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	<title>Comments on: Mesterinde Karen Larsdatter</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:21:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Mesterinde Karen Larsdatter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.larsdatter.com/&quot;&gt;Mesterinde Karen Larsdatter&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:53:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hama7</dc:creator>		<category>Mesterinde</category>		<category>Karen</category>		<category>Larsdatter</category>		<category>Material</category>		<category>Culture</category>		<category>Middle</category>		<category>Ages</category>		<category>Renaissance</category>
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		<title>By: qwip</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780809</link>	
		<description>OK, what is the deal with the non-explanatory one link posts? If it is this esoteric, then at least add a [more inside].

Sheesh.

Oh, and this link [&lt;i&gt;put an appropriate remark here&lt;/i&gt;].</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:21:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Burhanistan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780823</link>	
		<description>stumbleupon much?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:40:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cortex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780825</link>	
		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.larsdatter.com/sitemap.htm&quot;&gt;sitemap&lt;/a&gt; gives a good sense of the scope of this collection, and that&apos;s what it is: a tremendous, wonderful collection of, as the front page says, &quot;Material culture of the Middle Ages and Renaissance&quot;.

Just the page on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.larsdatter.com/games.htm&quot;&gt;games&lt;/a&gt; is stunning&amp;mdash;everything from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anno1476.de/5_alltag/spiel_und_spass/trictrac.html&quot;&gt;ancient ur-Backgammon boards&lt;/a&gt; to illuminations of &lt;a href=&quot;http://classes.bnf.fr/echecs/grand/3_01.htm&quot;&gt;King Arthur at chess&lt;/a&gt;.

I&apos;m glad it&apos;s Saturday.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:43:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cortex</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cortex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780827</link>	
		<description>(Though I&apos;m bummed as hell that the &quot;Art History of Cheating&quot; link on that Games page is dead; the &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20060212134359/http://cardshark.fm/art_frs.shtml&quot;&gt;wayback&lt;/a&gt; archive doesn&apos;t have the images, which kind of defeats the purpose.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:45:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cortex</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sciurus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780858</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;OK, what is the deal with the non-explanatory one link posts?&lt;/em&gt;

They&apos;ve been around as long as the site has been around, that&apos;s the deal with them. So deal. Deal?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:51:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780859</link>	
		<description>No musical instruments, though? Drag.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:56:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780884</link>	
		<description>I love the history of ordinary objects. Thanks, hama7; this is a neat collection. Seems to be aimed primarily at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.larsdatter.com/ten_things.htm&quot;&gt;SCA participants&lt;/a&gt;; the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.larsdatter.com/strawhats.htm&quot;&gt;Straw Hats&lt;/a&gt; page starts by addressing whether or not straw hats are proper period wear.

(flapjax, there are links to musical instruments &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.larsdatter.com/musicians.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:42:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780904</link>	
		<description>Hey, thanks mediareport!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:11:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: qwip</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780905</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;They&apos;ve been around as long as the site has been around, that&apos;s the deal with them. So deal. Deal?&lt;/i&gt;

No. Nope. Not gonna. Can&apos;t make me.

&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Although, to be fair I should have said &quot;&lt;i&gt;non-self-explanatory&lt;/i&gt; one link posts&quot;. I&apos;m good with the ones that need no introduction (like Mel Torme, or &quot;Jazz Hands&quot;). Cortex did a good job of giving it some context. Thanks for that. So, belatedly, what is the deal with the non-self-explanatory one link posts that lack any context?&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:15:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cortex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780908</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;The deal is that hama7 has been making just &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/activity/14405/posts/mefi/&quot;&gt;really superlative&lt;/a&gt; posts of that sort for a while now.  I&apos;m positive he&apos;s not the only one to ever do it, of course; if it weren&apos;t Saturday night, I&apos;d email pb and ask him to run a quick query for link-only FPPs.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:23:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cortex</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: qwip</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1780915</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;I stand by my original assertion that this particular one-linker was less than superlative, previous post being what they may. And, unfortunately I will not be able to continue my support for this position in future posts, as the font is becoming, frankly, just too darn small&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:34:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1781010</link>	
		<description>Awesome post hama7, What a treasure trove! 

Who knew that there were &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clevelandart.org/exhibcef/burgundy/html/5048531.html&quot;&gt;table fountains&lt;/a&gt; in the Middle Ages?

And this&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.khm.at/system2E.html?/staticE/page514.html&quot;&gt; automaton musical ship for the dining table&lt;/a&gt; is incredible (it&apos;s also from one of my favorite museums on the planet, the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna).

ahhh&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.khm.at/system2E.html?/staticE/page514.html&quot;&gt; the blue of this dragon dish with lever&lt;/a&gt;.

A little more about Mesterinde Karen Larsdatter: &quot;Elements of material culture of the Middle Ages and Renaissance, including representations in period artwork

A rather grandiose title for what are essentially just pages of links to pictures that help give an understanding of the evolution of a sort of object within the medieval/Renaissance context, and what sorts of people used which sorts of things. Some of these are more costume history and surveys of occupational dress.

Most of these webpages use the SCA cut-off date of A.D. 1600.&quot; 

An i&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.larsdatter.com/index.htm&quot;&gt;ndex page&lt;/a&gt;, which is quite thorough.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.larsdatter.com/gifts/index.htm&quot;&gt;New Year&apos;s Gifts for Queen Elizabeth&lt;/a&gt; are so interesting to read. This site just goes on and on and on...what a marvelous labyrinth.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:50:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1781166</link>	
		<description>The link for the wonderful dragon dish with lever with its beautiful blue, should be&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kunsthistorischesmuseum.at/system2E.html?/staticE/page670.html&quot;&gt; this&lt;/a&gt;. 

&quot;This magnificent dish displays a continuity between the work of the stone carver and the goldsmith. The result is a work of threatening fantasy: a dragon with glowing ruby eyes extending his fins along his raised and arched neck; the beast seems ready to strike. Wings stretched forward span the back of the vessel. The dragon body continues through the base of the dish and separates into winding finned legs. The dragon motif is characteristic of the Miseroni workshop. Abstract ornament and the mask under the lever make the demonic beast grotesque ornamentalism. This piece was owned by Rudolf II.&quot;

Exploring this wonderful site, it just gets better and better. Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:40:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: qwip</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1781435</link>	
		<description>OK, back to the big font.

I just want to say that both &lt;b&gt;cortex&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;nickyskye&lt;/b&gt; are making my point perfectly. The site is good, the one-linky approach is less than good. Adding a little context to a link and fleshing it out with the excitement that members find in this stuff is what I think makes MetaFilter wonderful.

I just think that the obscure links with no nothin&apos; are done to push an aesthetic that falls flat more than it works. It should, like Vegemite, but used sparingly.

I just wanted to say this, as I feared this was starting to look like I had a problem with the linked site and not on the method to get there.

I only make a big deal about it because the stuff &lt;b&gt;nickyskye&lt;/b&gt; wrote is what makes people get excited about new and unfound things. Obviously it wasn&apos;t that hard as it was done in a comment from someone who is just reading the original link. Original posters could learn a thing or two from that approach.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:52:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cortex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1781486</link>	
		<description>I hear you, qwip, but this isn&apos;t the place for it.  I like to think of the small tags in this context as a sort of library whisper, an admission that maybe this isn&apos;t the place to talk about it, etc.  Ongoing format gripes live in Metatalk, not the thread.

Also, check out these &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fundacionjakober.org/iconos/hasburgs/page1/bigs/nins1.htm&quot;&gt;freaky little bastards&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:16:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cortex</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1781594</link>	
		<description>qwip, Just wanted to pipe up and say how much I enjoy hama7&apos;s posting style. It&apos;s crisp, bold and requires the person looking to make some effort to explore the link on their own. Noting this now, I will be certain to check out hama7&apos;s posts both in the past and in the future as understated brilliance.

(and thanks for the kind words)

MetaFilter accommodates a lot of different styles and tastes and I like that.

Can&apos;t help wondering if Peacay has seen this site hama7 linked? It seems right up his alley. *waving at Peacay* come and have a look at this awesomeness!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:00:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: qwip</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1781795</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I hear you, qwip, but this isn&apos;t the place for it.&lt;/i&gt;

Noted and accepted. Will make use of that MetaTalk page, that is all the rage these days, in future.

&lt;small&gt;&lt;i&gt;Hugs&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:17:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cortex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1781926</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://racer.kb.nl/pregvn/MIMI/MIMI_78D38/MIMI_78D38_DL1_269V_INIT.JPG&quot;&gt;Hugs!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:26:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cortex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1801230</link>	
		<description>Hey!  I just got an email from the person responsible for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://cardshark.us/art_frs.shtml&quot;&gt;Art History of Cheating&lt;/a&gt; link whose demise I was bemoaning: it is working again!  Rock on!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:56:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cortex</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1801938</link>	
		<description>Jeez you&apos;re fast. I just had a convo with Karen (I&apos;d never seen this thread) and she pointed it out and also the fact that the cheating site was fixed. So I came here to say so and now my thunder has been rent asunder. *sigh* Way of the world.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:33:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cortex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1801956</link>	
		<description>Like lightning!  Ka-POW!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:47:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63350/Mesterinde-Karen-Larsdatter#1801970</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Bloody la de dah superheroes and their own trademark sound affects. Pfft!, I say.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:07:25 -0800</pubDate>
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