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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:06:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Made in China</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/slideshows/made-in-china/"&gt;Made in China.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;em&gt;A look inside the world&apos;s manufacturing center.&lt;/em&gt;  Flash video slideshow of the port of Shenzhen (7:00 minutes with sound)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:49:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>srboisvert</dc:creator>		<category>china</category>		<category>shenzhen</category>		<category>outsourcing</category>		<category>trade</category>		<category>manufacturing</category>
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		<title>By: KokuRyu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773460</link>	
		<description>Grrreat post.

However, the link resized my browser, and the sound is in fact cheezy &apos;Oriental synth.&apos;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:06:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: simonw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773535</link>	
		<description>I found Bunnie Huang&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?cat=7&quot;&gt;recent series of posts&lt;/a&gt; on this subject absolutely fascinating.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:57:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HuronBob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773546</link>	
		<description>interesting....  thanks...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:04:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pantsonfire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773564</link>	
		<description>These photos are from an article featured in last month&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Atlantic&lt;/em&gt;. The article was fascinating, and left me with a much different impression of life in China. It&apos;s a great read if you can find a copy. Also, PBS Independent Lens filmed an amazing documentary called &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7722357401716915348&amp;q=china+blue&amp;total=1446&amp;start=0&amp;num=10&amp;so=0&amp;type=search&amp;plindex=2&quot;&gt;China Blue&lt;/a&gt; that gives you an even deeper look into life as a Chinese factory worker.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:13:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: exogenous</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773586</link>	
		<description>Great link, simonw.  It&apos;s interesting how the quantities and costs alter where they draw the line between using humans and using automation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:24:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: allkindsoftime</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773640</link>	
		<description>Cool, thanks.  Especially liked the brief part on the port itself - 1 container ship per second for the whole year - incredible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:53:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nasreddin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773693</link>	
		<description>Wow, great post indeed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:25:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sluglicker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773715</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8425500516214616477&amp;q=chinese+factory&amp;total=741&amp;start=10&amp;num=10&amp;so=0&amp;type=search&amp;plindex=6&quot;&gt;A more accurate view of a factory in China.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:36:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: photoslob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773752</link>	
		<description>Sluglicker - dead on. It&apos;s scary how despensible people are in the factories of south China. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bobcroslin.com/shenzhen/&quot;&gt;Shenzhen - a fascinating shit-hole.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;Self-linky&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:01:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: diastematic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773758</link>	
		<description>Great article! I actually have a spare copy of the print version (entire magazine)...if any of ya&apos;s wants my dead-tree copy, e me: diastematic ayut yahoo dot com.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:05:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomasthefirst</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773811</link>	
		<description>Wow - that is intense. I am sitting here looking at everything digital in my room, and realizing the most of it probably came from factories like these.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:43:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elpapacito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773837</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;allkindsoftime&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773640&apos;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;1 container ship per second for the whole year - incredible.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

&quot;One container is shipped&quot;...can&apos;t be a container ship :) . There are 31536000 seconds in a 365 days year , which means loading 86400 containers a day or 3600 containers loaded in a hour. With 20 cranes doing the job, at 180 containers an hour that means one every 3 minute per crane. I wonder how many teu cranes are operating 24h in Shenzhen port.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:06:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773888</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&apos;s scary how despensible people are in the factories of south China.&lt;/i&gt;

Peasants are dispensable everywhere in China. Working in a factory is in many ways better than the traditional life of a peasant and it gives them the opportunity to get ahead for their children&apos;s sake to break the cycle of poverty. Given a choice the girls would rather a factory worker. One step forward, in a generation or two there will be more improvements (assuming they can get rid of the kleptocracy communists).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:47:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: virga</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773901</link>	
		<description>good post. i remember seeing a documentary at full frame that was made from the polar opposite perspective, which showed a decisively different view. this was a nice cursory view of it all, without getting into the sheer...heartbreak of these factories.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:58:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mullingitover</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773912</link>	
		<description>I seem to recall that in World War II, the deciding factor in the United States&apos; victory was our domestic manufacturing base. Given that this is now gone, and China dominates this space, I have to wonder: will we be speaking Mandarin or Cantonese following World War III?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:07:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KokuRyu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774040</link>	
		<description>WWII was fought with tanks and airplanes. On the modern battlefield, tanks and airplanes are basically useless (Iraq), or, if two sides go to war using conventional forces, it&apos;s not a matter of increasing industrial capacity to make up for destroyed hardware. The side that runs out of tanks first resorts to nuclear weapons. Following WWIII, there won&apos;t even be a need for language.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:45:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joelf</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774069</link>	
		<description>good post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:08:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bwg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774101</link>	
		<description>060;nitpick062; sam&lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;rai? 060;/nitpick062;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:30:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bwg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774102</link>	
		<description>grrrrrrrrrr.................</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:30:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tomplus2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774118</link>	
		<description>pallet:  &#712;pa-l&#601;t</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:46:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MapGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774148</link>	
		<description>I think he meant TEU&apos;s or one 20ft container shipped every second.  A ship a second does not sound accurate, actually it sounds retarded.  The port of Shenzhen is not yet at 31 million plus TEU&apos;s much less ships leaving the harbor.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:09:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: niccolo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774161</link>	
		<description>Good post. Interesting</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:25:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KokuRyu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774172</link>	
		<description>I think it said a container a second.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:34:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bystander</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774415</link>	
		<description>If anyone could scan a copy of the article and email it, I would be grateful. There isn&apos;t an online only subscription option.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:18:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wander</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774441</link>	
		<description>photoslob: those pictures are excellent. Thanks for posting them. 

pantsonfire: you beat me to the China Blue link. I watched it recently and thought about making it an FPP, but figured that would lead to it being taken off of google video post haste, so I decided to wait until I could post it as a relevant comment somewhere. Glad someone did, it&apos;s an excellent film. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/chinablue/&quot;&gt;film&apos;s website&lt;/a&gt; has a lot more information about the film, and how it had to be remade two or three times. There is lots of other information and is a pretty interesting read in general. 

Another very good article is from National Geographic about China&apos;s boomtowns, factory towns that spring up on undeveloped land or &quot;bought out&quot; farmland where the previous owners were paid less than the land was worth and essentially forced to move. It also profiles a few of the various people involved in a factory. There&apos;s much more to it than that, and it&apos;s something you don&apos;t really get to read about too often, or in depth, in other places. Don&apos;t forget to check out the pictures, too. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0706/feature4/index.html&quot;&gt;China&apos;s Instant Cities.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:52:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: acro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1774930</link>	
		<description>simonw... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/63164/Made-in-China#1773535&quot;&gt;that was a great link, thanks. &lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bunniestudios.com&quot;&gt;(Bunniestudios.com)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:34:48 -0800</pubDate>
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