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	<title>Comments on: Brian Dettmer Carves Books</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:06:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Brian Dettmer Carves Books</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.haydeerovirosa.com/index.php?modus_id=1&amp;page_id=44&amp;type_id=1"&gt;Brian Dettmer&lt;/a&gt; is an &lt;a href=&quot;http://dennismatthews.blogspot.com/2007/08/brian-dettmer-at-hyde-park-art-center.html&quot;&gt;artist&lt;/a&gt;/surgeon who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/watz/565958279/&quot;&gt;carves &lt;/a&gt;books into &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/watz/565954937/&quot;&gt;intricate&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/watz/565938495/&quot;&gt;astonishing &lt;/a&gt;&amp;amp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/watz/565571346/&quot;&gt;precise &lt;/a&gt;new &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/watz/565948125/&quot;&gt;pieces &lt;/a&gt;of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/watz/565958279/in/set-72157601254438818/&quot;&gt;art&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:06:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonson</dc:creator>		<category>briandettmer</category>		<category>art</category>		<category>papercraft</category>		<category>carving</category>		<category>sculpture</category>		<category>books</category>
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		<title>By: jonson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820049</link>	
		<description>Found &lt;a href=&quot;http://notcot.org&quot;&gt;via&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: Zinger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820070</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t know whether to be intrigued or horrified. Interesting concept, very good execution, but man, those are &lt;em&gt;books&lt;/em&gt; he&apos;s slicing up.

&lt;small&gt;/vivid childhood memories of stern librarians promising hellfire for cracked spines and turned down corners&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:16:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Zinger</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Terminal Verbosity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820080</link>	
		<description>I saw this a week ago and thought of posting it, but the idea of what he&apos;s doing to these books really does disturb me. &lt;small&gt;Yes I know I have a problem.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:22:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jacquilynne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820085</link>	
		<description>Cool!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:25:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820086</link>	
		<description>Okay. That stuff&apos;s just plain cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:26:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kittens for breakfast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820090</link>	
		<description>If I could be assured that he was only cutting up, say, Dan Brown novels or something, I would appreciate this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:29:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jacquilynne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820097</link>	
		<description>You know, I don&apos;t quite understand the &apos;OMG! Ruining books&apos; reaction, whether to people writing marginalia or making art. I like and value books, but assuming he&apos;s not cutting up a Shakespeare first folio, or something slightly less rare but old and out of print, well, who cares? 

I&apos;ve held some lovely books in my time, and admired the bindings and the cloth covers and the artistry of the package--I even fell in love with the paper they used in the A format bindings of Harry Potter paperbacks in Canada (since replaced with much less interesting paper for the larger, later books). But the real value of books is in the words and images they contain. And those can be reprinted without devaluing the original.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:39:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OmieWise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820099</link>	
		<description>Wow, that&apos;s amazing.  

I&apos;m not sure what the problem is with doing this.  I love books and think of them and treat them pretty reverently, but they&apos;re almost all mass produced objects.  Dettmer is creating unique artworks from those mass produced things, and, since he&apos;s using just one of the many copies of any given book, isn&apos;t restricting anyone else&apos;s ability to read the title in question.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:39:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: carsonb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820102</link>	
		<description>Pretty sweet. Is he painting on the surface he&apos;s creating within the book, or are the colors and pictures illustrations saved/carved out from pages within? 
&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Dammit, jonson, you&apos;ve gotta stop giving away those vias.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:45:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blaneyphoto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820105</link>	
		<description>Weird stuff, for sure.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:49:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brneyedgrl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820115</link>	
		<description>as a librarian, I&apos;m also disturbed by the destruction of books...on the other hand, we weed out books all the time...most people would be surprised what goes out the backdoor to the trashcan.  Anyone who creats like this guy, should have his medium.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:00:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: malaprohibita</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820120</link>	
		<description>beautiful stuff.  
&lt;small&gt;I could see some knucklehead trying to sue him for some copyright violation.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:04:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820137</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Dammit, jonson, you&apos;ve gotta stop giving away those vias.&lt;/em&gt;

You&apos;re probably only kidding, but seriously, 99% of the stuff I link to here comes from like five sources (NotCot, Bifurcated Rivets, Ectomo.com, and a couple others).  Pretty soon anyone who likes the things I like will have already seen them, and then how will I feed my insatiable hunger for favorites???</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:19:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: substrate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820161</link>	
		<description>Pretty cool. I don&apos;t cringe at all that he&apos;s carving up books. He&apos;s not borrowing them from the library and returning them mangled. He doesn&apos;t have a night time career of robbing museums of human history for priceless manuscripts. Books are mass produced, even hard covers are for the most part only in the 10&apos;s of dollars.

Actually, the last time I cringed with regards to books was talking with my sister. Intelligent and bright, very artistic... hasn&apos;t read a book in 15 years other than a couple of parenting books.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:49:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blacklite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820163</link>	
		<description>These are beautiful. I&apos;m not worried about the books. It&apos;s not like he&apos;s shitting on them; he&apos;s making new representations of their contents.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:49:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bluishorange</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820178</link>	
		<description>I saw an exhibit of his work at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imss.org/anatgall/dettmercleary.htm&quot;&gt;International Museum of Surgical Science&lt;/a&gt; in Chicago this spring, and I really enjoyed it, especially the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/bluishorange/459544823/&quot;&gt;skeleton made of melted cassette tapes&lt;/a&gt;.  &amp;lt;--Flickr self-link

Something tells me that the melting of Cheap Trick cassettes doesn&apos;t elicit the same outrage as the carving of books.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:59:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: troubles</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820181</link>	
		<description> I remember times I used to be appalled at the idea of throwing out/recycling books...even terrible ones.  It was actually a librarian friend that helped me see things differently, talking about &apos;weeding out&apos; the old outdated books to keep the library more relevant and healthy. I think we ascribe some kind of sacredness to them, which is interesting... i&apos;m not totally sure why. 

well, in any case, beautiful art.  Also, I imagine most people won&apos;t be as offended by his skull made of what seems to be &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/omnibrain/upload/2007/04/cassette_tape_skull.jpg&quot;&gt;old heavy metal audiotapes.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:05:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: troubles</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820187</link>	
		<description>ah, there i go being an echo</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:11:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Atom Eyes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820215</link>	
		<description>They ruined perfectly good trees to make the perfectly good books this guy ruined to make his perfectly good art.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:41:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HappyHippo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820249</link>	
		<description>Great post! and a totally bitchin&apos; link! 
Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:14:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Malor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820293</link>	
		<description>I realize it&apos;s irrational, but to me books are important, especially hardcover ones.  Even though it&apos;s just one of many copies, I&apos;ve been deeply conditioned to believe that every single one is a treasure, to be loved and respected.... especially the old ones, as many of these probably are, judging from what I can see of the bindings. 

This guy&apos;s art is wonderful, but I&apos;m very conflicted in looking at it; I wish he&apos;d chosen a different medium.  Those are old books he&apos;s killing, ones from when bookbinders took pride in their work, and it makes me sad.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:09:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mosspink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820388</link>	
		<description>Amazing links, jonson. Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:57:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ethnomethodologist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820456</link>	
		<description>He&apos;s MAKING something out of PAPER. He isn&apos;t DESTROYING a&lt;em&gt;nything&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:19:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Malor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820503</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t think you&apos;re going to be reading those books anymore.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:25:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: oddman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820520</link>	
		<description>Why would you do that to a book?

It&apos;s monstrous.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:02:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820561</link>	
		<description>Y&apos;all are nuts.  Do you also love cheap 70&apos;s paperbacks?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:13:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820567</link>	
		<description>Wait, don&apos;t answer that.  I don&apos;t want to know.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:34:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maurice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820701</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d love to see what this guy would do with a copy of the Codex Seraphinianus.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:11:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shohn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820737</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve heard of deconstruction, but this is ridiculous.

Seriously, I think this is fantastic.  I used to have a tendency.   toward book-worship, but have gotten over it.  Obviously there are antique and rare books that shouldn&apos;t be messed with, but by and large books are tools and aren&apos;t worth any more idolatry than a hammer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:01:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shohn</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820773</link>	
		<description>Mind boggling work. Wow. What a thrill. Thanks jonson.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:32:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820787</link>	
		<description>PS Looking at his work more thoroughly, they aren&apos;t merely astonishing, they&apos;re so beautiful! Haven&apos;t enjoyed something so intensely in a long time. 

Just called the gallery that represents his work here in NYC:

Hayde&#233; Rovirosa Gallery
529 W 20th St. Floor 7, New York, NY 10011, T. 212 462 2600

They&apos;re located between 10th and 11th Avenues. They sold most of the pieces of his but still have a few left. I&apos;m going there to have a look.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:55:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: phoque</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820797</link>	
		<description>jonson, you ... well ... goddamn ... understand there is an unwritten &quot;expletive COOL&quot; voiced by me for seemingly every post you make ... and this is no exception.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 08:19:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dlugoczaj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820860</link>	
		<description>&quot;Those are old books he&apos;s killing&quot;

I feel more like it&apos;s resurrecting than killing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:18:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1820935</link>	
		<description>Thanks, phoque!  I appreciate the compliment.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:24:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonson</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: carsonb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64325/Brian-Dettmer-Carves-Books#1821157</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carabarer.com/gallery2.php&quot;&gt;Cara Barer&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;My photographs are primarily a documentation of a physical evolution. I have changed a common object into sculpture in a state of flux.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:55:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>carsonb</dc:creator>
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