moderator is &lt;a href=http://media.www.thequindecim.com/media/storage/paper618/news/2007/05/08/ArtsAndEntertainment/Humans.Vs.Zombies.Moderator.Explains.All-2895876.shtml&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and you can watch the 45-minute documentary from one of the games on &lt;a href=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-327449080137316177&amp;hl=en&gt;Google Video&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:21:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lekvar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761476</link>	
		<description>I often wish I was back in college, but rarely as much as I do right now.  That sounds like a blast.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:37:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sangermaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761495</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;- Darts must not hurt on impact. (If you&apos;re not sure about this, fire it at point-blank range into your own eye and see if it hurts. If you&apos;re still not sure, just speak with a moderator.)&lt;/em&gt;
I think I&apos;d just err on the side of caution and not use the dart if I have to fire it into my eye to check...

And yeah, it sounds like a blast.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:54:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sangermaine</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Pope Guilty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761501</link>	
		<description>The kids in the movie use all manner of Nerf guns, so it looks like that&apos;s pretty much okay.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:58:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GavinR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761511</link>	
		<description>I played Killer once in High School..... =(

I am such a nerd.  That had to be sometime in 1987 or 1988.  I still have a copy of the rulebook that Steve Jackson Games published at or around that time.  He had one of the best game companies in the history of gaming!!!!  Shame about the FBI incident.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:06:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GavinR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761518</link>	
		<description>Oops, my bad...it was the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jackson_Games%2C_Inc._v._United_States_Secret_Service&quot;&gt;Secret Service&lt;/a&gt;.  I actually saw him speak at a convention once and he talked about the incident.  I also got to shake his hand and thank him for his work.  I was probably 18 at the time and I was so impressed...lol, I am such a geek.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:09:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ntartifex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761555</link>	
		<description>Great documentary! Thanks for posting this.

I couldn&apos;t totally see if there were any ladies in the human teams (college hairstyles don&apos;t help), but I noticed that there seemed to be a gender divide with the leadership of the human team and the leadership of the zombie team!

Zombies = cooties? You decide, MeFi.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:28:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ira.metafilter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761606</link>	
		<description>Yeah looks like great fun, and great documentary, but I think I saw a zombie running &lt;em&gt;away&lt;/em&gt; from a human? That&apos;s not very...zombie-like.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:56:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761657</link>	
		<description>I was working on something very similar to this for my office. But I was going to use index cards which basically told you if you were a zombie or a human. A couple of coins flips would determine if the human escaped, was zombified, or killed the zombie. 

My goal was to make an entertaining game which cost less than a buck. 

Their version sounds a bit more complex and I bet it&apos;s a lot of fun to play.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:40:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: misha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761660</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m waiting for Zombiefilter, where human mefites have to survive the snarky zombies...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:42:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761746</link>	
		<description>I organized a 35 person &quot;Killer&quot; game in 1982 when it first came out. People loved it, but cheating was rampant and the teachers at school were not amused.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:58:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: litlnemo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761764</link>	
		<description>I organized &quot;Killer&quot; games (we called it KAOS: Killing as Organized Sport) in both high school and college. It was a blast and we actually didn&apos;t get in too much trouble. Some of the game&apos;s rules were specifically designed to prevent the administration from having any issues with us playing, and it worked. We might have had 30 or so in the largest game I ran. It was so much fun. I wish I could figure out a way to play it again, but it&apos;s a lot more difficult when you are not in a school environment.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:21:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adipocere</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761804</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m fairly sure that the remake of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084756/&quot;&gt;T.A.G. The Assassination Game&lt;/a&gt; will be exactly like this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:51:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andywolf</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1761960</link>	
		<description>this sounds amazing.  minor quibble though, the music is way too loud (guess that may mean i&apos;m too old) and it makes it hard for me to hear what is being said at times.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:47:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andywolf</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1762003</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;someone said that it was/is &quot;disrespectful to play with toy guns at college when there is a war and our military is fighting overseas.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;

huh?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:45:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: now i&apos;m piste</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1762037</link>	
		<description>Oh wow, Joey Sklover made it here on the blue. (I used to date/hang out with his older sister.) I&apos;ve heard a good deal of excitement about the game proceding from his &lt;a href=&quot;http://littleo147.livejournal.com/&quot;&gt;LiveJournal&lt;/a&gt;, where he has some past entries about the game (grep for zombies.) It always sounded interesting and I&apos;d be interested in visualizing the transmission vector, especially now while the game is still young.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:31:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Defenestrator</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1762101</link>	
		<description>A friend of mine lived in a dormitory where they tried playing this as a building-wide game. She said 75% of the people were &quot;too cool&quot; to play.

Seems like a ton of fun though if you can find a willing and enthusiastic group.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:24:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lifeless</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1762112</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&apos;m waiting for Zombiefilter, where human mefites have to survive the snarky zombies...&lt;/i&gt;

Arguably, that&apos;s already the present situation, if not in name.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:48:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/62869/Theyre-dead-theyre-theyre-all-messed-up#1762658</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;someone said that it was/is &quot;disrespectful to play with toy guns at college when there is a war and our military is fighting overseas.&quot; 

&quot;huh?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Far as I&apos;m concerned, the war has been disrespectful of me. No one asked my permission to send my country into war. So if kids wanna run around playing war in college? More power to &apos;em. 

Saw a recent SouthPark episode where homeless were compared to zombies. Parker &amp;amp; Stone always crack me up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:49:49 -0800</pubDate>
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