Subscribe"Bey turned himself in to police later that year after he was accused of having sex with a 15-year-old girl two decades earlier. The victim, then 36, told police she had had sex with Bey in 1981, when she was 15, and had given birth to his child the next year. DNA evidence confirmed that Bey was the father of the woman's child.And from the fourth link is this Oakland Tribune article:
Barely four months after Bey died of colon cancer, his hand-picked successor to run the bakery chain and other businesses disappeared. Six months later, authorities found Waajid Aljawwaad's decomposing body near a trail in the city's foothills."
"A prominent Muslim leader was jailed Thursday pending $1 million bail after being charged with sexually preying on young girls over a period of nearly 20 years....Bey stood mutely, his hands clasped in front of him, as Hymer arraigned him on the 27 felony sex crime counts Ortega presented in paperwork amending the original charges in the case."Suggestion -- next time read the linked articles before commenting in a thread.
"The attorney for Oakland Post editor Paul Cobb told NBC11 that slain journalist Chauncey Bailey was working on an article that would have criminally implicated Your Black Muslim Bakery, which was raided by SWAT teams Friday morning.
Attorney Walter Riley told NBC11's Jodi Hernandez that Bailey had been working for months on an article about the bakery. Riley said Cobb pulled the article and told Bailey he needed to get more information.
...Bailey, who recently was promoted to be editor of the Oakland Post, was fatally shot in downtown Oakland just before 7:30 a.m. Thursday in what appeared to be a targeted shooting, according to Oakland police spokesman Roland Holmgren.
...Police told Hernandez that investigators have evidence to link the bakery raid to the slaying, but would not say what that evidence was."
Tommy: "What just happened here?"We'll never know if Tommy and Davy truly got "hosed," since such "hosement" was only "alleged" and never settled in a court of law. Reason? No survivors from Davy & Goliath were left to testify in "Davy's Court." The clay used for that particular advertisement was recycled to reproduce Gumby and Pokey's Robot Rumpus.
Davy: "We got hosed, Tommy. We got hosed."
Goliath: "Oh, Davy."
I'll concede to you that Black Nationalism and the NOI can be different things, in the same way (I suppose) that White Nationalism and Nazism can be differentLook. I'm not a fan of black nationalism, which seems to me to be pretty reactionary and enamored of capitalism in a lot of ways. (At least, that's my understanding of it, as someone who isn't especially knowledgeable about it at all.) But to equate black nationalism and white nationalism seems profoundly fucked up to me. White nationalism is when privileged people try to use their power to maintain their privileged position in society. Black nationalism is when disadvantaged people decide that they aren't going to get anything worth having from mainstream society and that they will have to carve out their own autonomous space in which they can live with dignity. The former attempts to uphold a fundamentally white-supremacist power structure, and the latter attempts to figure out a way to live outside of that white-supremacist power structure. To equate them is to basically act as if structural racism doesn't matter. And it does, in all sorts of profound ways.
I believe nothing is served by these LOLZ-Islam accusations.
Which LOLZ-Islam accusations are these? I ask because it seems to be a recent trend to drop into a thread and accuse posters of LOL- Something-or-other, whether it actually exists or not. Perhaps whatever you're referring to has been deleted already, but I don't see anyone here accusing Bey of being a Bad Man Because He Is Islamic.
No offense, Craichead, but that's not exactly reality, that's wishful thinking born of American Studies 101. Despite any Peggy-McIntosh nostrums about Invisible Privilege, most of the poor people in this country are white, and most of the people who partake in these stupid racial crusades are poor, politically disenfranchised and lacking education, and laboring under a persecution complex. It's hard to acknowledge this if you live in a prosperous city like San Francisco or Cambridge, but don't assume that whites everywhere share in that lifestyle. The disparity in educational and economic resources available to a white man born in trailer-park Kansas or South Carolina and a black man born in Boston, NY, or San Fran is nontrivial, and class disparity has historically been the wellspring of racist sentiments.This is silly. By every single measure, black people in America are poorer than white people. They're more likely to be poor. (25% of black people and 8.3% of white people were poor in 2005, according to the census bureau.) Once poor, they're more likely to stay that way. Black people are more likely to be extremely poor than white people, which is to say to have incomes under 50% of the poverty level. (4.4% of white people are in the "extremely poor" category, whereas 11.5% of black people are.) Non-poor black people have, on average, less wealth and are therefore more vulnerable to becoming poor if they lose their jobs, become sick, etc. Non-poor black people are much more likely than non-poor white people to live in close proximity to poor people and to have poor friends and relatives, and therefore to be affected by the problems caused by poverty. It is true that there are more poor white people than poor black people in America, because there are many more white people than black people in America. But that does not offset the existence of structural racism or of the economic disparities that it causes.
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