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The proper way to deal with a KKK march (Do not click link while drinking liquids) With all the doom and gloom in the news these days, I was beginning to think there was nothing to be done to make things better. I was proven wrong. By clowns.
posted by Enron Hubbard (90 comments total) 43 users marked this as a favorite

 
Unbelievable.

Best post on the internets 2.0 in years.
posted by smackwich at 8:27 AM on August 30, 2007


I could swear there was a link on MeFi a year or two ago about some black activist using clowns to battle the KKK back in the 50s.
posted by DU at 8:27 AM on August 30, 2007


Awesome. Thanks for the post.
posted by ShadowCrash at 8:29 AM on August 30, 2007


I never thought I'd say this but...I really wish this was a YouTube link as well...any video available of the antics?

Great find.
posted by sock it to me monkey at 8:29 AM on August 30, 2007


Yeah, video would rule. Or even just some more pictures. Asploded-head Nazis would be quite a treat.
posted by DU at 8:30 AM on August 30, 2007


Positively wonderful... warms me tum tum. I would love to follow along with these people dressed as Rainbow Bright....

Think I found my calling.
posted by NotInTheBox at 8:31 AM on August 30, 2007


Oh hey, found one!
posted by DU at 8:31 AM on August 30, 2007


AWESOME!
posted by gomichild at 8:32 AM on August 30, 2007


Errr..wait. That video is from the POV of the Nazis. Ugh.
posted by DU at 8:32 AM on August 30, 2007


Great idea, but wow, that was bad writing for a "news" article.
posted by blue_beetle at 8:34 AM on August 30, 2007


I must rethink my hatred of all clowns. I guess it's outweighed by my hatred of Nazis. Who knew?
posted by Cookiebastard at 8:34 AM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


Is clowns vs Nazis the new pirates vs ninjas?
posted by GuyZero at 8:37 AM on August 30, 2007 [8 favorites]


I think I would've liked it better had the clowns been impersonating the KKK - you know, Clown Power! and so on. As it is, it seems like they're just giving them the attention that they obviously want. Instead, what if you were to set up on the other side of the street, everyone is wearing KKK robes, with rainbow-colored wigs poking out of the hood. And a big red nose poking through a hole in the front. And talk about how evil trapeze artists are or something. That would be a lot funnier and more to the point, instead of a bunch of hippies jumping around tossing flour into the air.
posted by billysumday at 8:40 AM on August 30, 2007 [3 favorites]


Nazi pirates vs ninja clowns would be AWSUM.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 8:42 AM on August 30, 2007


What the hell are you talking about, billysumday? This was brilliant! This has got to be the greatest thing to happen in the Knoxville area pretty much ever, and I say this as someone with a lot of family right around there.
posted by gurple at 8:43 AM on August 30, 2007


What happened in the June rematch, or didn't it happen?
posted by Kirth Gerson at 8:46 AM on August 30, 2007


I'll bet it was hard to tell who the real clowns were.
posted by orange swan at 8:53 AM on August 30, 2007


Creativity beats hate.

Humor has always been a weapon fanatics and fundamentalists had no defence against. All extreme and distorted belief systems can be easily kicked with laughter.

That is why political cabaret was always hunted down by people like Hitler, Stalin and Mao.

Also religions - Jesus, Mohammad and whatsoever jokes could literally kill ... and take away all the holyness ...
posted by homodigitalis at 9:01 AM on August 30, 2007 [4 favorites]


While I believe the Nazi and KKK has the right to say what they want to say, I must say that this is an awesome way to counter though.

White Flour!
posted by champthom at 9:01 AM on August 30, 2007


Wait, billysumday-- in order to fight the KKK, you should adopt the appearance and tactics of the KKK?

I can't help but think that clowns dressing up in KKK robes would have been really ghastly and confusing and not nearly as frustrating to the actual KKK'ers. The point wasn't to sit back and be the funniest, it was to to directly engage and enrage their opponent.

The most incredibly cool things happen when people completely give up on the idea of appearing cool.

*throws flour*
posted by hermitosis at 9:01 AM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


I think the protest would have been much better if all the clowns were wearing business suits and had briefcases and they marched into an office tower and spent 7 hours checking sports scores and processing insurance premiums.
posted by srboisvert at 9:04 AM on August 30, 2007 [6 favorites]


Metafilter: a bunch of hippies jumping around tossing flour into the air.
posted by Sailormom at 9:04 AM on August 30, 2007


Clowns, Nazis, Clowns, Nazis... I-I'm torn in my hate.

Maybe I'll just despise the writer of the article: "After the VNNers left in their shiny SUVs to go back to Alabama and all the other states that they were from..."
Yeah. Okay.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:05 AM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


The point wasn't to sit back and be the funniest, it was to to directly engage and enrage their opponent.

Yeah, because white supremacists hate to be engaged and enraged.

in order to fight the KKK, you should adopt the appearance and tactics of the KKK?

Yes, I think the KKK clowns should lynch people, burn down houses, and use hate speech to villify and marginalize minorities. I mean, seriously.
posted by billysumday at 9:05 AM on August 30, 2007 [2 favorites]


Great post - and I've seen it before! At the G8 summit in 2006 in Edinburgh (Scotland), Clowns messed with riot police, kissing their shields, taking the piss out of them, even rescuing a black bloc contingent from the police! (MPEG video for download) Awesome-o.
posted by yoHighness at 9:06 AM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


What a wonderful idea!

Upon further research, the murder in question was rather gruesome. In fairness to the ostensible purpose of the KKK rally, it wouldn't be the first time there was a gov't/news coverup to avoid potential race/gender controversy. Nor is it always inappropriate to bring attention to such an event or coverup to raise awareness about an important social or legal issue, as was done in the case of Matthew Shepard.

These guys haven't crossed the line between indignation and bigotry; they've never even seen it, they're so far from civil, rational discourse. The pleasure taken by the speaker in calling black people "beasts" was not just disgusting; it was rather frightening.

It also looks like there's a rather racist chain email going around about it, according to Snopes.
posted by honest knave at 9:08 AM on August 30, 2007


"I asked one KKK member how he felt about the counter-marchers. 'Quite dour,' he responded with a slight glower. One clown was quoted as saying 'If we must, we'll keep this up till the midnight hour!'

Reporting from Knoxville, this is Dwight Schauer."
posted by Terminal Verbosity at 9:15 AM on August 30, 2007 [2 favorites]


How wonderful! And how funny the Klan really only filmed the kind of counter-demonstration that they're used to.

The next step is to organize local clown response teams. How many of them can we stuff into a fire truck?

White flowers!
posted by EatTheWeak at 9:16 AM on August 30, 2007


nothing that much happens in the video though.
posted by yoHighness at 9:18 AM on August 30, 2007


“White Flour?” the clowns yelled back running in circles throwing flour in the air and raising separate letters which spelt “White Flour”.

At which point the clown contingent were arrested and jailed on suspicion of terrorism.
posted by oncogenesis at 9:23 AM on August 30, 2007 [3 favorites]


Elwood: Illinois Knoxville Nazis.
Jake: I hate Illinois Knoxville Nazis.
[proceeds to drive car through demonstration]
posted by WCityMike at 9:25 AM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


This is great!

Wife power!!
posted by goo at 9:26 AM on August 30, 2007


Great post!

billysumday, I don't know what you're so cranky about. Humor and satire have long been used to mock, defuse, and even educate. Watched any Daily Show lately?
posted by rtha at 9:29 AM on August 30, 2007


[this is magnificent]
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 9:30 AM on August 30, 2007


Yeah, Nazis have been mocked since the beginning. Behold a WWII example.
posted by schroedinger at 9:34 AM on August 30, 2007


terrific use of humor to show who the real fools are
posted by estronaut at 9:38 AM on August 30, 2007


When neo-nazis were making regular visits to town here a few years ago, the demonstrations would usually end with broken windows and occasional teargas. The baby fascists got free police escorts into and out of town while the protesters against them got arrested -- The neo-nazi organizers expected this and milked it for all it was worth. At the time I thought the only way to effectively protest them would be to have the whole crowd laughing hard at everything they did.

This is even better. Paramilitaries are willing to endure physical and verbal abuse for their cause, but this sort of public shaming goes right around their prepared emotional defenses.
posted by ardgedee at 9:41 AM on August 30, 2007


“Rhetoric does not get you anywhere, because Hitler and Mussolini are just as good at rhetoric. But if you can bring these people down with comedy, they stand no chance.” -Mel Brooks

this is very cool. Thanks for posting.
posted by SBMike at 9:42 AM on August 30, 2007 [6 favorites]


billysumday, I don't know what you're so cranky about. Humor and satire have long been used to mock, defuse, and even educate. Watched any Daily Show lately?

Obviously I wasn't nearly articulate in my first post. I'm glad that they're using humor. I understand that they are trying to be funny. What I am suggesting, though, would be, I think, a much funnier and effective approach to the same situation. Whereas this approach is direct engagement, I think it would be both more humorous and more cutting to have a simultaneous protest on the other side of the street in which you have clowns impersonating and therefore directly mocking the Nazi's. Don't even acknowledge that the white supremacists are there. Just go about the business of spewing hate speech about "elephant riders" and "those dirty trapezers" and other sorts of relatively vague circus groups. Do it while dressed as a clown who is trying to hide their identity. Talk incessantly about Clown Power, and about the Great Clown Race and so forth. People will draw the comparison themselves. And if you're funny enough, they will all line up and watch you instead of the White Supremacists. Humor is a lot funnier with a straight face, I thought everyone knew that. I mean, have you ever seen the Daily Show?
posted by billysumday at 9:45 AM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


This piece was terribly written. Which is why I will continue to hate clowns.
posted by KokuRyu at 9:49 AM on August 30, 2007


Obviously I wasn't nearly articulate in my first post.

You can say that again... (meant to say nearly articulate enough)...
posted by billysumday at 9:49 AM on August 30, 2007


I do, however, agree with SBMike and Mel Brooks.
posted by KokuRyu at 9:50 AM on August 30, 2007


Humor is a lot funnier with a straight face, I thought everyone knew that. I mean, have you ever seen the Daily Show?
posted by billysumday


Do you mean Colbert Report? Because Jon Stewart doesn't take on the demeanor of the people he mocks - he just mocks them. Colbert does a different take on it, which I don't find as funny, but that's just a personal preference thing - it clearly works, as well.
posted by rtha at 9:59 AM on August 30, 2007


Do you mean Colbert Report? Because Jon Stewart doesn't take on the demeanor of the people he mocks - he just mocks them.

Well, the correspondents make a living out of mocking people with straight faces, as if everything were deadly serious. Anyway, enough out of me. Back to the cheery huzzahs!!
posted by billysumday at 10:02 AM on August 30, 2007


This fills my heart with hope for the human race.
posted by ZenMasterThis at 10:05 AM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


About 20 years ago in D.C., the KKK marched along the avenues. I was one of the protesters. Things got heated up and the KKK changed their route. Many of them decided not to march, but to ride along a secret route to Capitol Hill.
Meanwhile, the crowd figured it out and pressed forward.
The riot squad held us back and for some strange reason,
I ended up in the front. Being a jokester, I asked the officers
if they were going to gas or bean us? They laughed. It was cool. I asked another officer if we could sneak by and borrow his gun. He laughed. It was cool. Word got out that
the Klan had shortened their speech and had left in another bus. The crowd slowly dispersed and I didn't get shot, so it was a good day.
posted by doctorschlock at 10:10 AM on August 30, 2007 [2 favorites]


Fantastic. A elegant tactic to use against hate-mongers with no sense of humor.

Though like Alvy A, I'm torn; I appreciate the actions being reported on, but I want to cause harm to the person reporting it:

It was at this point that several observers reported seeing several Klan members heads exploding in rage and they stopped trying to explain to the clowns what they wanted.


*groans*

Was this written by an over-enthusiastic child?

Clowns: 1
KKK Nazis: 0
Writer: -1
posted by quin at 10:10 AM on August 30, 2007 [2 favorites]


What I am suggesting, though, would be, I think, a much funnier and effective approach to the same situation.

There's a saying billysumday, that covers situations where somebody does something good, and someone comes along and knocks them for not being perfect. I hate that saying, so I'm not going to use it, and I don't really think that's what you're attempting to do.

What would be even better would be if people didn't wait for the KKK to show up to have a light hearted, fun, and peaceful march for unity and tolerance.

In the meantime, let's hope that this approach spreads and becomes more refined and successful in the future. But not so refined that it becomes serious, or god forbid, ironic. I think one of the basic foundations of this type of response isn't being funny, it's being silly.

You're talking about satire, which definitely has it's place, but slapstick is also an effective weapon. slipping on a banana peel is funny regardless of age, intelligence or political leanings. It's about creating a situation where you pretty much have to be a hate filled buffoon NOT to laugh.
posted by billyfleetwood at 10:13 AM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


But not so refined that it becomes serious, or god forbid, ironic.

I don't understand. There are lots of "serious" protests against the KKK - what is wrong with people sincerely protesting against hate?

As for irony, it would have two meanings in this case. One could use irony and yet still be completely earnest in their objection of the values of white supremacists. In fact, the clowns in the article are being a bit ironic in their feigned misunderstanding of the Nazis' chants.

There's a saying billysumday, that covers situations where somebody does something good, and someone comes along and knocks them for not being perfect. I hate that saying, so I'm not going to use it

Wait, don't tell me. Does it have something to do with high expectations?
posted by billysumday at 10:30 AM on August 30, 2007


Previously on Metafilter: Stetson Kennedy and “Superman vs. the KKK”. (This may have been what you were thinking of, DU.)
posted by hattifattener at 10:42 AM on August 30, 2007


Too bad this was removed. I would have liked to have seen it.
posted by wfc123 at 10:47 AM on August 30, 2007


This is awesome. Minus the writing.

Errr..wait. That video is from the POV of the Nazis. Ugh.

Yeah, ugh is right. Especially the comments from the Nazis off-camera throughout and the speech toward the end. Seems to be the only video of it on youtube though. Even a blogger who was a clown links to it.

Knoxville News Sentinel (better writing).
Photos.
Blog entry by one of the Coup Clutz Clowns.
posted by Tehanu at 10:51 AM on August 30, 2007


I can't remember where I read, or heard, the story, but I remember Molly Ivins talking (or writing) about a Klan rally at the state capital in Austin, TX. The good people of Austin reacted by lining the streets and, as one, dropping their pants and mooning the Klan members. My heart was warmed.

These clowns make me happy as well, though the writing here was pretty poor.

"Which one of you clowns wrote this copy, Dammit?!?!?"
posted by mmahaffie at 11:20 AM on August 30, 2007


Thanks for the links, Tehanu.
posted by jiawen at 11:23 AM on August 30, 2007


These clowns should be issued a medal.
posted by smackwich at 11:25 AM on August 30, 2007


Here's how the Klan got handled in the county next to mine, circa 1958:

Don't mess with the Lumbee.
posted by konolia at 11:32 AM on August 30, 2007 [7 favorites]


You know, konolia, I think this is a point we can agree on. :)
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:43 AM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


konolia, that's an awesome link, and a great story. Thanks!
posted by rtha at 11:58 AM on August 30, 2007


A while back the Klan had a rally planned in our local park. Here was the plan I cooked up:

I wanted to set up a nearby booth and collect donations, walk-a-thon style. People would pledge so much a minute for for however many minutes the KKK rally lasted, with all proceeds going to the NAACP. The longer the KKK rallied, the more money they raised for the NAACP.
posted by sourwookie at 12:04 PM on August 30, 2007 [12 favorites]


billysumday, I think you've got a great idea.
posted by desjardins at 12:25 PM on August 30, 2007


The clown response is a lovely idea, but if you look at the KKK video there, it's obvious the guy writing the article is writing halfway from his imagination of what was supposed to happen when they cooked up the plan (especially with regard to the explosion of the frustrated Klan members). The rally didn't even seem to have a "white power" chant, and if it had I'm sure they'd have altered things once they saw the opposition. It sounded far too "just like in the dream!" in the article to me, and I wasn't surprised no one could find a video.

The Klan vid is actually pretty interesting on its own, actually, just to remind you how little they care that a bunch of hippies are teasing them, and how much those sorts of things are to make us feel better, not to change their minds or anything...

Though the NAACP rally-a-thon is a pretty good idea.
posted by mdn at 12:41 PM on August 30, 2007


This made my day. In a similar act of outsmarting the Ku Klux Klan I seem to remember about 10 years ago or so, the Klan tried to organize a rally in San Antonio and the mayor paid for 100 mariachi musicians to circle their protest and play the entire time.
posted by thankyoujohnnyfever at 12:51 PM on August 30, 2007 [15 favorites]


White Flour?
posted by C17H19NO3 at 1:00 PM on August 30, 2007


gurple: best thing after UT winning the national championships, right? Knoxville's a hell of a town, full of creative weirdos. Makes perfect sense to me. I love it.
posted by absalom at 1:04 PM on August 30, 2007


This is very cool, but, as others have pointed out, so poorly written I initially thought it was an Onion-style parody.
posted by The Card Cheat at 1:29 PM on August 30, 2007


I wholeheartedly endorse this product and/or service.
posted by Skorgu at 1:54 PM on August 30, 2007


Thanks for that link, konolia! Being half Lumbee myself that really warms my heart. Of course, any example of people standing up to rascists warms my heart.
And while the article was poorly written, let's not let that overshadow the power the pure clowning.
posted by causticgnostic at 1:56 PM on August 30, 2007


Clown schmown
posted by Myeral at 3:07 PM on August 30, 2007


Clowns are interestingly used a lot for this kind of thing....the OP kinda reminded me of the antics the Clandestine Insurgent Rebel Clown Army gets into. (though more anti-war than anti-racism). Great post!
posted by samsara at 3:27 PM on August 30, 2007


¨While I believe the Nazi and KKK has the right to say what they want to say...¨

Why? You have the right to say that people should be murdered, exterminated and tortured?

That just because you misunderstand the role of melanin and culture that mass murder and oppression is acceptable?

I am sorry, but....

Too much.
posted by lerrup at 3:36 PM on August 30, 2007


Why? You have the right to say that people should be murdered, exterminated and tortured?

do you not understand the first amendment?

That just because you misunderstand the role of melanin and culture that mass murder and oppression is acceptable?

are you having trouble differentiating words and deeds? The right to free speech is guaranteed. Actions which impede other people's civil rights (as murder and oppression clearly do) are not.
posted by mdn at 3:40 PM on August 30, 2007 [3 favorites]


They have the right to speak, not the right to be taken seriously. Pretty much the right way to counter protest. Just not take them seriously at all. The NAACP fundraising thing is nifty too.
posted by Smedleyman at 3:48 PM on August 30, 2007


¨While I believe the Nazi and KKK has the right to say what they want to say...¨

Why? You have the right to say that people should be murdered, exterminated and tortured?


Actually, I do believe they should have that right, and the clowns demonstrated the best way to deal with them saying such. But when laws start restricting what anyone can say, no matter how much you might disagree, then you have started the process of letting the government decide what the rest of us cannot say. (This is the inherent danger of hate speech laws.) You can't have freedom of some speech or it isn't really freedom at all.
posted by Enron Hubbard at 4:54 PM on August 30, 2007


Even if the clowns were a bunch of western NC Earth-First! hippies, today I am proud of my State. Wife Shower? I'm in.
posted by lost_cause at 4:58 PM on August 30, 2007


Mockery is definately the second best way to deal with this sort of thing. The best was described by sourwookie. Its been succesfully used by Planned Parenthood to deal with protesters (who, oddly, protested my local PP office for a while, despite the fact that abortions are not, actually, performed there).

But mockery is good too. And fun. What they (the Klan, or whoever) wants is outrage and attention. Mocking them deflates their poor little egos.

Also, and speaking here as someone black by marriage, put me down in the "they've got a right to say it, that don't mean I have to like it or I can't mock/counterprotest/whatever" column. Restricting free speech, especially political speech, never works out well in the long run. The laws will *always* get twisted around to restrict speech you think is good.
posted by sotonohito at 5:08 PM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


Also, and speaking here as someone black by marriage

My (white) daughter is sitting here with me at the computer and wants to know if she's black by marriage (her hubby is black, and my grandson-who just spit up on her leg-is simply cute. Take that, kkknazis!)
posted by konolia at 5:15 PM on August 30, 2007


My (white) daughter is sitting here with me at the computer and wants to know if she's black by marriage

Yes. I am Jewish by marraige which means I have a Liscense To Kvetch.
posted by jonmc at 5:47 PM on August 30, 2007


You can't have freedom of some speech or it isn't really freedom at all.

This canard always comes up in these sorts of threads.

I note that Canada and Germany both have hate speech laws. I dunno about Germany, but I can strongly assert that I've yet to feel I've some sort of "false" freedom simply because neo-Nazi's can't run about publicising their idiotic spew.

Nor have we raced down a slippery slope; there does not appear to be a desire to repress other speech.

Indeed, it would seem that Canada has a lot less repression of speech than the USA, where the police and government seem overly keen to corral protestors, arrest people wearing anti-Bush t-shirts, and prevent public employees and scientists from speaking about environmental issues.

Thanks for your concern about freedom of speech, but I think I'll take what we have — an absence of hate rallies and scientists who are allowed to publish their findings — to what you have.
posted by five fresh fish at 7:05 PM on August 30, 2007 [3 favorites]


are you having trouble differentiating words and deeds? The right to free speech is guaranteed. Actions which impede other people's civil rights (as murder and oppression clearly do) are not.

I think it can be easily argued that hate rallies are an action which impede others' rights by creating an environment/atmosphere and culture of fear, hatred, distrust, and violence.

Hate speech is oppressive speech.
posted by five fresh fish at 7:08 PM on August 30, 2007 [2 favorites]


Hahahaha! That's great. : )
posted by SisterHavana at 7:21 PM on August 30, 2007




Well put, fff.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:41 PM on August 30, 2007


/always thought the best response was to ignore them...
posted by meta_eli at 9:16 PM on August 30, 2007


Hate speech is oppressive speech

Yeah, but one man's hate speech is another's political rally. Know what I mean?

I feel like this is the sort of thing that is really hard to codify in a way that doesn't rely on some form of "I know it when I see it"
posted by meta_eli at 9:19 PM on August 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


Awesome article, writer of which will shortly be receiving my medical bills for treatment of bleeding eyes and burst brain syndrome.

I hate clowns normally. These guys? Not so bad! My faith in humanity AND clownanity has been bolstered and (somewhat) restored!

Great post, great links in some of the comments, too. Thanks!
posted by perilous at 12:04 AM on August 31, 2007


"do you not understand the first amendment?"

I do, but why assume that a) it applies to me, b) just because it is part of your constitution that it is therefore correct or inviolate and c) that your country applies it anything like a consistent and non-oppressive way in any case?

In summary, what FFF said in both comments.

With respect to hate speech, there is a difference between attacking a person's political choices and attacking them for what they are.

I liked the clowns though...
posted by lerrup at 3:41 AM on August 31, 2007


"I know it when I see it"

Which is a catch-22 problem universal to government enforcement. Who decides what speech is bad?
In this case the atmosphere seemed free enough of fear such that clowns were able to ridicule the hate mongers.
QED.
This isn’t to say the free speech zones and denial of funding attacks by Bushco on scientists isn’t a problem. But curtailing free expression - at heart - creates the kind of sublimated aggression and frustration that more readily leads to acts which certainly do create a culture of fear. The KKK was initially an underground terrorist organization - the openness of their support base aside - they needed and relied upon their anonymity. Often they still do because they are committing acts of terror.
The best way to deal with terrorists is through open communication. Most terrorism stems from not being able to get any attention for whatever given cause: wrong, right or selfish.
This is not to argue the respective freedoms of whatever country to speak freely - a discussion which does have merit - but rather the mechanism of the ability to speak to the public in alleviation of violence.
Social rejection is an extraordinarially strong method of halting what might otherwise be a more capable movement.
Obviously a few idiots will proceed with their idiocy dispite a fair hearing, reasonable consideration and rejection. But you can’t limit speech based on the lowest possible denominator or extreme minority.
Silence and mystery can create a fog of mystique (using the early KKK as an example) that can attract people.
In essence - the more people hear them, understand exactly what their message is (that they intend violence based on irrational ideas of ethnicity) the smaller their support will be.
Clarity is a foolkiller.
posted by Smedleyman at 9:43 AM on August 31, 2007


(Same reasoning behind why you need to talk to your kids about drug usage rather than remaining silent. Or worse telling them it will give them ass herpes or will make them jump out of windows or other such nonsense. Falsehoods quickly become transparent and silence lends itself to mystique)
posted by Smedleyman at 9:49 AM on August 31, 2007


curtailing free expression - at heart - creates the kind of sublimated aggression and frustration that more readily leads to acts which certainly do create a culture of fear

Yah. I mean, really, we Canucks live in constant fear, what with all the curtailing of free expression.
posted by five fresh fish at 10:04 PM on August 31, 2007


love this!
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