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	<title>Comments on: Strangelove&apos;s Doomsday: fiction meets facts</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:03:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Strangelove&apos;s Doomsday: fiction meets facts</title>
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		<description>Dr. Strangelove&apos;s Doomsday device may be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2173108&quot;&gt;more fact than fiction.&lt;/a&gt;  We&apos;ve had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.07/doomsday_pr.html&quot;&gt;doomsday stories&lt;/a&gt; here &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/26621/Paging-Chicken-Little&quot;&gt;before&lt;/a&gt;, but what if dead hand control of nuclear devices is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cdi.org/blair/hair-trigger-dangers.cfm&quot;&gt;real&lt;/a&gt;?  Perhaps live-hand control is better.  You could always &lt;a href=&quot;http://everybody-dies.com/&quot;&gt;try your hand &lt;/a&gt;at a nuclear apocalypse.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:32:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>craven_morhead</dc:creator>		<category>apocolypse</category>		<category>defcon</category>		<category>doomsday</category>		<category>strangelove</category>		<category>nuclearwar</category>		<category>endoftheworld</category>
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		<title>By: Henry C. Mabuse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822294</link>	
		<description>&quot;too many humans.. we need... a nuclear waaaaaaaaaaar&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:03:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry C. Mabuse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: psmealey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822295</link>	
		<description>On the dance flooooooor!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:04:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StickyCarpet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822297</link>	
		<description>Didn&apos;t it come out some time ago that all those launch codes on the the nuclear missiles were set to 000000, out of fear someone would bungle the input during an emergency?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:05:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>StickyCarpet</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: signal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822299</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;all those launch codes on the the nuclear missiles were set to 000000&lt;/em&gt;

So you&apos;re saying that Diebold was the contractor?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:06:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>signal</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: goodnewsfortheinsane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822311</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;On the dance flooooooor!&lt;/em&gt;

I&apos;m pretty sure you mean &quot;at the gay bar, gay bar, &lt;em&gt;gay bar&lt;/em&gt;&quot;.

(And yeah, DEFCON still rocks.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:14:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Goofyy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822320</link>	
		<description>Oh, thank you so much for posting this. It makes me feel like a kid again! It&apos;s like running in to an old friend from grade school.  Global Thermonuclear Warfare, how I miss thy sweet threat.

It seems like forever since I heard the sweet wail of an air-raid siren test. The test of the warning that the world was about to end. Trumpet of Death!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:22:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: craven_morhead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822321</link>	
		<description>&quot;What&apos;s the combination?&quot;
&quot;1-2-3-4-5&quot;
&quot;1-2-3-4-5?&quot;
&quot;1-2-3-4-5&quot;
&quot;That&apos;s amazing!  That&apos;s the same combination I have on my luggage!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:23:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>craven_morhead</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: slimepuppy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822339</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment&quot;&gt;Kinetic Bombardment&lt;/a&gt; for the win.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:50:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Citizen Premier</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822343</link>	
		<description>Everybody get down!  Get up!  Get down!  Get up for the get down!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:54:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Citizen Premier</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Citizen Premier</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822346</link>	
		<description>Alternatively, 
&quot;The only thing we have to fear is &lt;strike through&gt;fear itself&lt;/strike&gt; NUKULAR WEAPONS!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:57:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Citizen Premier</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Eideteker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822368</link>	
		<description>This is not a chawade. Do you understand me?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:21:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eideteker</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Eideteker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822370</link>	
		<description>(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrONIb9gQ-k&quot;&gt;Music video&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnSihiBB-pE&quot;&gt;Inspiration&lt;/a&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:25:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goodnewsfortheinsane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822396</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve always kind of wondered how an electromagnetic pulse strike and a dead hand mechanism would interact.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:54:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: craven_morhead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822398</link>	
		<description>They&apos;d get mad at each other.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:55:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>craven_morhead</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: geos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822480</link>	
		<description>and then fall in love, in the kookiest romance of the season...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:44:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: furiousxgeorge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822492</link>	
		<description> Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you keep it a secret! Why didn&apos;t you tell the world, EH?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:53:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822500</link>	
		<description>Saudi Arabia supposedly has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://hnn.us/articles/11802.html&quot;&gt;doomsday&lt;/a&gt; plan as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:57:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Relay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822514</link>	
		<description>I got it right away Eideteker.

Anyway, how odd ... this article was waiting for me in my inbox this morning, sent by a friend ... what a fun day off I&apos;m going to have.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:08:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Relay</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sindark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822533</link>	
		<description>That DEFCON game is very unrealistic precisely because a real nuclear war would not be very interesting to play out. With dozens of missiles each on subs that are virtually impossible to find and no effective missile defences, any large scale exchange would obliterate both sides, even before secondary effects like nuclear winter set in.

See also:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=2829&quot;&gt;Apocalypse Soon&lt;/a&gt;
By Robert S. McNamara</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:36:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: craven_morhead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822561</link>	
		<description>Well, Defcon presupposes a missile defense, ala Star Wars / Bush&apos;s failed programs.  With that in place, the idea of a continent surviving the initial attacks is at least plausible.  Nuclear winter is still no ball of happiness, but when everybody runs out of nukes, the game is over.  

Also, note that the tagline of the game is &quot;everybody dies.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:17:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lodurr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822609</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Why didn&apos;t you tell the world, EH?&lt;/em&gt;

He was planning a big Labor Day surprise, but someone had to go ahead and spill the beans.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:20:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: edgeways</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822654</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Boom goes London and boom Paree&apos;
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We&apos;ll set everybody free
You&apos;ll wear a Japanese kimono
And there&apos;ll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let&apos;s drop the big one now
Let&apos;s drop the big one now&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:39:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pompomtom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1822963</link>	
		<description>So this is it? We&apos;re all going to die?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:35:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reggie Digest</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1823282</link>	
		<description>Yippee!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:46:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Reggie Digest</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kirkaracha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/64377/Strangeloves-Doomsday-fiction-meets-facts#1823339</link>	
		<description>&quot;Mr. President, I&apos;m not saying we wouldn&apos;t get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:46:07 -0800</pubDate>
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