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		<title>Oh Noes! The dreaded #REF error!</title>
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		<description>In the world of conversation killers, talking about Excel to the average person ranks up there with the best. At the same time, there is always a chance that you wish you could have that conversation at work when it gets down to the wire. Even as a pro, you might need that brush up on 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://home.pacbell.net/beban/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Array Functions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.decisionmodels.com/calcsecrets.htm&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;calculation tricks&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mindspring.com/~tflynn/excelvba.html&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt; VBA examples&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or some examples from one of the 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.contextures.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;well known authors on Excel&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. There is also no shortage of people who dedicate their working lives to this arcane program and are more than willing to assist others for free by posting solved issues on their websites. People like 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;David McRitchie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ozgrid.com&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;OzGrid&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.appspro.com/Tips/Tips_And_Tricks.htm&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rob Bovey&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rondebruin.nl/tips.htm&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ron de Bruin&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.j-walk.com/ss/excel/index.htm&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;John Walkenbach&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailydoseofexcel.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dick Kusleika&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.exceltip.com/category.html&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Joseph Rubin&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cpearson.com/Excel/ExcelPages.aspx&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chip Pearson&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Or if you just want to be a Debbie Downer at the next party, just take page from any of the following, memorize it. and recite it when faced with that nudge you don&apos;t want to talk to: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://members.chello.nl/jvolk/keepitcool/index.html&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Excel Support&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://peltiertech.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jon Peltier&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://puremis.net/excel/tips.shtml&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Colo&apos;s Junk Room&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://scriptorium.serve-it.nl/environments.php?eid=1&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Scriptorium&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.andrewsexceltips.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Andrew&apos;s Excel Tips&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.andypope.info/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Andy Pope&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anthony-vba.kefra.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Anthony&apos;s VBA Page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beyondtechnology.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rodney Powell&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emailoffice.com/excel/arrays-bobumlas.html&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Array Formulas&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erlandsendata.no/english/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Erlandsen Data Consulting&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.excel-it.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Excel-it&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.exceluser.com/index.htm&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;ExcelUser&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jkp-ads.com/Download.asp&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;JKP&apos;s Excel Page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lacher.com/toc/tutvba1.htm&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;John Lacher&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/index.html&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;McGimpsey&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mrexcel.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bill Jelen&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oaltd.co.uk/MVP/Default.htm&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Stephen Bullen&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tushar-mehta.com/excel/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tushar Mehta&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vbusers.com/home.asp&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;VBusers.com&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vertex42.com/ExcelLinks/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Excel Nexus&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xl-logic.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Excel Logic Page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://xl.barasch.com/&quot; _top&gt;&lt;b&gt;Anthoney Does Excel&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  It&apos;s a fast and easy way to ward off lounge lizards.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:13:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gwint</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804889</link>	
		<description>Yes, yes, but can I play Break Out? Oh, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.excelgames.org/breakout.asp&quot;&gt;yes I can&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryvar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804890</link>	
		<description>Sadly, thank you for this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:18:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lampshade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804892</link>	
		<description>
&lt;em&gt;Sadly, thank you for this.&lt;/em&gt;

Sadly, you are welcome. The crazy part is I am the nudge that people try to get away from, but in this case, they can&apos;t.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:22:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804893</link>	
		<description>Oh Noes is right; this brings back the nightmares of my previous life as a spreadsheet jockey.  &quot;What rate of return would we need to get that project approved sir?  No, problem, let me just play with a few of the assumptions in the model.&quot;  We also got to do some cool things like program a heat balance into a spreadsheet, complete with steam tables etc.  Good geeky fun it was.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:22:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drhydro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804895</link>	
		<description>Or, an &lt;strong&gt;excel&lt;/strong&gt;lent set of linkies to allow one to &lt;strong&gt;excel&lt;/strong&gt; at an &lt;strong&gt;accelerated&lt;/strong&gt; pace....
ooh, breakout!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:26:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: robocop is bleeding</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804896</link>	
		<description>Awesome. I&apos;ve been converting 20 years worth of by-hand accounting to Excel and this stuff will save me a lot of googling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:27:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thatwhichfalls</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804899</link>	
		<description>Just to add a link - free financial spreadsheets from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.exinfm.com/free_spreadsheets.html&quot;&gt;Matt H. Evans&lt;/a&gt;.

Peltier has a macro I&apos;ve used a lot to switch x and y axes on an xy scatter chart &lt;a href=&quot;http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/axes.html#SwitchXY&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; - it&apos;s awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:33:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cranberry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804902</link>	
		<description> Excel: the site that looks like someone already made a chart on it. 
/Word and Quicken user</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:37:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stirfry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804903</link>	
		<description>Does Excel have a &quot;more inside&quot; option?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:37:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stirfry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804905</link>	
		<description>Apologies for the snark. I&apos;m a Debbie Downer .</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:39:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nowonmai</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804909</link>	
		<description>Which one of these pages will tell me how, when building a formula, to use the numerical value in the cell I click on and not a reference to the cell?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:48:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lampshade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804910</link>	
		<description>If anyone wants, I have an HTML file with jus the links. May be a little easier than hitting all the add bookmark a billion times.

Just email me. Address in profile.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:52:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804915</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&apos;s a fast and easy way to ward off lounge lizards.&lt;/i&gt;

So this, then, is probably something John Lurie should be aware of.

BTW, lampshade, I&apos;d also say that taking up so much blue with those line breaks isn&apos;t very considerate of other FPPers here. Just something to keep in mind for the future, perhaps...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:57:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lampshade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804919</link>	
		<description>On second thought about the bookmarks.

Actually, better than email, just &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.etameeffoc.com/excel/excel.html&quot; _new&gt;click here&lt;/a&gt; and save the page.


And for all the Line Debbie Downers, email matt. It is two freaking lines.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:07:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804920</link>	
		<description>And should you feel like using an open source alternative, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openofficetips.com/&quot;&gt;OpenOffice Calc Tips blog&lt;/a&gt; is full of delightful reading.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:13:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ericb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804923</link>	
		<description>Do I need own Excel&lt;sup&gt;&#174;&lt;/sup&gt; to understand this? ; )</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:15:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cortex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804935</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;[Cleaned up post spacing a little.  lampshade, next time throw the second paragraph inside, neh?]&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:35:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804936</link>	
		<description>I personally use Excel to tell me when I need to buy &lt;a href=&quot;http://achewood.com/?date=05082002&quot;&gt;eggs and milk&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:38:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mattoxic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804938</link>	
		<description>Do I need own Excel&#174; to understand this? ; )

Why ericb, no you don&apos;t need Excel.

If you have a google account, you can use this... &lt;a href=&quot;http://spreadsheets.google.com&quot;&gt;http://spreadsheets.google.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:40:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lampshade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804943</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;[Cleaned up post spacing a little. lampshade, next time throw the second paragraph inside, neh?]&lt;/em&gt;

No prob. And that is all that needs to be said. Tanx!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:48:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tehanu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804946</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;lampshade&lt;/b&gt;, thanks for the links. I&apos;m sure they&apos;ll be useful during a future moment of Excel confusion.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:53:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: faux ami</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804964</link>	
		<description>These links look great.  Hey, has anyone here worked on Access - what do you think of it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:26:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thrakintosh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804972</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;These links look great. Hey, has anyone here worked on Access - what do you think of it?&lt;/em&gt;

I have. It was madness. Then I found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filemaker.com&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fullcityconsulting.com&quot;&gt;A career&lt;/a&gt; followed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:39:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: neuron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804990</link>	
		<description>Excel is for sissies. I use Visicalc.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:26:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>neuron</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1804999</link>	
		<description>talking to me about excel will earn you a good look at my back and tail.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:40:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grouse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805001</link>	
		<description>I reimplemented sequence alignment, a commonly-used computational biology algorithm &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~hoffman/software/galaxi/galaxi.xls&quot;&gt;in Excel&lt;/a&gt; (self-link). It makes a fun teaching tool. Excel&apos;s really just a functional programming language at heart.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:41:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: X4ster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805005</link>	
		<description>Is there a name for us Excel geeks? Excelites? Excelons?

&lt;b&gt;thrakintosh, &lt;/b&gt; Yes, Filemaker is the cure for Access madness.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:57:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>X4ster</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: lampshade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805008</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Excel&apos;s really just a functional programming language at heart.&lt;/em&gt;

That is what alof people miss about the app - that is basically a development tool. If used like (as mentioned earlier) like Visicalc, it really shines. Trying to make like Access or FMP for database and the shortcomings really show. 

OTOH, trying to do a data scrub with Access or FMP is a nightmare.

The right tool for the job rule applies</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:00:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lampshade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805010</link>	
		<description>
&lt;em&gt;Is there a name for us Excel geeks? Excelites? Excelons?&lt;/em&gt;

I put down &quot;Excel Freak&quot; on freelance job apps. Never had an HR person dispute it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:01:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Oy&#xe9;ah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805013</link>	
		<description>Excel is where I drew the line. I realized that I would not ever want a job, where I had to use this. Most people who use it casually, can&apos;t make a usable phone and email list. 

Excel is not for me, 
No no
Excel is not for me. 
Wheeeee. 
I can&apos;t 
I won&apos;t
I can&apos;t 
I won&apos;t 
Excel is not for me,
Wheee.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:10:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oy&#xe9;ah</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: paduasoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805020</link>	
		<description>Thanks for this, lampshade, unfortunately I too find it fascinating.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:34:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: X4ster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805042</link>	
		<description>OK Excleperts, 
I just posted a question to AskMifi. I need some advice on how to build a searchable data table or database to locate records within fields from a magazine contents list. First problem is converting seventy year old printed docs to text. Second step is integrating text to data table. Anybody have any good ideas?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:20:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>X4ster</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: imperium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805265</link>	
		<description>32 comments, but 75 people favourited it. 

Some of them is like me. We hates it, but we knows how useful tips for it may be coming when the deadline she approacheth.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:42:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>imperium</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: chuckdarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805268</link>	
		<description>Can&apos;t get overlords to spring for all the shit I need in order to build a proper intranet, so I was forced to use a shared google spreadsheet... it&apos;s a bit sticky but it works, even with eight users editing it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:49:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anthill</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805386</link>	
		<description>No &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mrexcel.com/board2/index.php&quot;&gt;MrExcel?&lt;/a&gt; Their forums always seem to help me...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:43:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>anthill</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: evening</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1805449</link>	
		<description>Oooh, I&apos;m always looking for new Excel outlets for work. Thank you

I used to fear Excel, but then I was forced to use it and the more I used it the easier it got, and now I really like working in it.  My favorite is comparing and synching up two different files...all sorts of fun tricks to get that done.

Yes, I&apos;m pathetic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:56:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>evening</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mightshould</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1806037</link>	
		<description>OK, I added this to favorites.  Have nothing useful to add other than thanks - I&apos;m very certain that I&apos;ll need this info sometime....I&apos;m into simple excel work, nothing too unusual or exotic.  It&apos;s a good tool for calculations, (course, I like to use it to write letters in sometimes too because of the control it gives for layout when you&apos;ve both text and numbers - easier than InDesign.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:59:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mightshould</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: EndsOfInvention</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1806506</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sadly, thank you for this.&lt;/em&gt;

What he said.  *sigh*</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:10:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EndsOfInvention</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: EndsOfInvention</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1806511</link>	
		<description>Ironically I won&apos;t be able to actually use these sites for work since the internet filter blocks MeFi (but not MeTa, bizarrely, so I can still get my flameout/deletion-bitching fill).  I guess I could email myself the links or something.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:14:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EndsOfInvention</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: lampshade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1806586</link>	
		<description>EOI, email yourself this link. I put all the sites there for convenience. You can also save as an html file. There is notthing else at the site. I just have it around for stuff like this.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.etameeffoc.com/excel/excel.html&quot;&gt;www.etameeffoc.com/excel/excel.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:36:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lampshade</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: EndsOfInvention</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1807514</link>	
		<description>Oh sweet, thanks lampshade.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:05:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EndsOfInvention</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/63944/Oh-Noes-The-dreaded-REF-error#1808952</link>	
		<description>=AWESOME(post,63944)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:01:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mwhybark</dc:creator>
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