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Start Your Own News Web Site The Knight News Challenge is awarding up to $5 million for innovative news web site ideas that "transform community news." The contest is sponsored by the Knight Foundation, the folks originally behind Knight Ridder news.
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let's see, $5 million divided by 58043 is ...
posted by Quietgal at 12:41 PM on September 1, 2007
let's see, $5 million divided by 58043 is ...
posted by Quietgal at 12:41 PM on September 1, 2007
Oh, now they want help.
And I assume they expect us to believe that they'll actually listen this time, too?
posted by loquacious at 1:16 PM on September 1, 2007
And I assume they expect us to believe that they'll actually listen this time, too?
posted by loquacious at 1:16 PM on September 1, 2007
The previously funded projects don't exactly inspire confidence in their ability to recognize potential.
posted by scottreynen at 1:26 PM on September 1, 2007
posted by scottreynen at 1:26 PM on September 1, 2007
Newspapers used to be the glue that held communities together.
...at least until big conglomerates came along and bought up all the indies or forced them out of business.
The news they printed helped people identify problems and work together to find solutions.
...as long as corporate sponsers weren't ever identified as the source of the problem.
TECHNOLOGY is changing everything.
Has changed everything. You're very, very late to the party. We invited you years ago, and told us to get lost.
Most of us use the internet, cell phones and other gadgets to find out what we want to know.
Because it's faster, cheaper, easier, more detailed - and you've destroyed a great deal of trust by being beholden to your sponsers first, your viewers second and truth last of all.
Although technology connects us to the world, it leaves us disconnected from those in our geographic community.
This is an unsupported claim. What the hell are you on about? There's all kinds of local, geographic connection opportunities available online. Try Craigslist. I actually have real world, geographically local friends I've met just by meeting up to exchange free stuff.
We want to help people use technology to find out what they want to know and what they need to know to improve their lives.
No, you don't. You want to prevent your own irrelevancy and protect your income stream. It's why you're willing to gamble 5 million USD on it. You - the press/print/daily newspaper reporting world - of all people had an opportunity to do this. A huge, grand opportunity. You were early adopters of modems, of the FAX, of digital still cameras. And you fucking blew it.
We want to bring people together in the real world through technology.
You want to bring people and advertisers togther. People are more or less doing just fine without you. I want you to stop killing trees, grinding them up and printing Macy's ads on them.
Help make this happen.
Go choke on an overinflated lede.
Do you have a big idea?
You should take that 5 million and go build yourself a time machine. At this late point in the game its probably the only thing that will save you. You could go back in time and get on the internet early and often and learn how everyone else learned - by making mistakes. You could kill off less newspapers, buy less independents and promote a richer, more diverse press environment rather than killing off most of the gene pool with the financial and intellectual bleach you dumped in it.
Accomplish most of these things (with or without a time machine) and we'll talk. Until then, I wouldn't throw you a soggy paper-mache life ring.
posted by loquacious at 1:41 PM on September 1, 2007 [7 favorites]
...at least until big conglomerates came along and bought up all the indies or forced them out of business.
The news they printed helped people identify problems and work together to find solutions.
...as long as corporate sponsers weren't ever identified as the source of the problem.
TECHNOLOGY is changing everything.
Has changed everything. You're very, very late to the party. We invited you years ago, and told us to get lost.
Most of us use the internet, cell phones and other gadgets to find out what we want to know.
Because it's faster, cheaper, easier, more detailed - and you've destroyed a great deal of trust by being beholden to your sponsers first, your viewers second and truth last of all.
Although technology connects us to the world, it leaves us disconnected from those in our geographic community.
This is an unsupported claim. What the hell are you on about? There's all kinds of local, geographic connection opportunities available online. Try Craigslist. I actually have real world, geographically local friends I've met just by meeting up to exchange free stuff.
We want to help people use technology to find out what they want to know and what they need to know to improve their lives.
No, you don't. You want to prevent your own irrelevancy and protect your income stream. It's why you're willing to gamble 5 million USD on it. You - the press/print/daily newspaper reporting world - of all people had an opportunity to do this. A huge, grand opportunity. You were early adopters of modems, of the FAX, of digital still cameras. And you fucking blew it.
We want to bring people together in the real world through technology.
You want to bring people and advertisers togther. People are more or less doing just fine without you. I want you to stop killing trees, grinding them up and printing Macy's ads on them.
Help make this happen.
Go choke on an overinflated lede.
Do you have a big idea?
You should take that 5 million and go build yourself a time machine. At this late point in the game its probably the only thing that will save you. You could go back in time and get on the internet early and often and learn how everyone else learned - by making mistakes. You could kill off less newspapers, buy less independents and promote a richer, more diverse press environment rather than killing off most of the gene pool with the financial and intellectual bleach you dumped in it.
Accomplish most of these things (with or without a time machine) and we'll talk. Until then, I wouldn't throw you a soggy paper-mache life ring.
posted by loquacious at 1:41 PM on September 1, 2007 [7 favorites]
You sound like you're pissed off that the football players have crashed your chess team party loquacious.
posted by srboisvert at 2:52 PM on September 1, 2007
posted by srboisvert at 2:52 PM on September 1, 2007
let's see, $5 million divided by 58043 is ... $86.14
on the other hand,
$5 million x 58043 is ... $290,215,000,000
posted by R. Mutt at 2:56 PM on September 1, 2007
on the other hand,
$5 million x 58043 is ... $290,215,000,000
posted by R. Mutt at 2:56 PM on September 1, 2007
You sound like you're pissed off that the football players have crashed your chess team party loquacious.
If being annoyed by blithering idiots who have had all the answers more or less handed to them multiple times metaphorically equates to "football players have crashed your chess team party", then, yes.
Do I get bonus points if I played football and chess in HS?
posted by loquacious at 3:21 PM on September 1, 2007
If being annoyed by blithering idiots who have had all the answers more or less handed to them multiple times metaphorically equates to "football players have crashed your chess team party", then, yes.
Do I get bonus points if I played football and chess in HS?
posted by loquacious at 3:21 PM on September 1, 2007
Only if you played them simultaneously.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 3:25 PM on September 1, 2007
posted by Kirth Gerson at 3:25 PM on September 1, 2007
loquacious: Either you misquoted "TECHNOLOGY is changing everything.", or someone is making some judicious edits on the FAQ. It now reads "Technology has changed everything."
posted by niles at 3:58 PM on September 1, 2007
posted by niles at 3:58 PM on September 1, 2007
Only if you played them simultaneously.
It was neither, actually. I was in, err, the RPG club and the school paper. I was too nerdy for drama.
posted by loquacious at 4:05 PM on September 1, 2007
It was neither, actually. I was in, err, the RPG club and the school paper. I was too nerdy for drama.
posted by loquacious at 4:05 PM on September 1, 2007
Niles, it still says "is" on my end, but it being a Flash object I can't really tell if my force-refresh is real or not. I suppose I could go find the object in my cache, delete it and reload, but I'm not.
posted by loquacious at 4:14 PM on September 1, 2007
posted by loquacious at 4:14 PM on September 1, 2007
loq is looking at this, niles is looking at the faq
posted by MetaMonkey at 8:06 PM on September 1, 2007
posted by MetaMonkey at 8:06 PM on September 1, 2007
We want to bring people together in the real world through technology.
You want to bring people and advertisers togther. People are more or less doing just fine without you. I want you to stop killing trees, grinding them up and printing Macy's ads on them.
Remember this is the Knight Foundation - it's a group that focuses on the advancement of journalism.
Newspaper publishers (not journalists) are the ones who kill the trees and protect revenue streams.
posted by bugmuncher at 10:09 PM on September 1, 2007
You want to bring people and advertisers togther. People are more or less doing just fine without you. I want you to stop killing trees, grinding them up and printing Macy's ads on them.
Remember this is the Knight Foundation - it's a group that focuses on the advancement of journalism.
Newspaper publishers (not journalists) are the ones who kill the trees and protect revenue streams.
posted by bugmuncher at 10:09 PM on September 1, 2007
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posted by Kirth Gerson at 12:36 PM on September 1, 2007